Yes, it's the coupe. Obviously, most "sports cars" are two doors, and don't provide a lot of access to the back seat, making it hard to work with kids, unless you don't really care about having them in a safety seat.

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In that case I'll include my E30 M3 as a sports car. It has one of the best track pedigrees you can find.

I am the only on in my neighborhood who has a sports though.

"What is a sports car?" In the postwar era, a "sports car" was any car that seated two, had a soft top, and could be used for competition. Thus, the Sports Car Club of America. An MG-TC was a sports car, as was an XK-120 or a Jowett Jupiter.
That same car with a permanent hardtop was considered a "Grand Tourer", meaning it would be appropriate for a young man to drive around Europe in varying weather conditions. Thus, the MGB-GT is an MGB sports car upgraded to Grand Tourer configuration.
Therefore most cars are Grand Touring cars, even cars like the GT3 RS or even RSR since they aren't open top. One could even argue a 911 Turbo S Cabriolet is too big to be a 'real' sports car.
Now, does that leave just the Miata? Or is it too underpowered?
Sporty vs High Performance? If you just look at performance, then things like the Cayenne Turbo S or the Lamborghini SUV have ridiculous performance. Is there a weight limit?
Much like the definition of "Sport", I think "Sports Car" can apply to a lot of cars, or technically, just a teeny tiny subset. Is calling a Mustang or Camaro a sports car, ok? Sure, what if it's the 4 or 6 cylinder version? Should we restrict it to just the GT500, and LT1 versions?

two door would be a colossal PITA

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Personally, I think the sport vs. GT distinction today is more about "size" than the configuration of the top. Rag top vs. coupe doesn't really bring much to the distinction anymore. There just aren't many rag-tops anymore. I certainly think the MX-5 is a sports car, but I don't think its the only one. Its more about the size, weight, suspension, and drive-train configuration in my mind. I do NOT think its about "power" or power-weight. Or, if it is about power-to-weight, the MX-5 sets the minimum standard.

Even the 27 year old 1.6L Miata with 120-ish HP is fast enough on a track to scare the shit out of most people. I've given plenty of rides...I can't go more than about 7/10ths with a passenger, even then they are "hanging on for dear life".

I used to have an Acura RSX when I first moved to Canada, my daughter was 1 at the time. Wife and I were separated, so it was just me in the car most of the time. So long as there isn't someone in the front passenger seat, it wasn't that bad getting her in and out. rear facing car seat had a base that clipped in. and front facing wasn't bad getting her in and out of.

coupe is more of an issue when they are older, or if you are routinely carrying more than 2 people.

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My wife had a Celica GTS when our kid was born. The rear seat had that latch system. How much space does a baby need?

Not much space but from what I remember when my kids were rear facing. But getting them out would be a hassle in a 2 door from what I recall. Having to move a seat up, reaching in and unhooking from base and then angling to get it out. Then again I haven't had a 2 door since the early '90s.

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Think of it as crossfit yoga reps.

For me it was the weight and twisting in to a low car

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No one is mistaking a Bentley or RR GT for a sports car. Rag top or not

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Not sure how old your kids are but it’s not the size of the baby it’s the size of the seat. Most of the rear facing seats are monsters now and they take up a bunch of room. The one we have in the Grand Cherokee is big enough that the front seat can’t move all the way back.

I have a 1997 328i BMW convertible I like to drive some. It’s old but pretty damn sporty.

It worked in 2000 ;)

With the way my wife drives, yes.

Is a Tesla a sports car? Because that's the I don't need this but I want it car up here.

There is no question in my mind that the stage of life has a lot to do with it. I didn't marry until I was 39, so I went through tons of sports cars and 'sporty' cars. I was active in several car clubs including the SCCA, Porsche Club, Corvette Club, etc. Did lots of track events, autocrosses, and concours. By the time I was in my 30's, I was into higher end cars and ended up with a Ferrari F355. It was equipped with a full cage, fire system five point harnesses, etc. I went to the National Ferrari meet at Road Atlanta and flogged the car for three days on a high speed track. On the last day of the meet, I was in one of the unlimited speed sessions and there was a pretty serious crash right in front of me. The session was black flagged and I made my way back to the pits and pulled into my parking spot. As I pulled in, my wife was standing in front of me with my one year old son in her arms. I sat for a moment thinking about the fact that only minutes before I had been going 165mph right behind a guy that was almost killed passing me going into a chicane. Just for fun. This wasn't a sanctioned race, it was just a Ferrari Club event.

I put the car up for sale about six months later and sold it for $5,000 more than I had paid for it. I stopped doing track events, but I continued to buy lots of fast cars. As the years went by, they got bigger and slower. Now, I am driving an Alpina B7. Hardly a 'sports car', that's for sure. Regardless, I enjoy sports cars and all sorts of others for the engineering and sophistication of design as much as anything. I gave my wife a Mini Cooper with the John Cooper Works package 12 years ago and we STILL have that car. Wife loves it. When I gave it to her, my daughter was about 4 or 5 at the time and said that was the car she was going to drive when she got older. We laughed at the thought back then since we knew the car would be long gone by then. However, I spent the last six months teaching her to drive a stick in it, and it looks like she is going to get her wish! Maybe another sports car nut is being born...

Greg

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Yes. It's based on the Lotus Elise!


Tesla S? Nope
Tesla X? No way

That's cause sports cars don't have back seats ;)

I guess I'm 0 for 4.

Good weather? I live in New England
No kids? Nope, a 10 year old.
Lots of money? Nope. I'm not upper middle or upper class.
Bad with money? Nope. I'm not working class.

I own 2 sports cars (Lotus Europa S2 and a Miata). I daily a hot hatch (Fiesta ST).

Is the FiST the fastest of the 3? By far. Is it's a sports car? Nope.

Me, pushing 60 and no kids, pets, or spouse. And the top is down 10 months of the year.[/img]

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