I'd like to see him go after Hellriegel's monumental record at IMC...now THAT is an amazing record.

I agree sub 8:10 on that course is amazing. As good as a low 7:50 in Roth.. Lieto might have ridden faster but to run well on that hilly course afterwards takes a lot of strength.
And didn't he go for a 100+km ride the next day..
SteveMc

I wonder though, does anyone who goes 8:10 at Canada even stand a chance at winning Hawaii 2 months later? Personally, I think anyone who qualifies at Canada should get deferred entry to Kona to the following year. Especially the pros.

I agree but those were the days when Thomas trained and raced himself sick.
SteveMc

"I'd like to see him go after Hellriegel's monumental record at IMC...now THAT is an amazing record. "
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I believe that it is now Chris Lieto's "monumental record at IMC".

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Yes, Hellriegel went 8:09 at IMC 1996 and then backed it up with a second overall 8:06 at Kona including a blazing 2:46 run off a 4:2x bike....so perhaps most athletes don't stand a chance, but when you lose to LVL's 8:04 Kona record, that's as good as it gets

Exactly my point too but I've been told my opinion is bollocks. The facts show that when the going get's tough Macca thrives on it, others melt under the pressure.

To me that's a true champion.

Wow....that I did not know. That's crazy!!
I wonder if he was able to tap into a training regime that REALLY worked for him in those two months or if he just got lucky? Either way, that is impressive .

His approach back then was to "train HHHrd, wery hhard"
Lots of 40plus hour weeks which worked for a time and then.. not
SteveMc

Amazingly enough, he posted a career best 4:16 bike at Roth last year....

M~, there was nothing magic in between IMLP and Kona...actually I believe it was his 7th or 8th ironman in a span of ~18 months (Lanzarote-Roth-Hawaii-NZ?-Lanzarote-Roth-IMC-Hawaii). We can confirm once the xtri.com race database is working...seems a bit flakey right now

Do you mean IMLP or IMC ?
Although it isn't nearly the same, I always feel better when I race myself into shape rather than training myself into shape. ;)
Still, how those guys were able to do that to their bodies is truly beyond my comprehension. My little flabby boy body just couldn't take that abuse!
M~

It's his running that hasn't been great recently. Shame as he really was the Ironman personified. Good news is that he's meant to be fit and strong this year.
SteveMc

Man, you're tough. Normann's first DNF came from flat tires. His second came from a stomach virus. I hardly call that "melting under pressure".

I meant IMC

Got IMLP on the brain eh? ;)

Just looking forward to seeing what Normann can do at IMLP....what will be the final pecking order between Hellriegel, Larsen, Stadler and Bjorn as LP Uberbiker????

That will be exciting. Tell you what, I will give you a split time coming up Papa Bear as to where you are with respect to the Normannator. :)

My goal as always is only to get onto run loop 2 before the first pros finish. 2 years ago I was leaving Mirror Lake drive just as Dr. Tommy and Victor came flying up

I'm talking about the real record...the one where you back it up with an awesome run..CL went fast, but nowhere near the 8.09 of Hellriegel

"I'm talking about the real record...the one where you back it up with an awesome run.."
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Ahhhh...my bad.

i guess I have a hard time imagining Normann pulling off a sub 2:50 run after riding a record/near record bike pace in order to go 8:09.

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I'll be cheering for Michael Gohner...I'm interested to see how he'll stack up against Macca. ...and for the AG's, good luck to Team Free Radicals.

I'll be rooting for the "Prince" (Faris) and the "Combine Driver" (Niclas B.)

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like francois said.... Hellriegal IMC course record is in my opinion the greates ironman performance of the history of the sport. It s simply insane to go this fast on that course.... i really wonder if we will ever see such thing again......


Lieto did put a on a amazing bike split but didnt go anywhere near as fast overall....

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Sorry...I can't resist...

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