Dunno, I've looked for old results and haven't found them. I've got USTS Denver from 85, but that's about it.

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Dude, you should have received the official results postcard from Tri-Fed 8-12 weeks after the race. Are you saying you didn't keep yours?!?

Hey - I was in that race as well. Love to see those results for lore's sake.

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I did that race and may have the results booklet. PM me with your name and I will try to remember to look tonight.

Are you sure you are not talking about the Stroh's Chicago Tri? That's the one that sticks out in my memory as having the coldest swim. Maybe that was 1989. The water was 60 degrees and I too did not have a wetsuit. We started at Oak Street beach and finished at Ohio Street beach. Could not put my face in the water for about 3 minutes. Brrrr Bought my first wetsuit after that race. An orange and blue sleeveless BodyGlove.

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Brian M Block, DOB 1968, so I was all of 20 yrs old then. Wow I'm an old MF

Analyze my screen name and you may not feel so old.

I did that race in 1990 and for the results they sent me this lame letter with my time, the top 10 or so in my AG, and the top 10 OA, and that's it. No results booklet (or I lost it, but unlikely as I'm a pack rat on the race stuff). No idea if they did results differently in 1988. Timing company was some outfit called Columbia Timing in San Jose, CA. Maybe you can find them?

The gear advances since then are great, but the single best improvement for the sport is not having to wait 6-8 weeks to get full results in the effing mail!!

Sorry, Brian. I have race results booklets for the Chicago Bud Light for 1986 and 1989 but only a postcard for 1988. I also have race result booklets for the 1988, 1989 and 1990 Chicago Sun-Times triathlons if anyone else wants to take a stroll down tri memory lane.

Hey. There is a 20-year old guy from Atlanta Ga with your name who did the 1988 Sun-Times. Is that you? If so, you were smokin' on the bike - 23.1 average. BTW - If that was you, I beat your young butt!

did that race in 1990 and for the results they sent me this lame letter with my time, the top 10 or so in my AG, and the top 10 OA, and that's it. No results booklet (or I lost it, but unlikely as I'm a pack rat on the race stuff).

I did the race in 1987. I have the results "booklet" they sent me. It has pros, top 10 finishers in all age groups and then a complete list of my age group (30-34 that year). I would guess that the OP would need someone in his age group to respond if 1988 was the same, unless he finished in the money.

Most interesting that year, a young relative unknown Brooks Clark was the first pro beating Scott Molina by a minute and a half (1:48:22 to 1:49:58). Still some pretty quick times. Our own dear beloved leader Slowman finished 30th with apparently a bit of a death march on the run. It was extremely hot that day on the run, at least by the time I was running.

MPB1950 - How very funny a coincidence. I am bib number 1950 this weekend at IMOO, and my full initials are MPB. We should swap screen names for a few days.

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That might be me. I was from Atlanta then since my folks were there, even though I was in Ann Arbor during the school year. I was a USCF racer then so the bike splits were good, but run and swim times sucked. Was the Sun times race in August? I remember driving up to Chicago before going back to school in the fall. Send me the results, I may claim them as mine.

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chicago sun-times triathlon August 28, 1988


Brian Block, Atlanta, Ga

Overall: 684
Div: 119/246
swim: 31:48
Bike: 104:28
Run: 49:26
T1: 7:14
T2: 3:10
Time: 2:36:06

I did the race in 1984 and still have the results booklet. Molina in 1st, Tinley in 3rd for the men. The Puntous sisters in 1st and 2nd, Jule Moss in 4th for the women. A 22 year-old Tom Demerly also did it that year.

Anyone have the results from 1985?

"MPB1950 - How very funny a coincidence. I am bib number 1950 this weekend at IMOO, and my full initials are MPB. We should swap screen names for a few days."


This is surely a sign from God that you will be on the podium. Have a great race.

Anyone have the results from 1985?
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Here you go, but only the top 10. I dont remember ever getting a booklet of complete results, but of course I didn't need one since I always got top 10...(-;

And here is the top 5 from 83..It is the original longer distance of course, and all the rest of the series from that year..

Would love to see the results from the Sun Times tri - it must have been 89 or 90. Ken Dawson - I was a high-school swimmer and I seem to remember my swim being in the 17 min range and just collapsing in the run.

Vaseline makes for a messy transition, body does not breathe on the bike (hard to sweat), but I also used it at one one the first Tir,s in the Milwaukee area (Lake Michigan, Grant Park), after that bought a pale blue bodyglove.
When the water was to cold to swim at a Tri at Bradford beach, Milw, it became a duathlon, and that was when I gave up swimming in Lake Michigan.
BTW check the number in my handle and you can guess how old I am!

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What was the deal with the Puntous sisters and 3 ties, a fourth just one second off?

