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Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week?
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Today was the day of the March for Life, which should be known to Pro Lifer's. Trump has done/said several things with respect to the Pro Life movement this week. If you are a Pro Lifer, how do you feel about what Trump has done/said this week?

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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [H-] [ In reply to ]
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Not a Pro-lifer by any stretch but I'm sure there is some satisfaction that the VP attended the march for life. May not mean much as far as abortion laws changing but it's a huge symbolic gensture.

In the end, though, many (most) of these people are "true believers" who will never be satisfied until abortion is made illegal in most, if not all, cases. And that is just never going to happen.

BTW, I wonder how much trash the pro-lifers left behind...

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [H-] [ In reply to ]
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I think its been a good week...I am a pro-lifer but I am not really for a ban on all abortions because we are a secular country and its never gonna happen. What I would like is the media to cover pro-life stuff more (I am dreaming) - no main stories on the Yahoo page this morning. Be nice if the country understood what we actually do allow in this country when it come to abortion (most would be appalled). There is a movie trying to get distribution for the story of Gosnel (sp?) but Hollywood will not touch it while at the same time they have supported distributed movies/comedies about moms going on the hunt for money to pay for abortions, but I digress.


In my dream world politically, the govt would stop all funding of abortions and let those that want it give their own personal money to fund the clinics...but that's just me.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [blueraider_mike] [ In reply to ]
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blueraider_mike wrote:

In my dream world politically, the govt would stop all funding of abortions and let those that want it give their own personal money to fund the clinics...but that's just me.

Man, are you in luck. Since the govt never funded abortions. But of course, you knew that.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
blueraider_mike wrote:

In my dream world politically, the govt would stop all funding of abortions and let those that want it give their own personal money to fund the clinics...but that's just me.

Man, are you in luck. Since the govt never funded abortions. But of course, you knew that.

The government funds Planned parenthood. What do you think they do with that money?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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They are required to show separation of the funding for regular "funded" services and abortion services.

The govt also funds every level 1 trauma center in the country, most of which provide abortion services.

They also fund road construction which allows access to abortion services.

It's a bullshit argue meant that is used as a clever wedge.

IMO It would be nice if the govt did not fund religious organizations or make me fund them. That's a much more honest statement than the govt funds abortions.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
blueraider_mike wrote:

In my dream world politically, the govt would stop all funding of abortions and let those that want it give their own personal money to fund the clinics...but that's just me.

Man, are you in luck. Since the govt never funded abortions. But of course, you knew that.

Great comeback, completely inaccurate, but why let facts get in the way.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Go back to your hole troll
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
They are required to show separation of the funding for regular "funded" services and abortion services.

The govt also funds every level 1 trauma center in the country, most of which provide abortion services.

They also fund road construction which allows access to abortion services.

It's a bullshit argue meant that is used as a clever wedge.

IMO It would be nice if the govt did not fund religious organizations or make me fund them. That's a much more honest statement than the govt funds abortions.


The Federal government has the Hyde amendment, however, my friend, inferior government may and in fact does pay for abortion.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
Go back to your hole troll

Ruh Roh someone else getting pissed because I wrecked their narrative.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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They give PP money. So PP doesn't use that money in abortions it frees up other money for them to use on abortions.

Anyway you slice it they are giving PP money and PP is doing abortions.

It would be nice if they gave money to organizations that help women deliver the baby and then give it up for adoption rather than PP.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Learn to type or at least review your posts before you post drivel.Why don't you link actual law where funding of abortions is allowed?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
They give PP money. So PP doesn't use that money in abortions it frees up other money for them to use on abortions.

Anyway you slice it they are giving PP money and PP is doing abortions.

It would be nice if they gave money to organizations that help women deliver the baby and then give it up for adoption rather than PP.

Set PP so the issue cannot be obscured. State level and below government can and does pay for abortion. His statement was erroneous in fact and he doesn't like being told that.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
Learn to type or at least review your posts before you post drivel.Why don't you link actual law where funding of abortions is allowed?

Too stupid to use Google?

Here is a super conservative organization discussing it.

https://www.aclu.org/...lic-funding-abortion

How do you like your crow? Fried, roasted, or stewed?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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Um, no. It's nothing new for businesses to have to segregate costs and funding sources. The largest hospitals in the US also provide abortions, should they also receive no federal funding?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
Um, no. It's nothing new for businesses to have to segregate costs and funding sources. The largest hospitals in the US also provide abortions, should they also receive no federal funding?

See BLEP this is why I said set aside PP.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
Learn to type or at least review your posts before you post drivel.Why don't you link actual law where funding of abortions is allowed?

I corrected the autocorrect. Happy?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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CW in NH wrote:
blueraider_mike wrote:

In my dream world politically, the govt would stop all funding of abortions and let those that want it give their own personal money to fund the clinics...but that's just me.

Man, are you in luck. Since the govt never funded abortions. But of course, you knew that.

Medi-Cal pays for abortions. Direct payment to abortion providers for services rendered.

Also, PP gets funding for the federal government. To say that government doesn't fund abortions is disingenuous, at best.

Let's say I work two different jobs. One job is running a gas station maintenance business and the other is driving for Uber.

My wife is paterners with me in the gas station thing but the Uber is all on my own. The wife doesn't really like the fact that I fuck prostitutes but I have a constitutional right to fuck prostitutes (it's written right in there, plain as day, right there where it mentions abortion).

So my wife is really pissed that she's paying (out of our household bank account) for my hookers. I simply explain to her that I only my Uber money goes to hookers and even though that Uber money would otherwise go to other household expenses it doesn't matter because it's magically a completely different set of money.

So obviously my wife now thinks this is perfectly ok.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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PPs main focus is killing babies. Comparing them to a hospital is stupid.

If you think otherwise then why does PP attack orgs that help women carry full term and then give the child up?

Want to know why? They are stealing their business.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
PPs main focus is killing babies. Comparing them to a hospital is stupid.

If you think otherwise then why does PP attack orgs that help women carry full term and then give the child up?

Want to know why? They are stealing their business.

I don't think otherwise I just wanted to focus on destroying his statement without any distraction or allowing wiggle room.
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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No, it really isn't.

But you can't separate the two. If Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center, which is the only level 1 trauma center in our area also provides abortions, then they should receive no govt funding, per your statement.

It would be very easy for PP to create a new business that only provided abortion services. They could then lease space from PP or anyone else at market rates . Would that scratch your itch?
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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See, now you're changing the subject.

The governement (states and fed) does, in fact, fund abortions.

I fucking hate the pro-choice crowd because they are liars.

I'm pro-choice, btw.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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I think that this is a bad example.

Say you have your gas station business and you go inter-state. AZ has different laws than CA, and they refuse to bear the OH that CA requires. Maybe there is a special piece of equipment that you need.

You just segregate out your OH rates into two buckets, one for CA and one for AZ. If you do a job in CA, AZ is not paying for the prohibited equipment.

We have similar restrictions on business class travel and alcohol. Not allowed on govt contracts, so the expenses are categorized not allowable and don't go into our rates. It would be wrong to say that the govt is paying for our booze...
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [CW in NH] [ In reply to ]
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Dude, just admit it. Federal funds pay for abortions.

You're either lying or ignorant.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Pro Lifers, what do you think of Trump's first week? [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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The conversation/thread started about trump, so we we were talking about federal stuff which is what my comments related to. The fed does not fund abortions.
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