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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
Bo's raw time in seconds is incorrect, and I *think* the time itself is faster than you have.

Ken - thanks for the heads up. FWIW - Pretty sure that the raw time is right, but something happened in the conversion (I had a parentheses problem). I got an 11:47 for his raw time - 11 * 60 + 47 = 707.

The conversion factor was what I posted earlier in the thread, a straight YtoM conversion (I think, I let google handle it). But I think this was not right - the "correct" one should be 0.9144.

So, the formula now yields a converted time for him of: 10:46

r.b.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [realAlbertan] [ In reply to ]
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Dude - solid swim! The conversion that I used yield 10:46 (just a straight distance one, no "swim" specific factors in there).

As noted, the straight conversion doesn't give quite the pop of the actual swim converters, but still a fast swim. If any of the other guns who have told me that they will be submitting times this week beats you, we can look at lodging a protest!

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r.b.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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Great swim Steve, for sure cooler water is better for these types of things.. And i think i see why i can stay with you out there in the wide open, i just use my superior run out to get ahead, you use your front end speed to get by me at the 1st buoy, and then i latch onto your 1;13 pace for the back half. And even in this swim where you trounced me, i still had that last 100 to come around you!!! HA!!!

You and Ken really held up the team, looks like a 36;29 for the 3 of us. I wish i had one more crack at it, really feel myself coming around these past weeks. But time to start the X-mas thing, heading to vegas tomorrow for some debauchery and hopefully winning poker..You guys have a great one too, let's do some big stuff after the new year..

And Robert, why don't you use the calculator that i posted up a few posts earlier?? Seems like you are cheating Bo out of several seconds by just converting distance only. I think that they have been around long enough to have worked out any of the bugs, so i would trust their results..
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [monty] [ In reply to ]
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1500m for me today. Nice and easy. Did 6x200 on 4min and a 300cd.
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Monty - the only real obstacle to me is that I want it to be able to be hooked programmatically into the time routine - otherwise I have to track down the times and manually convert them. That said, I have not looked at your post, and so I will check it out and see if the time can be ported.

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r.b.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:

Altitude conversion.. ??

http://www.csi.org/coursealti.aspx

Actually, it seems that I can not get it to do SCM, or rather, the SCM and LCM conversion to yards just yielded the same converted time. I kinda thought that 7 seconds per 100 at that rate of speed was a bit much to convert.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [duffman] [ In reply to ]
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Went something like 1:11, 2:28, 3:45, ... perhaps a 6:23 at 500 but I had completely lost track of time at that point, could barely see out of my foggy goggles, etc. Kept going to perhaps 700-800 but I really wasn't sure where I was at and just bagged it did 100 easy and left.//////////

Hey Duffman, you get a mulligan on that one. It really is not hard to capture your own splits, you just have to know about where you will be at certain points. I know what a 200 time should look like, and then usually check at the 500. And just look at the seconds, because you know the minutes are 6 already. Looks like you locked onto a 1;17 pace after blowing out the 1st 100, if you could have negative split it, we would have been close. I went out at 1;18 pace, but ended up with a 1;16 average by coming home at 1;14 pace.. Not ideal, but the least painful way for me at the moment..

You still have some days left, don't give up!!
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [robertwb] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.csi.org/coursealti.aspx

Works fine for me, not sure what you mean? Just plug in his time, SCM to SCY and hit convert. I get 10;33
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
http://www.csi.org/coursealti.aspx

Works fine for me, not sure what you mean? Just plug in his time, SCM to SCY and hit convert. I get 10;33

Just using the straight conversion at < 3,000 ft asl, the routine converts 11:47 SCM into 10:36.9 . It also converts 11:47 Long Course Meters into the same time. Which makes me think that it might actually be using the LCM conversion for the SCM times -- as I thought it a tad quick, I would expect closer to 6 seconds per 100 for as fast as he is swimming.

r.b.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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About 3:00 PM yesterday, my arms finally realized what they had done and became pretty much useless the rest of the day.

This morning, 200 yards felt great, then it started getting sluggish, so I thought short repeats/long rests were the ticket.

5x100 alt s/k left when I felt like it
10x50@:45 :29 - :34
5x100 alt s/k left when I felt like it
2x[25f/50bk/75br/100fr]@:10RI frees were 1:05/:06

2000 sc yardages

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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Finally got a little love from my training. A glimmer of speed and pacing starts to show. 1,000 for time tonight, unless I feel really crappy, then I will postpone till tomorrow (the beauty of a postal).

WARMUP
1 X 600 PULL/R-ARM/L-ARM/SWIM 1.2.2.1
8 X 50 PULL ODD - BREATHE EV 2 ON RIGHT
EVEN - BREATHE EV. 2 ON LEFT
ON 1:00
10 X 25 ODD - LONG STROKE, EVEN - HIGH TURNOVER
AMRAN
MAIN SET
9 X 100 DESC. 1-3 ON 1:40/1:35/1:40
DRILL DOWN
1 X 50 EASY SWIM OUT
8 X 50 KICK w/FINS, DESC. 1-4 ON :55
1 X 200 EASY 25 DRILL / 25 BACKSTROKE
8 X 25 SWIM, BREATHE EVERY 7TH
1 X 100 EASY SWIM
Total: 3,100

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [robertwb] [ In reply to ]
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WU: 4x{50fr/25bkk}
6x{25fr/25bk}
300 pull
200 kick
10x{25bk/25br}
Main: 4x50 sprint on 1:30 {:29,:29,:31,:32}
2x{ 2x100, 200 pull, 2x100, 200 fast}
CD: 800 kwf

4200 scy. Felt dead after the first two 50 sprints :(
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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Getting ready to head out of town, so did a quick one in the SCM pool. Man i wish my tt was today, after two days out of the water i felt great, oh well..

