Attilamonster wrote:
Let me guess, the wheel builder referenced in the other forum works for Tokyowheel and will only have glowing reviews? You will never believe me but I want to know that I have not been duped. Can I trust any of the "wheel builder's" impressions or data? I hope that I can but I will never know with 100 % certainty. How foolish will I feel if this wheel builder surmises these to be re-branded crap? Immensely but you won't believe me.. By posting my very first reply I was actually trying to help Tokyowheel gain traction in the market but seems I may be contributing to damaging the brand. Visit the other forum or visit my youtube channel and look at the data. I see variations and the graphs demonstrate this but I just didn't know if this was significant or seen in other manufacturers. I tried to measure my ZIPP 202 Firecrest but the Firecrest shape was difficult to measure with my micrometer. The replicates had a tremendous amount of variation so I did not post the data. I know what you are thinking. This bloke works for them. No I don't, I am just pack fodder who is budget conscience. You guys may be right but my iphone is from China and I bet my Samsung tablet is too. Oh no, my computer is a DELL and I live 15 miles south of the corporate headquarters. What do you bet it is from China? Not everything from China is crap......well the iphone is up for debate. I am 2 pints in and find this entertaining so flame away.
Most of your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense except for the last sentence.
The thread that you reference has a few things in common with this thread:
a) new poster to the forum uses their first post to talk about how great Tokyowheels are
b) all sorts of people accuse them of shilling
c) James Ferrer chimes in with the exact same posts (more or less, didn't compare them word for word) that are in this thread
d) people ask him very specific questions about how his wheels are different from, say, Farsports wheels which are half the cost and he talks about no customs fees, money back guarantee, crash replacement, etc.
I honestly believe that:
a) this post and the original post in the thread you reference:
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/...rchase-316433-3.html are shill posts / guerrilla marketing by Tokyowheels
b) these wheels are made in China and retail from the factory for half the cost. They are re-badged and then sold for twice the price.
There's nothing wrong with rebadging wheels and selling them, there are tons of companies doing just that. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with these wheels (or Farsport wheels) it's the disingenuous marketing that turns me off.