The pain and rage caused by centuries of marginalization will generally not fit into the expectations of the non marginalized.

I saw a few with their hands up. There was a blomde chick with her left arm up while smoking with the right. You puff girl!

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DISH is how we do it.

Even better, A guy here in Texas got pulled over and live streamed his traffic stop. To include showing everyone that he had a little coke and weed to hid while the cop was distracted. He refused to give his ID, Insurance, demanded to only talk to the supervisor, and to make it better had outstanding warrants on him. People watching the live stream ended up seeing what the police go through and thought they handled it great.

Alright! Looks who's back!!!!

Yeah apparently I missed that. It was buried pretty deep in the article.

If the cop was white it would have been in the headline.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

I saw a few with their hands up. There was a blomde chick with her left arm up while smoking with the right. You puff girl!

I saw her too. I'm not sure why her hands were up.

When I see white people demonstrating like that, I wonder what they think of when they see people looting stores like the ones last night, or jumping on cars and smashing them. Do they ever ask themselves why they are supporting this kind of thing?

Alright! Looks who's back!!!!

LOL. I think he gets a notification from the LR whenever the word "black" is mentioned in a sentence. It usually isn't long before he makes some comment about the barbarity of police and the innocent black victims.

I do wonder if he also supports the looting and destroying of police cars or if that too is justified...

I was being sarcastic, but I've yet to meet a rabid atheist who also was a republican. Look at the ones here with hard ons for every religious debate imaginable taking the side of atheism and they are all liberals.

Pardon me if I take most of your comments with a grain of salt when it comes to things not typically associated with liberalism. You think I live in a Bubble is a funny comment coming from a liberal who lives in the bay area.

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They are the same people regardless of skin color. Or, it could be she is looking to make a quick $10.

I am just catching up with this story, but it is sounding like the same old Whitey (authority) is racists so lets destroy peoples property that had nothing to do with the shooting. This based on a false story like The Michael Brown hands up don't shoot narrative (that many still believe).

"On Tuesday night, 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was shot and killed by Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Officer Brentley Vinson in the parking lot of an apartment complex. Both Scott and Officer Vinson and black, but the shooting nonetheless sparked Black Lives Matter protests which focused the eyes of the world on Charlotte, North Carolina."

Charlotte police originally went to the complex at approximately 4pm, looking for a suspect with an outstanding warrant. Scott was not the suspect, but was observed getting out of his vehicle with a gun, before reentering the vehicle moments later. Officers approached the vehicle and Scott once again exited with the weapon in hand. After repeated orders by Police to drop his firearm, Scott was shot and killed.

Scott’s family and Black Lives Matter protesters claim that Scott was “disabled” and was killed while he was peacefully reading a book inside his vehicle. Police have recovered a firearm from the scene, but no books were found on-site. Local protests quickly began and it did not take long for the “peaceful” protests to turn violent.

So we have a flame so lets add some gasoline to it-

A man described as the brother of Keith Lamont Scott called all white people “f–cking devils” in an emotional video interview captured after Scott was shot and killed by a Charlotte, North Carolina police officer.

Daughter streams a racist packed live video inciting people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFRIbmUb83U


The DOJ Loretta lynch- “These tragic incidents have once again left Americans with feelings of sorrow, anger and uncertainty,” Lynch said. “They have once again highlighted—in the most vivid and painful terms—the real divisions that still persist in this nation between law enforcement and communities of color.”
Lets see black officer with black police chief shoots black perp.. Who to replace now?

Corine Mack, who attended the protests, said the community is frustrated.
"When will our lives truly matter? A black father is dead. There are children tonight who will never see their father again," said Mack, president of the Charlotte chapter of the NAACP.
"It clearly appears as if our lives don't matter. We need to change policies. We need to change procedure. We need to hold police accountable. It's a modern-day lynching. Charlotte is not a good place right now; we're in the throes of this problem."

To protect innocent people and their property it is time to enforce: 18 U.S. Code 2102_
As used in this chapter, the term “to incite a riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not ...

but but but he wasn't carrying it in a threatening manner!!!

I think I know who you are talking about. She had some sort of reddish dyed hair and was well tatted up. There are lots of her ilk 'participating' in the action. They are typical of the 'holier than thou, above the fray, more enlightened' white liberal loons that look for opportunities to get their picture taken in some sort of pose in front of a police line. Or, even better, get their pic on the front page of the Charlotte Observer in cuffs being hauled off by the vicious, evil, white police while they scream about the injustice of it all. If you ask me, they are hijacking the demonstration for their own purposes and I think a lot of the blacks feel the same way. While she was sitting on her butt all by herself in front of the police line, a concerned black guy went over to her and tried to get her up and walk away. He was able to get her up, then she gave him a hug and a smile and sat back down again.