3x(300/200/100/2x50IM order/100IM kick) 5;00/3;30/2;00/1;00/1;00/2;30 straight through last set pull

4;38/4;22/4;01/2;57/2;47/2;33/1;25/1;19/1;11 fly's 41/ back's 46's/ brst's 47's
8x50@1;00, 3 and 6 fly hard-- free's 43 to 40, flys 39/38
2800SCM
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Ha! yeah, water was much cooler this morning. If I had only known it'd be this way, would have TT'd this AM. Oh well, still happy with my time, but I think there is more to be had. I miscounted and did an extra 50 and pushed it really hard. He went ahead and timed that 50 - :28.57. So, I wasn't all that deflated. Don't think I'll be trying again for this challenge, though.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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700 wu
200 pull mod
2x50 fast
2x100 build
rest
8x100 all out (30')

200cd

Good swim overall. Started out blazing fast (for me at least.)

200 pull- 3:28
50x2- 38's!!
100x2 build- 1:40's

8x100 all out- 1:37, 1:40, 1:41, 1:41, 1:43, 1:46, 1:46, 1:44

Still working on pacing. I think if I had started out more conservatively with the 200, 50's, and build 100's, I could have held 1:40. Great swim for me regardless.
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [coloradoveto] [ In reply to ]
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400 warmup
50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 200 on 1:30 per 100m
4x200@ 3:00
4x400@ 6:00
12x 25 kick

3900 scm
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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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HalfSpeed wrote:
About 3:00 PM yesterday, my arms finally realized what they had done and became pretty much useless the rest of the day.

Ha. Did my 1000TT 7pm on Saturday. 8am on Sunday did 50x100 averaging on 1:30/100. This morning:

12/19:

900 w/u

200 on 2:45
2x100 on 1:30
200 on 2:50
2x100 on 1:25
200 on 2:55
2x100 on 1:20
200 on 3:00
4x50 on 1:00 all out
100 ez

3x(100IM on 1:45, 2x50 free on 1:00)

3200scy

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Today's session:

W/U: 4x (150 Free, 75 FlyBackBreast, 25 1 breath)

Main: 2 x (Free first go around, Pull on second): 400, 4x50 Fly/Free, 300, 3x 50 Back/Free, 200, 2x50 Breast/Free, 100, 1x50 Free)

Then 8x125 (odd 100k, 25 underwater no breath, evens 25 Fly, 100 swim).

5000scy

Ouch.



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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [CPT Chaos] [ In reply to ]
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CPT Chaos wrote:
Today's session:

W/U: 4x (150 Free, 75 FlyBackBreast, 25 1 breath)

Main: 2 x (Free first go around, Pull on second): 400, 4x50 Fly/Free, 300, 3x 50 Back/Free, 200, 2x50 Breast/Free, 100, 1x50 Free)

Then 8x125 (odd 100k, 25 underwater no breath, evens 25 Fly, 100 swim).

5000scy

Ouch.

That looks familiar. I did this one at lunch but we only did 4 x 125 w/fins at the end.

Main: 400s (5:01, 4:45 pull), 50s on 0:50 (coming in for all strokes around 0:40), 300s don't remember, 200s (2:25, 2:21 pull), 100s don't remember

4500 scy

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [duffman] [ In reply to ]
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Are you in ATX??



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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [CPT Chaos] [ In reply to ]
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yep, though I'm moving next week... :(

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
Ha. Did my 1000TT 7pm on Saturday. 8am on Sunday did 50x100 averaging on 1:30/100

I pushed the channel button on the remote maybe 50 times, last night. All right-handed. Tonight I'll work the left hand.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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HalfSpeed wrote:
Soooo... I did my second, and final 1000TT...

The week off swimming taper worked!
11:51.66

Hey man - did you enter this into the results page? I did not see it come up and want to make sure that "Old Guys Rule" gets their due. Hoping for a little "taper magic" myself tonight (or tomorrow if I feel crappy) - but since I have nothing to taper off of, I am not expecting any "wierd" feelings, only "intense" ones

Regards,
r.b.

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [robertwb] [ In reply to ]
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Hey man - did you enter this into the results page?

I did! Maybe it didn't take. Did I need to reenter all my info again? I did, or is there another way to add a better time?

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I just submitted again and it took. Thanks!!

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Re: December (Ice) Fish(ing) - post swims here [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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3500 lcm.

Main set was 6x350....50 for time/300 "recovery", then 100for time/250, 150/200, 200/150, 250/100, 300/50.
All on 1:00/50.

Rest of the distance was warm up and cooldown.
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