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They were pretty much side by side every race i ever saw them.

Does anyone have a poster from the Chicago 1986 race?

It is amazing how fast you guys were 27 years ago.

It is absolutely amazing today given all the technological 'advancements' over the last Quarter Century.

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Dude, you should have received the official results postcard from Tri-Fed 8-12 weeks after the race. Are you saying you didn't keep yours?!?

Best laugh I've had all day....I remember those damn things!

And umm no, didn't save mine, either...

Lake Shore Drive made for some FAST bike splits! Love that draft from traffic in the adjacent lanes...

Lake Shore Drive made for some FAST bike splits! Love that draft from traffic in the adjacent lanes...

This ^^^^ is why the main forum pisses me off: Say just one thing about admiring great athletic feats and you get a reply hinting at some form of impropriety.

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No disrespect intended at all. Those guys were WAY fast even by today's measures. But, I was there in 1989 and went minutes faster on the bike than I had gone at any of the 7 other Olympic distance races that same year. While I would LOVE to count that as a bike PR, I don't feel right doing so.

Cool.

Be careful of using any word that is or starts with word the 'Draft....' around here.........

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That's because all those advancements don't mean all THAT much, IMHO...

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What was the deal with the Puntous sisters and 3 ties, a fourth just one second off?

Back in their day thay were so dominant at most races they did, and so close in abilities, that they would just stroll across finish lines together for a mutual win. Some races would try and crowbar a difference in there, thus the 1 second race, but they meant to tie. It really did not matter as they had only one checking account and all their money went in there. They were very close twins and we shared the same sports agent, and they even lived next door to me for over a year, so i really got to know them. Only in hawaii would then split up, and even then it was usually a flat tire or something like that.

Funny story, one year one of them flatted early in the bike ride while the other rode on. Took around 5 minutes or so to change it, and for the next 8+ hours they rode and ran almost the exact same pace to the finish, only seperated by the flat time. And i was told at the time, it was the longest that they had ever been apart in their lives, that 8 hours racing solo and out of sight. There were a lot of grumblings that they worked together and such, but i only ever saw them racing clean, just pacing like everyone else does. That race showed just how close they were in speed.. Very fun and classy girls.

Lake Shore Drive made for some FAST bike splits! Love that draft from traffic in the adjacent lanes...//

That's great that you got a nice draft and all, but don't presume to know what happened in our race back then. From what i remember they closed off the entire 3 lanes i think it was, and we had a clear road the whole way. Those were pretty normal bike splits for us back then on road bikes, usually in the 56 to 58 range on flatter courses. And a lot of the courses were 25 miles too back thn, not 40k. That paticular race was pretty much spot on in all the events too looking back at the times. Don't forget that there are two transitions buried in there too, and i believe they were pretty long back then too, maybe still are..And just to show the swim was on, it was no wetsuit of course, and the guy who won was Charlie Graves. HE was one of the guys we had like Andy Potts is today. I think he went something like a 1;37 200SCY free in college, and he was good in OW for a pool swimmer. So 17 flat is about right for him.

Well that explains it then. Thanks for the clarification Monty. Very cool indeed

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wow there's some really old guys on this thread

What's really cool about this thread is how many people listed in those results are still either competing today (29 years later!) or staying in race shape (monty, dave scott, molina, dean harper, bill leach, etc.)! It makes me feel like an apprentice, having made my first race start in 1987.

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I was there too, and I'll have to dig up my postcard when I get home tonight to make sure but I seem to remember having an awfully good bike leg as well. Too bad I didn't have the run to back it up. something to do with 2 trips down from Milwaukee to deal with a lost goodie (and race#) bag in the 7hrs b4 the race perhaps? or I just sucked. count me in with the "what's a wetsuit for" crowd back then also. the waves bouncing off the wall were not fun.

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Some friends and I got Sean Molina racing again a couple years ago. I'll have to pass this on.

No presumption. I was there in 1989 and all lanes weren't closed then. All folks on the course got the same opportunity for catching a draft from passing cars so it was quite legal and fair. I'm just saying that the times (when I was there) seemed faster than I could ever reproduce before or after. So, since it wasn't me, and I believe that the course was of legitmate length, the draft from the passing cars must have helped. I appreciated it, but I don't feel right counting that as a bike PR.

And I concur with the observer on this thread that noticed there were a lot of old triathletes on here. Unfortunately, I would be one of them...

Today's Chicago race for the Oly is two loops outside The Loop, go north and back to transition. In the late 80's we went north up to the Foster Ave turn-around and then went beyond the transition south past old Meigs Field. Flatter and faster back then. The swim was around the Planetium instead in the harbor which is choppy from all the heats going on. Transitions were longer. Also, us age-groupers knew only to go all out from the start. That helped the speed. Today's there is too much knowledge of how to pace for the entire race. I still have my BudLight race results post card stuffed away somewhere in a box from my first triathlon. My race write-up from 8-3-86 can be found at:

http://blog.tri50states.com/...ries----chicago.aspx

My writing is like my racing but I'm trying to get better.

