+1

I think that would probably be a reference to not being held to answer for the same crime twice. Slightly out of context, but I think you get the point.

How about maybe he is old and just wants to retire? He has been racing for +18 years and is almost 39 years old. Eventually you have to call it quits.

Maybe this comment belongs in the LR, but why is our government spending money investigating this?

Power say it aint so....

My point exactly, read posts from her and quotes and again I say it was quite amusing and made me laugh...15 min of fame is way over...

Either way Big George is still a great rider, team leader, and only wish we would have seen him climb to the top step and raise the cobble at Roubaix....

Bob Roll was interviewed on NBCsports a little while ago. He said he was unaware of anything new aside from the 2009-2010 allegations that to him seem a little odd.

Exactly. Waste of money. Guess guys like AlanShearer, Power13, bobloblaw were upset that Lance blew past them on the bike and didn't say "On your left!!"

Ultimately a bunch of bum hurt people at USADA are upset and want revenge against Lance.

Just read Tinley's new article on Kenny Souza. Refreshing and well done. I have a bumper sticker on my VW Thing: "Eddie Would Go" I would be willing to put on one more: "Souza didn't dope".

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It's also about the money in sports. How many people in the US watch cycling? Maybe 0.5%? How much of the USADA budget is spent on catching and investigating cyclists?

How many people watch the NFL? Maybe 30%? How much is spent on monitoring NFL players.

http://articles.latimes.com/...ports-drugs-20111202

"The head of the World Anti-Doping Agency chided the NFL Players Assn. on Thursday for not giving a green light to testing players for human growth hormone."

"The current policy of the NFL suspends players without pay who test positive for banned substances as it has since 1989: four games for the first offense (a quarter of the regular season), eight games for a second offense (half of the regular season), and 12 months for a third offense"

Can you imagine if 8 years after winning a Super Bowl they came back to a top player in the NFL and said we're taking away your victor and your Super Bowl ring?

What a joke.

Why is USADA filing charges in June 2012 for 2009 test results anomalies? Either they're incompetent or have an axe to grind.

i understand that...however, lets just say usada has evidence from his TDF championships...how does that effect him now?? i.e. if somebody is proven to have used ped's several years ago, but don't test positive now...what can be done? I honestly don't know. is there a statute of limitations??

i also find it ironic that this is coming out 2 weeks before ironman france.

+10000. Well said sir.

Since football is a team sport, the team has to give back their rings to the other team.

That is the important question.

Or they had to wait until another Federal investigation was completed. Not as exciting as your incompetent or axe theories....

Says who?

Found on Letsrun.

Here's the party:

http://online.wsj.com/...rongcharging0613.pdf

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speedySTATES

At the end of this video the espn expert says "right now he has ONLY been banned by World Triathlon".

http://espn.go.com/...mally-charged-doping

Seems like they jumped the gun on this...

EDIT: He has not even been banned from cycling yet, they say pending charges he could be. WTC really jumped the gun, or was pressured to...

You're obviously not very bright... Nobody is "proven" not guilty (or "found innocent," as others will say). The prosecution failed to prove its case to the satisfaction of the judge/jury, that is all. Not being proven guilty does not equal being innocent. I hope that's not too confusing for you.

And USADA is not criminal court anyway. How they establish/enforce rules of fair competition is not the same thing as a criminal case where a defendant may face jail time, among other things. It's not that different than if a soccer club or the NBA suspended a player for violating its league rules. The judicial system has no dog in the fight.

But if you insist on the whole "innocent until proven guilty" mantra... try domestic violence out for size. If there's suspicion that he's beating her up, the authorities usually intervene on her behalf ASAP, even though the Court's gears may take weeks to turn out a verdict. The Sandusky example someone else made is even better... if there's a suspected pedophile at your kids school, are you OK with him still walking the halls all the way until there's a trial in which he's found guilty, or should he be removed from the school pending further investigation?

Could Lance sue the WTC to prevent the ban until after a verdict is given?

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"That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth... hell you can even be fifth." - Reese Bobby, Taladega nights

I didn't realize Lance was still road racing? Was he a favorite for TdF? (pink font)

maybe Lance should run for president

http://news.yahoo.com/...-says-202418229.html

This is sport's version of a Rorschach test.

Two questions, what is USDA's relationship with WADA (if any) and unless there is some new "evidence" how can this be investigated again(double jeopardy)?