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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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“I’m being blamed for the unfortunate events of his life that are a product of his decisions. Not mine,” Ms. Swift said as the jurors — six women and two men — listened intently.

Listening intently to Taylor Swift? That's a first

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Endo wrote:
Crank wrote:
RandMart wrote:


Like her mom said in testimony, something happened just as that pic was taken, you can see it in her face

'Did you really just grab my ass?"


Looks like a drunken ass grab alright, but not the bare ass grab she alleges. The sides of her skirt would be rumpled upwards/pulled back if the back of the skirt had been pulled up for a bare ass grab. I think she exaggerated at the inception of this saga and she is now trapped in her exaggeration. No excuse for the guy's conduct, but she's not being totally honest either.


Something looks photo-shopped in that picture. In the picture the girl in yellow's chest is in front of Taylor...but if you follow that line between them down further, Taylor's skirt is in front of the other girl and its flared out and does not look natural. And it even looks like Taylor's thigh goes behind the other girls jean leg (which would make sense if the other girls upper torso is in front of Taylor). Something is off there. Almost like someone drew in part of her black skirt to be in front of the other girl. Not sure.

Also, look at the gap where here badge is hanging down, where the silver clip is. You see black, between there and the girl in yellow. Based on Taylor's body line, you should be able to see the white billboard behind that space.

Maybe it is just a very weird and awkward position, but I'm thinking something is fishy. That picture has been definitely doctored. And if that portion was doctored, I wonder if the other lines were touched up between Taylor and the DJ.

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Agreed, this smells and looks fake.

I think Swift is copied into this picture. Top to bottom.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Without any witnesses this seems like a classic he said, she said incident so I have no idea how on earth can the trial last 9 days?

I'd like to hear the reasoning by anyone who thinks she would make it up.

Because it's so much more fun to sit in a trial all day talking about some creep grabbing your ass than getting on with her life.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [GrimOopNorth] [ In reply to ]
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“I’m being blamed for the unfortunate events of his life that are a product of his decisions. Not mine,” Ms. Swift said as the jurors — six women and two men — listened intently.

Listening intently to Taylor Swift? That's a first

Not true

I've "listened intently" to her music ... to figure out which boyfriend she was trashing

"Oh, that's a John Mayer clue ... or maybe Orlando Bloom?"

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [zed707] [ In reply to ]
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Funny thing huh

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Endo wrote:
Crank wrote:
RandMart wrote:


Like her mom said in testimony, something happened just as that pic was taken, you can see it in her face

'Did you really just grab my ass?"


Looks like a drunken ass grab alright, but not the bare ass grab she alleges. The sides of her skirt would be rumpled upwards/pulled back if the back of the skirt had been pulled up for a bare ass grab. I think she exaggerated at the inception of this saga and she is now trapped in her exaggeration. No excuse for the guy's conduct, but she's not being totally honest either.


Something looks photo-shopped in that picture. In the picture the girl in yellow's chest is in front of Taylor...but if you follow that line between them down further, Taylor's skirt is in front of the other girl and its flared out and does not look natural. And it even looks like Taylor's thigh goes behind the other girls jean leg (which would make sense if the other girls upper torso is in front of Taylor). Something is off there. Almost like someone drew in part of her black skirt to be in front of the other girl. Not sure.

Also, look at the gap where here badge is hanging down, where the silver clip is. You see black, between there and the girl in yellow. Based on Taylor's body line, you should be able to see the white billboard behind that space.

Maybe it is just a very weird and awkward position, but I'm thinking something is fishy. That picture has been definitely doctored. And if that portion was doctored, I wonder if the other lines were touched up between Taylor and the DJ.

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Or maybe, just maybe, she's pushing herself into the other girl because someone just grabbed her ass?
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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Look at the fingers on his left hand. Kind of odd to have just two fingers in your pocket like that - unless it was a symbol for "the shocker", or whatever that is called.

Maybe those two things are done on purpose so he can joke with his friends about giving her the shocker.

Does nobody else see this????

His grin doesn't look like a "I'm going to smile for the camera", but a "hey guys, I'm giving TS the shocker"
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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rick_pcfl wrote:
Look at the fingers on his left hand. Kind of odd to have just two fingers in your pocket like that - unless it was a symbol for "the shocker", or whatever that is called.

Maybe those two things are done on purpose so he can joke with his friends about giving her the shocker.

Does nobody else see this????

His grin doesn't look like a "I'm going to smile for the camera", but a "hey guys, I'm giving TS the shocker"


Well since that's not the hand symbol for the shocker no I don't see that.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Perseus] [ In reply to ]
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Without any witnesses this seems like a classic he said, she said incident so I have no idea how on earth can the trial last 9 days? It does seem really strange to me that while a stranger has his hand up her skirt and is holding on to her ass she would stand there and smile for a photo. I would think human MALE nature would be to freak out but who knows.

Fixed it for you.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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it is appalling all of the doubters here. no wonder women don't report sexual assault. she has nothing to gain from this -- it is likely a pain in her ass, loses her money, and opens her up to folks here who simply discredit her for what purpose? fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]
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Grant.Reuter wrote:
rick_pcfl wrote:
rick_pcfl wrote:
Look at the fingers on his left hand. Kind of odd to have just two fingers in your pocket like that - unless it was a symbol for "the shocker", or whatever that is called.