Ken: It was the 1990 Chicago Sun-Times tri. Your results: Swim: 22:55 - Bike 109: 42 - Run 57:18 - time : 2:38:31 Overall 956 AG 41

I don't know if you remember, but there was one race (either bud light or sun times) where Rob Mackle pummeled Kerry Classen who came out of the water just before him. Strange thing is I don't think he got disqualified.

It was not Kerry, and the guys name just escaped me, i will get it in a minute. He was a little guy that was a great swimmer runner that just did the sport for a few years and disappeared. The deal was that Rob pulled the entire swim with this guy on his feet, and once they were running to T1 he tried to run past Rob. Rob threw out a high elbow and kept the guy from going past for the swim prime, so full contact OW swimming. Not sure where, but there was a photo shot just before the elbow went up and was either in a mag or something..

Andrew Carlson was his name, just had to stop thinking about it for a second..

Hi Elvis,

By chance since you have the 1984 Budlight Chicago Triathlon could you please look up my race results?

Martin Malone
Chicago
Age 27

Big thanks..

Being a Chicago native this thread is very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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I remember the swim was right alongside the harbor walk and we got a lot of waves washing back against us. But is was cool seeing all the people walking along and cheering.

I used to live in the suburbs of Chicago & did this race when they called it Mr's T's triathlon. Mr's T's was one of the sponser's and the post race meal was Mr's T's Perogies. One year I did it there was a drowning. The victim was about my age and Monday morning, all my co-workers came into my office to see if it was me.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...tition-heart-disease

Do you have an approximate time? The 1179 men are listed by time. No age breakdown. The fastes time, Scott Molina, 1:54:02. The slowest time 4:32.
Give me a ballpark time and I'll look it up this weekend.

Ah the good old days... I did the Bud Light Tri in Connecticut, maybe 1990? It was right after a huge rain and the CT river was so nasty due to storm drains flooding over. Some participants questioned the water quality. Yet we all did not know what the hell we were doing and the race was still on. So we all just shrugged our shoulders and swam.

I remember getting the results in some hotel lobby (or similar), that just consisted of a bunch of 8.5X11 printouts of all 800 or so people only by finish time. Can't remember if they mailed me my results.

Elvis,

Please check anywhere from 2:20 to 2:35. Sorry for the large spread.

Thank you very much.

Martin Malone

I believe that is the race where I met you for the 1st time. Makes me miss dale seeing those results - great guy. I stretched with Joanne Ernst before the race. Epic day - the 1st time the "Big 4" were in the same race I believe. If anyone has the results, check out my transition times :-)!!

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I'm impressed!

But how could you ride that fast without:


- PowerMeters
- Wind tunnels
- Aero cleats
- Electronic shifting
- Disc Brakes
- Personal custom mixed electrolytes
- GP4000 and latex tubes
- Zwift
- Erg. mode on the trainers

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But how could you ride that fast without:


- PowerMeters
- Wind tunnels
- Aero cleats
- Electronic shifting
- Disc Brakes
- Personal custom mixed electrolytes
- GP4000 and latex tubes
- Zwift
- Erg. mode on the trainers


You forgot the most obvious difference of all!! We were riding road bikes without aero bars!!!

Impressive!

Did you guys just HTFU a little more than today?

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Martin,
They have your age as 25.
Total place 708
Div place 189
Swim 24:37
Swim place 201
T1 4:18
T1 place 784
Bike 1:23:25
Bike place 923
T2 1:48
T2 place 527
Run 54:53
Run place 786
Total 2:49:01

Thank you for taking the time to look at this Elvis. The results were much higher then I recall. Is it possible that was when the race was 2K/40K/15K? I was born 7/22/57 so depending on when the race took place that would be results from either 1982 or 1983. If that was indeed the 1.5K/40K/10K then I had a better time in 2009..Wow..

Thanks again..

Well this race was on 7/22/84 (your birthday). Pre-computers, I would guess they just mistyped your age.
They specifically list the distances as 1.5k/40k/10k.
I remember it was hot that day. I cramped up badly on the bike and had to walk part of the run. I also put a heavy bag of bike tools behind the seat and even had a heavy bike chain (you know in case the bike broke down and I needed to lock the bike up on the course some where). What an idiot. But I was 20 at the time.

Yea those were the days..lol. My bike was 10 speed Schwin Varsity.... Heck in 2009 I did 2:48. Must me getting better with age..lol

Have a a nice evening..and thank you again..

Marty