I'm just going out to Costco for some popcorn....

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Long Chile was a silly place.

Don't bother. Nobody wants to touch this one for some reason.

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This is too bad. I wonder, had Sara Gross lived in the early 1900s in the United States, if she would have been against women's suffrage. I suspect she would have.

It's a worthless debate that's been hashed out before on ST.

Perhaps Sara's bio (from her website) might provide people with some insight as to her motivations:

Born:
March 26th 1976 in Sarnia Ontario Canada

Grew Up:
Kitchener, Ontario and Dubai, United Arab Emirates

Education:
Dollar Academy, Scotland (Highschool) Queens University, Canada (BA and MA) The University of Edinburgh (PhD) In June 2006, Sara graduated from Edinburgh University with a PhD in Ancient History and Religion. Sara's dissertation was in the field of women's history. She analyzed the methodology of women's history, specifically in relation to women in the first two centuries. Sara is passionate about the need to make sure that women figure as often and as highly as men on the pages of our history textbooks.

Sporting History:
Growing up in Canada Sara played a number of team sports, her favorite being soccer (or football for the British crowd). At one stage she even played on 3 teams at once, practicing every morning and evening with matches up to five times a week. After moving to the Middle East with her family in 1991, Sara took up individual sports including running and swimming. Sara swam competitively in University but claims she was never very fast. She was also a recreational runner for 10 years before taking up triathlon. After spectating at the K-town Tri in Kingston Ontario in 1999, Sara bought a bike and started training for her first triathlon.

I like Sara. While I might not agree with everything she says or writes, I see what she's trying to do and can applaud her for that.

However, like you said, I fall into the mental gymnastics on this one. This seems to go completely against character. Like John Rocker signing up with the Mets.

*edit* Bio does make some sense into this... still awkward in my book.

Are you trying to say that some of our debates on here are worthwhile?

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Here's her take. Makes me wonder what she thinks of OJ Simpson.


http://www.witsup.com/...e-13-team-heres-why/

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My bad. They are all worthless. Continue. :-)

Or bill Cosby. ......

I'm assuming this statement is in reference to Macca? I wasn't thinking about that. Just that generally speaking, women rights aren't a priority in the Middle East - which kinda goes against what Sara is preaching.

That article is awesome. I don't even know where to start with the moral relativism but this really tickled me:

"In the end I can’t avoid what I know is right because individuals might not understand what I’m trying to do."

Paraphrasing - if you don't understand my reasons you'require idiots. Sub-text "they offered me a deal I couldn't say no to"

To parephrase Clive Stafford Smith "I explained to them the meaning of equality and they explained to me the power of cash"

LOL. Let's not mention that the "justice system" in Bahrain is controlled by "His Highness's" family... I'm sure it can be counted on to fairly and blindly pursue justice when the alleged criminal is a member of the royal family. To put so much passion into the 50Q and characterizing it as a terrible injustice to women, but to so easily dismiss the issues of women's rights in Bahrain when they want to give you a paycheck requires some really deep sand to bury your head in. Or just outright hypocrisy.

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Gah. I was really trying to buy into her argument. I was ready to be convinced by a change-from-within vs. isolate-and-shame approach. She's been well-spoken in the past. But I cringe at "leave justice to the justice system." Many of the highest-ranking members of the Bahraini justice system are members of the royal family, with predictable results in matters related to the royal family. The state fundamentally lacks the concept of an independent judiciary. And that's ignoring the whole Sharia side of the courts, which is a whole other popcorn issue.

Well said, pretty much sums up my thoughts. Not that she'd care, but I lost a lot of respect for Sara here.

My opinion is this article has a very weird vibe. In the end I feel like it's a press release posing as an article trying to make some sort of conflict/stand/news angle on what really is just a sound bite or a tweet.

What if you're pro Bahrain 13 and anti TriEqual?

I was pretty sold by her argument that there are lots of really bad thing that have happened in history and lots that are happening right now, really it is the West's fault, and she can not solve it, so lets just ignore it and talk about triathlon.

Were you sold by her argument that the court has not found HRH guilty so we should just ignore it?

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The other thing that I'm not sure has been explicitly pointed out is related to this quote:


"My contract is a little different to the other athletes’ in that it has a longer list of media requirements. I still get to race as part of the team but there is less emphasis on performance. Instead, I will focus some of my energy on writing and other media work "


It seem logical that they want to improve their reputation when it comes to human rights (heck that is the whole reason they named the team Bahrain 13 in the first place) so they say, "Hey! if we can get the president of TriEqual to join the team and get her to talk a lot about the great work we are doing for women in Bahrain all the haters will have a hard time arguing against her!"

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Lost all respect for Gross. Maybe I'm being a bit simplistic here but it seems she threw away her values when it comes the TriEqual stuff in order to make a buck to fund her career.

That's great and all but the hypocrisy is stunning. She's going to really regret this decision when all is said and done.

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I doubt it.

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This just in:

Sue Aqilla

As a co-founder of TriEqual I resigned on 1/12/16. I believe equality is a human rights issue. You can't advocate for one without the other.

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