So Alistair doesn't help his little brother and he's a "dick" but then he helps his little brother and he's "going soft." You can't win on Slowtwitch. :)

I'm glad somebody else took this away. I've felt this since watching yesterday but couldn't figure out if it were my grumpy side.

Murray made an arse of himself yet again. He sees THE WHOLE situation unfold in front of him, then CHOOSES to celebrate his mate benefiting from someone elses demise, WHILST they are laid out semi-conscious in front of him.

Proper cock sucker move in my book.

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Yes, I thought Murray was a bit of a DB before this season. His actions this year have confirmed it beyond all doubt.

That was awesome !!! Great move from alistair!!

I agree Murray epitomises everything that is distasteful in Sport, on the other hand Alistair Brownlee shows there are more important things than winning and money.

Oh, he's a dick alright. Did you see that BBC interview from yesterday? He is going to hold this over Jonny forever!

Still awesome to watch, and I'm an AB fan, but like many of the greats he is fundamentally a dick.

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Genetics load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.

I think you're mistaking being a dick with the very British character trait of taking the mick out of your friends or family. It's just what we do, there's no malice in it (in fact quite the opposite)

Totally. There is a bit of a disconnect with some of the American commentators on here and understanding how the various ways in which the nature of close British friendships can manifest. Often you mock those that are closest to you the most.

I think Yorkshire-ness goes over American heads a bit! My mother's side of the family are from that part of the world (Leeds!) and when I see Jonny and Alistair interact, it is totally what I grew up seeing and hearing with that side of the family!

It cuts both ways. I'm a huge fan of the American series The Wire (which is 100 times better than anything the UK could produce of a similar nature) but the aggressive way people talk with each other is totally alien to me, and I'm sure some of the subtleties of what is really meant go way over my head... Cultural differences!

Murray stopped short of the line for Mola and I think he was ready to let Mola finish ahead of him if Murray had been in 5th place rather than 4th place right before finishing. As far as AB, afterward he did say he was just jogging the run and dissed little brother for not pacing correctly.

Congratulations on the award for Slowtwitch's stupidest post of 2016!

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Just jogging and still in a position to win if he had wanted it. Incredible.

I couldn't agree more.

I used to be a Murray fan, but his antics this year have totally turned me off, between the tantrum leading to the DQ, his post race comments about the Brits at the Olympics (he went back and retracted and deleted his tweet), to his finish line celebrations in Cozumel.

I've never been the biggest Mola fan (maybe because he doesn't race the same way as the Killer B's), but he is always very gracious and respectful, whereas Murray when asked about Jonny in his post race interview completely ignored what happened and just talked about Mola if I recall correctly.

I'm fine with being happy for your training mate, but even Mola seemed more concerned, and he just won his first world championship.

Murray has lost more than a few fans I reckon...

Eh, I bet he's a dick - even for a Yorkshireman. You don't see Jonny taking the piss nearly as much. Alistair is just that classic Michael Jordan/ Lance/ etc. alpha dogs.

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They have polar opposite personalities, I've seen a few documentaries on them and AB has always been the more outspoken of the two. But like the UK, Australia has a similar sense of humor, i certainly didn't take it as a dick comment, it's just what we say to brothers and mates.

I honestly don't think most Americans get brittish humor and i still don't think you do and never will because you haven't been brought up with the culture.


We mercilessly take the piss out of people we like or dislike basically. And ourselves. This is very important. Our brashness and swagger is laden with equal portions of self-deprecation. This is our license to hand it out.
This can sometimes be perceived as nasty if the recipients aren’t used to it. It isn’t. It’s play fighting. It’s almost a sign of affection if we like you, and ego bursting if we don’t. You just have to know which one it is.
http://time.com/3720218/difference-between-american-british-humour/

Alistair, Michael and Lance do not belong in the same sentence.

Alistair and Michael - yes, the other one - not so much. He belongs in the discussion with Sammy Sosa.

Not necessarily accurate.. the series win is worth about $80000 where as the race win is worth only about $30000. If Mola hadn't got 5th place Johnee would have been up for that money. This was all about the series win and the series money, not just the grand final race.

Not Sosa - Barry Bonds is the better fit. Still not perfect though because Lance was driven to win, whereas Barry was driven to fill up a stat sheet.

I remain comfortable with my three.

As for those Pommies talking cultural awareness, I think I'm aware enough of how guys around the world communicate via insults. It is a universal language! I also know a dickish older brother/ alpha male when I see one. This isn't some secret - I'd guess more athletes are intimidated by AB than love him, and he is fine with that. Maccer was commenting on this back in his Olympic bid for London. He commented on how Ali was the boss, how he'd walk up and cut to the front of lines (queues for the Poms) just because he could.

Pure tough man. Obsessive. Grudge holder. Winner. Dick. Like Michael and Lance.

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We can agree to disagree on the cheaters.

Jordan, Ali are great. Bonds was great before cheating. Still bummed he cheated, he would have easily been a HOF'er without cheating.

Lance had to cheat to win, Sosa had to cheat to get a lot of home runs - sadly baseball's individual "winning" (he already had a lot of strikeouts) - both were cheating for the big paycheck.

I agree with the rest of your discussion. Another good comparison for Ali would be the young Tiger Woods.

I like the Tiger idea too. Of course there are plenty of folks who suspect that Tiger might have been doping as well - rapid physique changes followed by all the back trouble as his connective tissue couldn't keep up with the muscle growth...

It isn't like Lance was nothing before drugs. His relative success in HS swimming and cross country and of course his years as "The Kid" on the tri scene are well documented. I'm not one to absolve him for cheating because others were as well, but I assume anyone would have had to cheat to win. He was driven to train hard and dope hard.

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Agreed. British and Australians (and Kiwis) are far closer in style of humour. Hence why Americans sometimes struggle with it.

But its strange then that TV comedy from wherever can work regardless of where in the world you are.