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Re: Thoughts on Canyon Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2 [spectrum5825]
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Re: Thoughts on Canyon Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2 [JTNY]
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HTS on bicycles is 11%.
However the prices quoted are with or without VAT for Europe? VAT can add a huge chunk.
However the prices quoted are with or without VAT for Europe? VAT can add a huge chunk.
Re: Thoughts on Canyon Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2 [JTNY]
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JTNY wrote:
A few weeks back I had spoke to a rep at Canyon North America and was told this bike would be about $4,500 However today I saw on their site that it is $5,000 or 10% higher. For some reason at $4,500 i was ready and willing to buy it but at at $5,000 it makes me stop and pause about whether this is worth getting or not. Note, the additional $500 could have gone towards a new powermeter.
Also what else can i get out there for $4.5K? The Felt IA10 looks nice but of course with the Canyon you're getting carbon wheels. I currently own a P2 and would like to upgrade but the additional $500 just makes it somewhat of a harder sell considering I can't ride or see how it looks IRL.
I have no experience with the Premier Tactical, but 5500$ for Di2, Powermeter, wheels, travel case, and a fit at ERO sounds like a better bang for the buck. The Canyon was good but not great in the Tour magazine testing and I think that was the one with the integrated front brake.
Re: Thoughts on Canyon Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2 [UpandDown]
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UpandDown wrote:
not sure what Canyon USA is thinking when setting their prices. Some models go from just a little bit more than the European prices to WAY more than the europe prices. Taking in consideration current exchange rates AND the fact that European prices include an average of 21% sales tax and USA prices are shown before tax Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2. Same DT Swiss wheels and components:
Europe price €4499/$5299 (€3554/$4186 before tax. )
US price $4999.
delta: $813 before tax or 19.5% premium
Speedmax CF 8.0. Same Mavic Wheels and components:
Europe price €2999/$3532 (€2369/$2790 before tax)
US price $3999
delta: $1209 or 43% premium
same seems to apply to the rest of their line. With those prices the value proposition is null. Disappointed to say the least.
I don’t mean this in a nasty way, but this is every day life for us in the uk and Europe. It makes a nice change the shoe is on the other foot for once.
For example. An Apple Watch in the US is $299. In the UK it’s, wait for it, £299. The same for garmin etc etc. We pay a “premium” for US products. If Canyon has got its pricing wrong then the market will decide. It’s not comparing apples to apples, though, if looking at Europe to US currency rates. They’re different markets with different pricing structures.
Re: Thoughts on Canyon Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2 [spectrum5825]
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spectrum5825 wrote:
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The difference is , if i buy an IA from a LBS, I get the full sales/service/support/fitting etc that I don't get from Canyon.Exactly...at that price point I can get say an IA or a P3 from my LBS as well, and get it properly fitted and setup by a professional the first time, not to mention a place that I know will take care of my future needs. Not to say I wont end up going the route of the speedmax, since it does include a set of carbon wheels. Most in this price point don't AFAIK.
Some LBS will also give a free fit along with a purchase, that's like 3/5 of the delta, two tune ups and you have the full delta. Figured they'd partner with velofix or something to provide that stuff, maybe someways down the road
808 > NYC > PDX > YVR
2024 Races: Taupo
Re: Thoughts on Canyon Speedmax CF 8.0 Di2 [ilsapproach]
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ilsapproach wrote:
HTS on bicycles is 11%. However the prices quoted are with or without VAT for Europe? VAT can add a huge chunk.
On my previous post I broke it down with and without taxes. The publish price in Europe includes vat the one in the US does not. Unsure about Mexico but if it should say right below the price. Shipping fees to Mexico are. Quite a bit higher though
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UpandDown wrote:
I don’t mean this in a nasty way, but this is every day life for us in the uk and Europe. It makes a nice change the shoe is on the other foot for once.
For example. An Apple Watch in the US is $299. In the UK it’s, wait for it, £299. The same for garmin etc etc. We pay a “premium” for US products. If Canyon has got its pricing wrong then the market will decide. It’s not comparing apples to apples, though, if looking at Europe to US currency rates. They’re different markets with different pricing structures.
No offense taken. I am quite familiar with us/uk/us prices as, while I live in California Im. Originally from Spain via UK family. You guys get short changed in most electronics. It's not uncommon to see the same number (ie 299) regardless if it's Usd, Euros or GBP. In cycling though, you guys get better deals as MAF is not enforced