What gets me is the rim brake version got/gets so much hype for hiding the front brake out of the wind , which yes made it a pain to adjust and didn't stop well. They spent a lot of marketing hype telling us how great that was to "hide" the front brake and blend it into the fork for aerodynamics. Then a year later they tell me this large "wart" of a brake hung off the front fork has no drag penalty at all.

I'm not saying they are right or wrong engineering wise but it's just doesn't seem like good marketing strategy to say , aero is all that matters, look how hidden every thing is. Then turn around a year later and say yeah but see how cool this is and hidden/aero doesn't matter all that much after all.

I mean as a company you need to have a core value and believe in it or not. They built a wind tunnel. They designed stuff that said aero is all that matters. Now they almost are saying " just kidding". I have no idea but I would guess the rim brake Venge is not selling like they had hoped and they needed something new to see if they could turn that around do they rolled this out there. It's a market that is hard to judge , maybe they are right.

What gets me is the rim brake version got/gets so much hype for hiding the front brake out of the wind , which yes made it a pain to adjust and didn't stop well. They spent a lot of marketing hype telling us how great that was to "hide" the front brake and blend it into the fork for aerodynamics. Then a year later they tell me this large "wart" of a brake hung off the front fork has no drag penalty at all.

I'm not saying they are right or wrong engineering wise but it's just doesn't seem like good marketing strategy to say , aero is all that matters, look how hidden every thing is. Then turn around a year later and say yeah but see how cool this is and hidden/aero doesn't matter all that much after all.

I mean as a company you need to have a core value and believe in it or not. They built a wind tunnel. They designed stuff that said aero is all that matters. Now they almost are saying " just kidding". I have no idea but I would guess the rim brake Venge is not selling like they had hoped and they needed something new to see if they could turn that around do they rolled this out there. It's a market that is hard to judge , maybe they are right.

Isn't their hashtag #AeroisEverything ?

I can't tell if you are calling this Venge Vias thing a jack of all trades bicycle...? It's not.

Sorry to be an "elitist snob"

+1. What I'd really like to see is the following tested (preferably not at the Specialized Spin tunnel)

1. Venge Vias rim brake as is
2. Venge Vias remove the stock rim brake, or you can call it the Venge Vias disc brake with a rim brake fork and no rotor
3. Venge Vias same as number two, but whack a normal rim caliper in the front (just drill the dang thing onto the frame or something)
3. Venge Vias disc as is
4. Venge Vias disc without the rotor and brake caliper, since the disc fork is prob gonna be slightly diff from #2.

And then we will draw our conclusions from that. For now, I'm kinda questioning everything that has ever come out of the so called Win tunnel, especially the tests in which Spesh product has been the direct focus of the test.

With 140mm rotors, my gravel/cx bike doesn't brake any better than my rim braked bikes. I've also heard of people overheating their 140mm rotors on long technical descents.

I'm going to switch to 160mm rotors for cx season. I suspect there will be even more drag at yaw (probably about the same at 0 degrees) but the extra stopping power in CX far outweighs the drag or weight penalty. On a road bike, maybe not.

Roller tend to be:
1. The most universal
2. The lightest
3. The Most portable