FWIW, there was a peaceful demonstration earlier that went off with no problems. It was pretty much over by around 8 or 8:30. Most of those people then left the area. The people that hung around clearly had little or no interest in demonstrating. They were just looking for opportunities to steal or create any sort of chaotic situation that would allow them to benefit with some new sneakers or liquor. The first store broken into was Michael Jordan's Nike store and the second was a variety store with beer and wine. Does that tell you anything? Were they just 'demonstrating'? I suppose the people like Dave Luscan will say they simply crave the items that have been kept from them for hundreds of years by whites.

Anecdote, a white guy that works for me was in a different part of downtown with a friend and tried to leave about 10PM via an entrance ramp to the freeway. It was about 6-8 blocks from the area of initial confrontations and he was unaware the police line had moved forward and pushed the 'demonstrators' to the edge of the downtown area in the vicinity of the ramp he intended to use. He encountered about 100-150 people blocking access to the ramp. He was a white dude in a Dodge Ram pickup. In just seconds, he was surrounded and they started slapping the truck with their hands and hitting it with a plastic traffic pylon they had pulled out of the pavement. One guy put a really nice dent in the passenger door. There are marks all over the outside from the plastic traffic pylon. He ended up throwing the truck in reverse and hitting the gas, did a really fast U-turn in the middle of the street and noticed about 10 guys chasing after him. He had to use the sidewalk to get out of the area.

Greg

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They are typical of the 'holier than thou, above the fray, more enlightened' white liberal loons that look for opportunities to get their picture taken in some sort of pose in front of a police line.

Why do you hate FindinFreestyle?

   I'm going to go with those who are asking for the video and whatever other information that leads the police to be so sure that he was a threat. The chef of police now says the video is not conclusive as to whether there was a gun that was actually pointed at anyone.

he chef of police now says the video is not conclusive as to whether there was a gun that was actually pointed at anyone.

I was unaware that you were OK simply having a gun, as long as you don't point it at anyone.

~Matt

Thank god that North Carolina still values freedom for law abiding citizens.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...pree/article/2602559

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    Try to find the video of the chief speaking to it. He's pretty bad in this situation as a communicator, so there may be a pretty open/shut case for the deadly force, but he said little to assure of that, and they're still not releasing body camera video.

My favorite - they should have shot him in the leg, or maybe the hand so he'd drop it.

Try to find the video of the chief speaking to it. He's pretty bad in this situation as a communicator, so there may be a pretty open/shut case for the deadly force, but he said little to assure of that, and they're still not releasing body camera video.

My point is that if the Chief said "He had a gun. No he didn't point it at anyone" does not mean he should not have been shot. They don't wait and shoot until you point the gun at them or someone else, that would be stupid.

If you have a gun, you put it down...or you get shot.

~Matt

That simply means it isn't conclusive about him *pointing* it at anyone. What IS conclusive are the statements by several witnesses and the cops saying that he got into the car with a gun and then got back out of the car with a gun. Getting out of a car with a gun in hand in the face of several officers saying to drop it or get on the ground or whatever means that they are dealing with a guy that has a gun in his hand and is not obeying instructions. If you don't think that is perceived as a severe threat by a police officer, maybe you should try it sometime.

That said, I agree that having beautiful HD quality video of the guy standing there next to the car with the barrel of a gun pointed directly at the camera lens would be nice. If a cop let the situation get to that point, he's probably already dead and just doesn't know it.

Greg

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As is probably correct. I heard someone today go on and on about how they "refuse to release" the video. As if releasing the video to satiate the social media frenzy is some sort of obligation. They are investigating as we speak. It makes sense to hold the video of a killing until the details are in, and even afterward, I'm not sure I'd want it released. The worst moments of both the victims and probably the cops' lives on tape, maybe not something the entire world has some right to see.

Anyway, he's apparently arranging to show the video to the family, I suppose in the hopes that it will get them to help change the narrative or at least stop claiming he only had a book.

NC passed a law recently, not in effect yet, that would prevent the police from releasing video without judicial approval.

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    I was only reading about this story for the first day or more, so did not see any of those who witnessed Scott with the gun. I'm not doubting the police version, just moved to the "trust but verify" mode on most interactions. Video should be a good thing for the cops in most of these cases.

Why do you feel this way? It seems like more transparency at this point might lower the tension within the community.

Why do you feel this way? It seems like more transparency at this point might lower the tension within the community.

So in order to appease a "Community" that has shown very little indication that they are interested in the truth we have to essentially destroy the lives of multiple people on both sides of the tragedy by showing over and over again the death of an individual? Would you want the video of your son being shot played over and over again on the nightly news or youtube? Would you want to be the officer who shot this person being constantly confronted with the video, particularly if you were in the right?

If I'm the parent or brother etc, no I don't want the video's released and quite frankly if my son or brother just got killed I really don't give a shit what the "Community" wants.

~Matt

I'm not sure a video would destroy the lives of the people involved. The guy who pulled the gun surely didn't think of his family. As for the officer, I think that goes with the territory and general transparency that is needed within any government organization.