Serious question. If abortion is murder, then what do you do about miscarriages? Should there be a funeral? Should women who miscarry without saving the products of conception (this is the medical term) be charged with indignity to human remains?

The key term is "what we know." It's going to be quite embarrassing to a number of you when we know more.

I guess there isn't any mental gymnastics required when you are able to fool yourself into certain beliefs.

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no. it wont. because i base my position on the best available evidence. thats the cornerstone of science based skepticism.

being wrong is never a source of emarrassment because im happy to change my mind. its fundamentally no different than gaining knowledge. further, basing your position on what we know, if what we know is incorrect, while wrong in facts, is not analogous to holding a position contradictory to what is known and accepted.

its a really odd of you to say that learning new information through scientific study is embarrassing. i doubt you actually believe that and wouldn't argue it, if you paused to consider it for a moment.

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Often there are funerals. A friend of mine miscarried. They had a funeral. It's fairly common.

Also, if you kill a pregnant you can be, and often are, charged with two murders.

Even here in ultra-liberal California that happens.

For what it's worth, I believe the dirty, selfish, worthless cunt the OP is talking about has every right to kill her babies as a form of birth control for purely connivence related reasons.

And I also have the right to consider her a dirty, selfish, cunt whore. Fuck that lady. I'm glad she'd kill for convenience. She'd most likely raise her kids to grow up into real fucking shitty people. Fuck her and fuck her unborn babies.

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- Chinese proverb

The only thing that's odd is refusing to destroy the eggs of a chicken, while harboring no hesitation to destroy the fertilized eggs of a human.

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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Those chickens are exploited!!!!!

Don't forget, he doesn't eat honey either. It comes from exploited bees!!!!!!

I wish I was joking.

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so you dont understand the reason i am generally against the practice of consumijg chicken eggs. you can save some trouble of having an incorrect argument against me by asking instead of assuming.

ill give you a hint...it has nothing to do with eggs.

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

you may not be joking, but youre wrong.

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

Do you consume honey?

If not, why not?

Why don't you consume eggs?

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I think if you did some looking around you'd find that in science "Human life" and "Individual human life" are used differently, at least that is my understanding

I don't know what to tell you. Your understanding is perfectly wrong. A fertilized human embryo is an individual human organism, a unique, distinct, human being. Again, science. It's not just some "organ" of the mother until brain waves develop.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

i do sometimes.

i dont consume eggs because im against the practice of factory farming. im also not against someone eating eggs in every circumstance.

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In California we can only get "cruelty free" eggs certified by our government overlords.

It's the law.

You should move here.

Btw, I don't eat honey. I use agave nectar instead. Honey is murder!

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If she's simply saying she's not ready, that (at least to me) sounds like a child is an imposition on her current way of life. How is that not me me me? Just curious on your take.

Are any of us really ready? In general we end up coping

Ok, this little quote here should be saved for posterity sake. And now other stupid things you have said here make a lot of sense. That's a very radical leftist idea you have there, and we should know who we are dealing with when you say the idiotic things you tend to.

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Its me me me as much as you eating a hamburger is killing a cow for selfish reasons.

If you were to, say, cut down a tree, we don't generally qualify that as being selfish. Selfishness generally implies that its done at the expense of someone else. I don't consider an organism that has never had a thought to be "someone else."

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Careful with this...somebody will now require you to define "thought" and that will take the whole thread from abortion through eating honey/eggs to something else :-)

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I would like you to explain your ivf comparison. Ignore all other talking points, just telll me what you are getting at. Don't ask me a question either, please explain.

Thanks.

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The problem with IVF is that it results in multiple fertilized embryos, most of which end up being discarded.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I see.

Here's how we did it. We told the Dr not to try to create more than two embryos. We told the Dr to implant all viable embryos (only one of the two was). Amazingly we were the first patients at that clinic to insist upon this. Usually I think they talk people out of it.

Of course we did this so that we would not be discarding any embryos. I can see why people go the 'create 5-9' route but we stood by our convictions. Amidst lots of Dr pressure to not do that.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

That's an admirable course. Sincerely. I have not heard of anyone doing that until now.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

As I said, it wasn't easy. The Dr puts a lot of pressure on you to create more than you might need.

But it can be done. You just have to insist.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Just adding... I had to be talked into this. But I agree with my wife now. A life is a life at any stage.

And yes, Ms. BLeP is an admirable woman.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Do you entertain suicidal thoughts? Serious question. Have you talked to anyone about it? Please do.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

I suggested this to our veggie loving friend. It's fun watching his mental gymnastics on this issue.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Of course anyone with any kind of grasp on human reproduction would never use such a stupid argument.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?