patf wrote:
Danno wrote:
Crank wrote:
Is there video of the car's driver-side wheels crossing over the five lines? I.e., is there video of the entire car illegally merging from the No. 1 lane into the carpool lane? Because all I've seen is the moment the passenger-side wheels are on the lines, which makes me think the driver drifted to the right in order to create space for the motorcycle on the left, between the car and the wall. Why the driver did that I have no idea, but that's all I see here.
My opinion (not that anyone asked): Both the driver and rider are a**holes who deserve each other and the poor white Escalade(?) driver has all my sympathy in the world for getting caught up in the other two's bullsh*t. How about an eyewitness account?
http://www.latimes.com/...-20170623-story.html FWIW, the eyewitness, who shot the video, says the car was in the HOV lane 150 feet ahead and the motorcycle was in Lane No. 1, when the car came across the divider into Lane No. 1 -- opposite to what I was envisioning, but no less illegal. The video picks up after the initial contact of the car into the motorcycle and a kick from the motorcycle to the car's passenger side. When the video finally gets rolling, the motorcycle has slowed and come around to the other side of the car to kick the driver's side. It still looks like the swerve left is retaliatory to me. I still apportion more responsibility to the driver than to the motorcyclist, but I agree, they are both major dicks.
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It was about 5:45 a.m. Wednesday when Traber was in the passenger seat of his coworkerâs car as they drove to work at a utility company in Burbank. They were headed southbound on the 14 Freeway, and driving in the No. 1 lane, when the man on a Harley Davidson-type motorcycle passed them on the left, riding close to the double-yellow lines that separate the general traffic lanes from the HOV lanes.
About 150 feet ahead was a Nissan sedan driving in the HOV lane, Traber said. Just as the motorcyclist was passing the sedan on the right-hand side, the sedan tried to exit the carpool lane and enter the No. 1 lane. Thatâs when the car bumped the bike.
âIâm sure he didnât see the motorcyclist,â Traber said of the driver. âHe scared the living daylights out of the motorcyclist. He almost went down. That guy can really handle his bike.â
Traber said that after the motorcyclist regained control, he pulled up to the carâs passenger door and began gesturing at the driver. Traber said he appeared to be saying something too, but Traber couldnât hear him. He said he figured the biker was âsaying something like, hey, you almost hit me! Watch out!â
Traber said it looked as though the driver was yelling something back at the biker, and that it didnât help matters, because thatâs when the motorcyclist started kicking the passenger door.
âI said, âWow, man, somethingâs going to happen. I gotta get this,ââ Traber said. âSo I grab my phone and started recording.â
The motorcyclist then swooped behind the sedan, pulled up along the driver side and kicked the car again, Traber said. In a flash, the driver of the sedan swerved hard left and sideswiped the motorcyclist, almost sending him barreling into a concrete freeway divider, he said.
âAs you can see, he lost control after doing that,â Traber said of the driver.
That does not seem to agree with the video I posted. I.e. the car crossed into the HOV and not out of the HOV. Also, just a couple seconds after pushing the driver over he kicked the door.
So was the video altered (didn't look like it.) or did the report get all details of that story wrong. or did the car try to run him over twice, once from each direction crossing the lanes twice.
Your video picks up with the car mostly in the HOV lane on the lines. It's moving to the left, but there's no way to tell if the car is continuing movement from the regular lane into HOV, or if it is merely aborting it's move from HOV to regular lane and thus moving back to the center of the HOV lane.
I also understand from the story that there were two movements by the car into the motorcycle -- one when the cycle was in the non-HOV lane (on the car's right side) and one on the left (right before the car loses control). I also understand that there were two kicks -- one to the passenger side and one to the driver side. Reread the article -- the first swerve (apparently unintentional) and the first kick were not captured on the video, but prompted the cameraman to pull out his phone and start filming. Apparently, the film picks up after the motorcycle swooped behind the car and to its left.
The story seems completely consistent with what we see on the video.
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