Maybe those two things are done on purpose so he can joke with his friends about giving her the shocker.


Does nobody else see this????

His grin doesn't look like a "I'm going to smile for the camera", but a "hey guys, I'm giving TS the shocker"


Well since that's not the hand symbol for the shocker no I don't see that.

Oh. I'm shocked that I got that wrong. Not shocked like she was shocked, but shocked nonetheless.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [wdrhoads] [ In reply to ]
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it is appalling all of the doubters here. no wonder women don't report sexual assault. she has nothing to gain from this -- it is likely a pain in her ass, loses her money, and opens her up to folks here who simply discredit her for what purpose? fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault.

So all women who report sexual assault are supposed to be believed without question?

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [RZ] [ In reply to ]
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Or maybe, just maybe, she's pushing herself into the other girl because someone just grabbed her ass?

Exactly. While the picture does not provide definitive evidence, it absolutely, positively supports Swift's account of the events that transpired.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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So all women who report sexual assault are supposed to be believed without question?


Dude. We're not talking about "all women." Taylor Swift. We're talking about one woman. And there was no criminal sexual assault complaint filed. She merely called him out publicly for (allegedly!) being a douche. The dude sued. She counter-sued.

In this case she appears to have the high ground on credibility. Who's the one with the financial motive? The 2nd-rate shock jock? Or the singer worth around $280M?
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:

So all women who report sexual assault are supposed to be believed without question?


Dude. We're not talking about "all women." Taylor Swift. We're talking about one woman. And there was no criminal sexual assault complaint filed. She merely called him out publicly for (allegedly!) being a douche. The dude sued. She counter-sued.

In this case she appears to have the high ground on credibility. Who's the one with the financial motive? The 2nd-rate shock jock? Or the singer worth around $280M?

I was replying specifically to the post I quoted.andade no mention of this case or my feelings about it whatsoever.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Dude. We're not talking about "all women." Taylor Swift. We're talking about one woman

In fairness to BC, the post he responded to said "fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault."

It didn't specify that the poster was only talking about not mocking or doubting Taylor Swift.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [wdrhoads] [ In reply to ]
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wdrhoads wrote:
it is appalling all of the doubters here. no wonder women don't report sexual assault. she has nothing to gain from this -- it is likely a pain in her ass, loses her money, and opens her up to folks here who simply discredit her for what purpose? fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault.

Oh give me a break. There is nothing wrong or immoral to question someone's accusations of sexual assault. For you to lump doubt in with mocking and blaming is immature.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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ironclm wrote:
Perseus wrote:
Without any witnesses this seems like a classic he said, she said incident so I have no idea how on earth can the trial last 9 days? It does seem really strange to me that while a stranger has his hand up her skirt and is holding on to her ass she would stand there and smile for a photo. I would think human MALE nature would be to freak out but who knows.


Fixed it for you.

Good point.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:

I was replying specifically to the post I quoted.andade no mention of this case or my feelings about it whatsoever.

OK, missed the last sentence. Thought you were responding to the first sentence.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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Too bad she has an image she needs to keep. She seems like she'd be someone who'd deck him if it wasn't for that fact.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [wdrhoads] [ In reply to ]
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wdrhoads wrote:
it is appalling all of the doubters here. no wonder women don't report sexual assault. she has nothing to gain from this -- it is likely a pain in her ass, loses her money, and opens her up to folks here who simply discredit her for what purpose? fucking don't mock, doubt, or cast blame on women who report sexual assault.

On my comments about the picture not looking right, it has no bearing on Swift's claim and was not making any suggestions otherwise to the validity of her story.

For all I know this picture was floated out out on the Internet and picked up by TMZ and is fake and has nothing to do with the actual trial. My comments were only directed at the picture circulating on the Internet and not meant in anyway to cast doubt on her story.

It seems it was used as evidence (I think?), found that out later. But my comments stand about the picture. It looks borked up and I believe it to be doctored. I also believe Taylor was groped.

I have the capacity to believe both of these thing simultaneously, based on the very limited information I have being reported by our trusted Media outlets. Shocker.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]
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Too bad she has an image she needs to keep. She seems like she'd be someone who'd deck him if it wasn't for that fact.

She's decking him with a far more potent weapon than her fist, and she's burnishing her image at the same time.

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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Back in 1978 I was bussing tables at a truck stop, one of truckers did an ass grab. As a guy, I was shocked, but just got away as quick as possible. I did tell others about it so they could be careful around that table. But I did not call the guy out at the time. I can understand how the immediate reaction is not to punch the guy. Maybe if that happened often you would be more prepared and ready to punch. But when caught by surprise that is not necessarily something you think of.
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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i intentionally did not say "don't investigate" .
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Re: “Because my ass is located on the back of my body,” [wdrhoads] [ In reply to ]
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i intentionally did not say "don't investigate" .

Fair, but it's hard not to cast doubt and investigate at the same time. If you do not doubt her allegations, why bother with an investigation at all. If you do not doubt her allegations but investigate anyways, you are essentially saying the man is guilty until proven innocent.

I think sexual assault/harassment allegations should be taken seriously. But it is an area with a shit ton of grey area involved and I believe that you should wade in to it carefully and with a level head, ideally showing no bias toward trusting one party over the other.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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