Where did you see this at? That would be an interesting study.

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I recently deleted a segment on my Strava that goes through two stop lights. First one is a three way light where there is a fork in the road and cars are coming on your right, the next stop part of the segment takes you through a left turn

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All I Wanted Was A Pepsi, Just One Pepsi

Team Zoot, Team Zoot Mid-Atlantic

A stop sign or a traffic signal? there's a big difference.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/bicyclist-us-guilty-vehicular-homicide/story?id=19759724


Quick google found this. Not sure it's the exact one I saw but it's along the same lines

Unfortunately there a many more like it

http://www.ibtimes.com/...ing-accident-1695078

I can't distinguish whether you're talking about the ones who risk their reputations and/or lives.......or the ones who care.

"Thanks Ralph for your positive support. 1. That is over a period of years. 2. if you train all day every day you won't do well. 3. I'll bet I am faster than you."


Not sure what kind of support you are looking for. Being obsessed with inconsequential Strava records seems pretty odd. But I will concede that you are faster than me. More importantly though, my dad can beat up your dad.

To make sure everyone is safe, Strava should have a speed limit database that autoflags rides if exceeded. It could then auto route this info to police stations so tickets can be handed out accordingly.

Stop Lights, Traffic Signals whatever floats your boat

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Nooooooo! I was entering an intersection that I knew was the beginning of a Strava segment and I had a green light plus a 20 mph tailwind. I knew if I hit the gas I would have a chance of getting the KOM. It was a two lane road each way and as I crossed the intersection there was a car to my left and the speed limit was 45 mph. There was a slight downhill for the first third of the segment (2% grade) and I actually passed the car on my left. I glanced over and could see the passenger look to his left (looking at the speedometer was my guess) and he mentioned something to the driver then looked at me and gave me a thumbs up. I don't ride with a bike computer (had a 920XT on my wrist) but Strava had me at hitting 48 mph so technically I was speeding. That was a bit of fun and traffic was light (just me and that other car).

That segment was 0.8 or 0.9 miles long and I missed the KOM by 1 second.

The only Strava segments I have flagged were ones where I know they were driving in their car and had forgotten to stop their GPS devices.

I have seen segments flagged in the area as "dangerous" and usually there's a stop sign at the beginning or end.

I woudn't... but I know some that do... someone around me seems to flag any segment that has an intersection in it One is a driveway at the top of a hill, not sure why "they" flagged that one. I wish you could see "who" flags these things, I'd like to know why that one was flagged.

I digress, I only flag cheaters that motorpace, the segment itself is a personal choice thing.... the people that set them up and those that race them.

Strava was once cool, then all the flagging of segments and KOMs started. What is safe for one might not feel safe for others. Maybe he had friend at the stop sign showing him there were no cars, who cares? maybe his iPhone GPS had some massive hiccup.

I stoped using Strava and paying for it long time ago, totally useless app for people with too much time. All this captain kudos BS is pathetic, wow look I rode Epic 10km today, I'm exhausted and so fit now, can't move my legs... OMG you rode 40km it impossible I will flag your ride...

There is some phase of encouragement when you are new to it, and that is great, but if one would stop and think it is useless app using big data god knows how and in what way.

Lets take two scenarios here in my home town:

One regular segment called Four Way Stop or Not:

https://www.strava.com/segments/8369815


To do well on this segment you need to blow though a flat stop sign. The stop sign is often quiet outside of rush hour. But a fast segment is not possible without breaking the traffic code.


This sprint segment Pie Guy to Fat Guy (between two pizza joints):


https://www.strava.com/segments/9530835


The start of this segment requires you to time perfectly the green traffic light. This one invites you take a risk with running a yellow but is less dodgy.


Segments like this (a local club TT which goes through a bunch of 4 ways):


https://www.strava.com/segments/1400794


This invites the same rule breaking but the four ways are manned by volunteers at the weekly TT.


All are suspect. But if you were to flag them all you would be there all day.

I had a KOM that was flagged for starting before a stop light....I did not make the segment or I would have edited it to start after the light.

I like Strava. It's useful for keeping track what my buddies are up to, really convenient for tracking improvement on segments you do commonly (vs. yourself), and can also be fun to compete against other people.

+1

Who cares what your time is on a "segment" that is uncontrolled, subject to technical limitations (GPS), human error (misclassifying data), and human stupidity (blazing through stop signs). Why would I care about how my time compares to others on small strips of terrain that I know can be so easily manipulated? That's what we have races for (well, unless you're Julie Miller). Go fast on a controlled course on race day, that's all that matters.

That said I do like Strava for the social aspect. I do enjoy seeing my friends' workouts as I feel like there is a learning opportunity over time. The segment portion I find useless however, and I know I could beat 99% of the people that have faster "segments" than I do if they showed up to an actual race.

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Strava

GPS isn't accurate enough for that.

Depends on the segment. Extended climbs tend to be pretty legit. For example, take a look at the Mt. Palomar South Grade segment, and every person in the top 10 is a legit climber.

I agree that Strava is not a surrogate for racing. Few enter more actual bike races than I do every year. But I still enjoy Strava. I think some of the "Strava backlash" here is from Type A types who can't handle there being an ordered list of people, and they're not at the top of the ordered list and there's some BS in the list so BURN THE MOTHER DOOOOWN. With Stava you kind of just have to not take it too seriously, and have some fun with it. Save the super serious Type A ego alpha male domination attitude for race day.

All you have to do is flag the segment itself as hazardous. Then the leaderboard won't show up at all for anyone unless they click through a bunch of releases.

Won't have to ever worry about it again.

I do save the "super serious Type A alpha male domination attitude" for race day - that was the whole point of my post.

I just think it's annoying when people brag about their times on imaginary courses under imaginary conditions. That's more "Type A" in my mind and speaks to a fragile ego.

I'm sure some of the segments are legit, not arguing that they're all bogus.

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Strava

I find it hilarious when people say stuff like this. Talk is so funny.

If your ego were so intact you'd completely ignore it all anyway and wouldn't be bothered to even bring it up.

Yet your'e on here decrying it and making comments about how you could beat 99% of people that have faster strava segments.

THAT's the fragile ego.

I wasn't referring to you, specifically, there.

*eye roll*

I come in the top 1% in almost every field I race in, whether that's road races, tris or masters swimming. So it would be a good estimate if I actually tried to race imaginary Strava segments. I am just expressing my opinion on the validity of a ranking tool. Take it as you will.

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Strava

Isn't this like "flagging" a Bigfoot story?

Of course you do.

I'll take it as a verbose fragile ego.