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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [bad929]
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Cause no way those guys were on anything....
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [sdmike]
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Difference is, they didnt get caught.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [jackmott]
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Want to see my slick new CamelBak IV Hydration system? Imagine all the time I am going to save by never needing to get a water bottle!
(yes, this has been done - RAAM 03 or 04 if I recall right).
Fuck it - let em all dope.
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(yes, this has been done - RAAM 03 or 04 if I recall right).
Fuck it - let em all dope.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [fartleker]
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Even Macca chimed in on this via twitter.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [Fastyellow]
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Agreed.
In addition, if they assay at this sensitivity, the amount of false positives increases dramatically.
I would want to know how many more riders were showing up positive.
Hard to believe he was the only one who showed up positive. All depending who they tested and if that particular procedure was used for all racers.
I do believe in the "contamination" excuse. But I am more inclined to believe that it may be from a masking agent or supplement.
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In addition, if they assay at this sensitivity, the amount of false positives increases dramatically.
I would want to know how many more riders were showing up positive.
Hard to believe he was the only one who showed up positive. All depending who they tested and if that particular procedure was used for all racers.
I do believe in the "contamination" excuse. But I am more inclined to believe that it may be from a masking agent or supplement.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [ms30594]
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It's already here:
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [de-tri-mental]
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I'm not an expert so this might be a stupid question? if it was contaminated food, wouldn't some body else within the team tested positive too? (if anybody else was randomly tested, of course) Vino would be somebody the French/UCI/WADA or whoever could be interested in testing more than any of AC's helpers. He won a stage so I assume Vino was tested.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [OC Ben]
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From memory they don't test everyone on the same team on the same day every day. The top three plus some randomly selected riders always get tested every day, then they pick out a few teams each day and test them. So if his story about contamination were true and his team got selected for testing that day, everyone would be positive.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [sdmike]
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Make an example out of him.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [Epiclesis]
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Always thought that el Cheatador was doping, now here is the proof.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [fartleker]
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has anyone looked at the effectiveness of this drug? its really not that good... and the evidence isnt there.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [mccormas]
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Your title and the lack of information in your post remind me of sensationalist media outlets.
Summary of the story:
Small amounts detected. Passed multiple other tests. Claimed it is due to food contamination.
More details to come.
Sounds to me like it will all be cleared up.
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It must be from meat consumed in the USA(steroid legal). Steroids are banned from use in Europe for imported meats. At least the ones I am familiar with , beef and lamb.
The USA meat is full of steroids though so surprised you guys aren't growing tits. Guess your beef farmers lobby group is pretty strong. Alot of the steroids used for food are the female ones. Say a 10% protein increase from an injection is a a good ROI.
Probably the same idea Contador's managers had. 10% gain will win it.
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Summary of the story:
Small amounts detected. Passed multiple other tests. Claimed it is due to food contamination.
More details to come.
Sounds to me like it will all be cleared up.
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It must be from meat consumed in the USA(steroid legal). Steroids are banned from use in Europe for imported meats. At least the ones I am familiar with , beef and lamb.
The USA meat is full of steroids though so surprised you guys aren't growing tits. Guess your beef farmers lobby group is pretty strong. Alot of the steroids used for food are the female ones. Say a 10% protein increase from an injection is a a good ROI.
Probably the same idea Contador's managers had. 10% gain will win it.
G.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [triathlonshots]
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Cleared or "Covered"....
They are all doping...Lance was, they all are and were...all but Greg L....
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They are all doping...Lance was, they all are and were...all but Greg L....
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [mccormas]
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Actually, you're probably wrong. Likely, he's toast!
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [johnbrain]
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Most teams have chefs, but again most don't actually cook all the time (differs rom team to team). They check the kitchen for hygiene, and only if it is bad do they step in. Otherwise they may just cook some special dishes that certain riders like. At any rate, anybody who has ever been in a team hotel will know it would be incredibly easy to contaminate somebody's food. Teams have coolboxes with food and drinks sitting out in the hallways, some of the food is in buffets, etc. This has always amazed me, especially since the consequences are so high. Not at all saying this is what happened here, I have no idea, but it's a scary profession to be in.
As for double standards for Li vs Contador, this may be due more to the greatly differing concentrations of Clenbuterol found than anything else.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [Devlin]
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He was notified on 8/24 of the results
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [ttram]
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from now on I'm eating nothing but lean pork.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [Gandalf]
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Can't he just give the UCI a check like the texan uniballer? What's 100 000 dollars corrected for inflation?
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [ms30594]
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dating yourself? So you're typing with the other hand then?
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [fartleker]
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Yep, but the UCI seem to want to let him away with it.
The UCI made a statement saying the amount detected was only 50 picograms/millilitre, or 400x less than the required limit of detection
Why they would assist in defending Alberto is a little odd to me, despite the fact that they suspended Team Radioshack's Fuyu Li for 2 years after detecting 50-100 picograms/ml... Odd!
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The UCI made a statement saying the amount detected was only 50 picograms/millilitre, or 400x less than the required limit of detection
Why they would assist in defending Alberto is a little odd to me, despite the fact that they suspended Team Radioshack's Fuyu Li for 2 years after detecting 50-100 picograms/ml... Odd!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/...fter-doping-positive
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [gildasd]
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That's about $14.37 in today's money. Even less in Euros.
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [Fleck]
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Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [fartleker]
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Don't worry saxo can hire Ricardo Rico and diluca, now that would be awesome.
Re: Contador- TdF positive for Clenbuterol [Fix]
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according to Bike Snob NYC Landis' postive for testosterone was due to brushing against Cippolinis bare arm
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lacticturkey: Sep 30, 10 4:33
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