One part of me thinks that it's stupid to flag a segment like that because common sense should prevail. Let Darwinism take it's course, because you deserve what you got coming if you purposely blow through a stop sign for Strava glory.

But the other side of me knows the reality is that there are people who take Strava way too seriously, and that it's not just their safety they are putting at risk. An oncoming car may choose to swerve into a ditch. A pedestrian could get killed. Heck, if a bike T-bones a car and launches the cyclist into the driver or passenger window, it could kill a passenger in the car. And then there is simply the horror and guilt a person can feel if they actually killed the cyclist...even if the cyclist is 100% at fault.

Strava is also a poplar tool for tourists, and this could give someone a false sense of security that the road doesn't have a stop sign. Still though, any rider should be responsible for themselves and not use Strava as an excuse.

So I guess yeah, I would flag it...as dumb as that kind of sounds.

Yes I would. Strava segments do lead to people killing themselves and this sounds like a perfect example. It is not the KOM that is the problem it is the segment itself. But Strava probably won't do anything about it. I have flagged hundreds of CRs that were some weekend idiot who records all their bike rides as runs, which is pretty obvious when you see someone who does 60 miles a month of some activity "running" a 3:50 mile. I have asked and asked Strava to automatically recategorize runs as rides if they break a world record. If it really is a weekend warrior who happened to break the 800m world record, so be it, they can change it back.

However, Strava doesn't give a rats ass about runners or triathletes. They care about getting money from the weekend warrior with things like their insurance program (stupid and does not apply to anyone not using a phone to record activities) and their socializing follow others and talk about it direction. Triathletes have asked and asked for multi-sport events. We have asked for challenges where say the swim distance is multiplied by 10, the run 4 and biking 1 to get a triathlon score. And the list goes on of good suggestions ignored like sadly yours will be even though it is a very good suggestion. I really love the Strava community and hate the company.

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Yes, strava wants you to do that as well:

https://www.strava.com/stand-with-us

I think most would have common sense, but it only takes a couple to risk it. One will make it and the other won't be so lucky.

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this post is already too many brain cycles—let alone the effort required to view/flag the ride in strava.

it's strava, not the UCI road champs.

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Maybe I am misinterpreting. I don't think he is worried about someone not being able to get the KOM, but if its a legit dangerous section of road that people should be careful on.

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I have no idea what you are trying to say. It doesn't matter if someone gets killed if it's not in the UCI world championship?

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flagging segments is dumb. ignore it and move along. $.02

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Before this gets too crazy, you have checked if this result was not posted in the course of a race in / through that area where the intersection would clearly be controlled and safe to proceed through blindly.

I live on the street. I am not aware of a race that goes in that direction.

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Some tae-Bing-do using the date, area/Street name, and clever search help words like “race” may provide some interesting results. Also, if there are also close segment leaders on the same date with awesome user handles.

I had flagged it right before starting this thread. As of now, His KOM is removed. He is now third instead of first.

BUT... his third place still has him going through that stop sign at 32 mph. The two guys tied for first are twin pro cyclists. I kinda sorta know them and have ridden with them a few times. They went through the stop sign at 29. Seems like this is a never-ending battle.

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Those are their real names.....

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The whole running Strava thing is crazy. Signed up for an account this summer for the first time (biked the whole summer), and did my first run today in 8 months because of knee surgery and healing time. Looking over my run today I guess I went through a few segments and checked the leader board. Top three times for one segment are guys who did 5-10K's those days at 3:45 per mile pace...and they've been up there for 4 years.

Was looking for a way to flag them through the app but stopped after a few minutes realizing they probably don't care if its been up that long.

AAAANNNNNDDD....


This is probably all about nothing. I just looked at one of my rides and strava has me going through that sign at 28 mph. I have never run that stop sign.

Edit - if there is some sort of averaging going on I guess that explains it.

Given the second fastest guys are at 29 there, and I know them to be very good bike riders, I wonder if the 48mph run was actually running the stop sign.

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Probably need to drink some whiskey or something, you just crossed the line into Strava mob boss.

Lol. I'm gonna light up a $300 cigar and drink a glass of Johnny Blue while sitting at a folding card table in the back room of the office at Mick's Used Bikes and Home Theater Systems.

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Actually if you flag it as being a ride instead of a run, they have reversed those 100% of the time for me and I have flagged stuff like that about a hundred times. They are very good about it when a ride is put up as a run. Go ahead and flag it. But, what they wont' do is take steps to stop this frequent problem from reoccurring.

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Wait...you have flagged about a hundred Strava segments? Damn, you have some spare time on your hands. Imagine that effort put towards training

Thanks Ralph for your positive support. 1. That is over a period of years. 2. if you train all day every day you won't do well. 3. I'll bet I am faster than you.

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I'm confused. Your original post talks about flagging the segment, but subsequent posts indicate that you're only talking about flagging KOM-holder's ride.

If the segment is unsafe, which it sounds like it is, you should actually flag the segment so that people aren't doing stupid shit to win it. Just flagging KOM's ride accomplishes nothing.

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...Except move OP up the leader board. 😀

Personally I don't think there should even be Strava segments for descents, and any competition around descending in my club is strongly discouraged. I love a good fast descent when conditions allow, but safety should always come first and I simply don't think it's a good idea to encourage anybody to take risks beyond their ability to try and get a better segment placing.

Since they do exist, I really wouldn't bother flagging segments for dangerous riding. Doesn't achieve anything. If you always respect the Stop sign then you're clearly not bothered enough about the segment to care about your own placing (which is absolutely the right attitude!) so why worry about who's above you? There will always be some idiot who's going to go too fast, but they're not going to stop because you got their segment flagged, in fact if anything they're likely to go back and have another go to reclaim their KOM. If I see people riding dangerously in person, particularly if their riding is putting others in danger, I generally try to have a word though it's difficult doing so in a way which is actually going to make them think about their riding and not just piss them off. But policing Strava for dangerous riding? Too many to bother about, let it go.

Descent segments are stupid. There are enough random deer on that road to worry about, let alone the known stop sign and cars.
I barely ever let myself get to 40mph descending back into town. Just not enough time to react.

Which is why I use disc brakes :)

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What about getting a mate to stand at the intersection and wave you on if the coast is clear? I've seen some lowlife cyclists do that before to get a KOM on a downhill segment. I've often jumped on the bike intending to go for that elusive KOM that's 5/10s out of reach, only to be thwarted by a red light/sunday driver. I'm not going to run a stop sign at a major intersection and put myself in harms way for a KOM.

Boggles the mind... yet Strava has now encouraged/facilitated/"made this ok" by rewarding the "fastest". Didn't a guy go through a red light and subsequently a windscreen in San Fran trying to best a segment time?

I'll toast their "balls of steel" but at the end of the day if they end up in a wooden box it's darwinism....