And the more angular and alluring look of the 596:



The P4- Form follows function:

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

Why hasn't Cervelo moved over to BB30? I thought that was the wave of the future, plus FSA is really behind it this year and they were pretty tight with Cervelo at CSC.

Interestingly the Look 496 uses a proprietary bottom bracket configuration that is enormously oversized. there are adapters provided for using a conventional crank. The P4 uses a functional, proven, refreshingly standard bottom bracket configuration.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

Is that a second generation water bottle for the P4? It already looks different from the first relaeased pics.

Honestly, I am not certain.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

My god, those bikes are ugly. Looks like someone took a sledgehammer to the top tube and seat post of the Look.

It maybe fast but sure it is UGLY

As indicated by the painting below, aesthetics are subjective:



bike design is said to be dictated by other parameters:

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

They both look much better in person. And I don't belive how thin the P4 is can actually be properley seen in photos...you have to see it live. But I will agree with man that it is ugly (this is coming from someone that really likes Cervelos). The Look is pleasant in person, and the new QR is just beautiful!

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"your horse is too high" - tigerchik

You are the second person today to tell me they like the looks of the new QR.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

I like how they put the "Lance Hump" into the top tube.

Oh man, can I steal that term? The "Lance Hump", I like it.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

Anyone know a weight on a p4 frame- also weight of fork?

What does that thing look like when you put a standard spoked training wheel on it?

Did they really build the P4 expecting to sell a ton of them? or did they build it for the buzz and the potential to grow the P2 and P3 models.

To you other post about what factors drive bike buying decisions for me its function than looks. I think the "average joe" walks into a bike shop and buys the fastest looking bike with the paint scheme most appealing to him or her. Paint / Color is king.

I was able to see the P4 in person and there is a lot of function going on that I don't think pictures can capture (i.e. chainstays, drive side bottom bracket, etc.).

It certainly will be interesting to see how it performs in 09'.

So for all the business and marketing types, who will sell more framesets in 2009...Cervelo or Trek (now that the Lance factor is back)?

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"There is no charge for awesomeness or attractiveness." Po "The Dragon Warrior", Kung-Fu Panda

A bit like a Playboy bunny in coveralls.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

heeeeee haaaw

huge.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

The P4 actually looks better in this shot than any other I have seen. I have no doubt that it is a much better looking bike in person. Impossible for a 2 dimensional photo to do it justice though I think you have done a better job than even Cervelo.

Aside from which frame/manufacturer you prefer, in the matchup of those particular builds the front end really gives an aesthetic edge to the Look. Of course the fit may (dare I say probably) be worse for any given rider, but the bar config appears much sleeker, and the drop from saddle to bar is sick. By contrast, the P4 actually looks rideable to me, not so aggressive.

Good point. Cervelo has been showing the P4 with the new 3T Ventus bar and it looks sick fast. It is nice to see a different build that does look more ridable. Might be interesting to see the response if Tom just changes out the aero bars. Might give each bike a totally different feel.

Tom,

I'm waiting as patiently as possible and then you post these pics : (

The only saving factor is its not a white one. If it had been, you would've received one nasty telephone call : )

By the way................any word, yet?

I did a double race weekend and completed only one of the races. Half way thru the second race the seat bolts snapped clean in half again and the seat fell off my bike. I dying for a NEW bike : ) The booboo was not the fault of the bike, though. I hit a speed bump, the fourth of 4 in a row (huge sharp one) at 38mph. Just about killed myself and my bike.

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It's a bit naive to think that the bike is designed purely by engineering...

Tom -- What is that little black 'cap' that is right next to the 4 on the downtube?