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Hey guys,
Just finished a blog post on brick workouts. Here it is:

Hitting the Bricks

During training, a triathlete frequently attempts to mimic race conditions in an attempt to minimize outside factors which can affect their performance. One weapon in the triathlete’s training arsenal is “brick” training. “Brick” workouts are defines as training one triathlon discipline followed immediately by another, most frequently, a bike workout followed by a run. This article will focus mostly on this type of combination.
Brick workouts attempt to accustom the athlete to the demands of changing from one type of exercise to another. According to Milet et al , when looking at the transition between cycling and running, several factors negatively influence running performance. “Laboratory data indicate that triathlon running is harder than control running at the same speed.” (1) While most triathletes would undoubtedly agree, the protean reasons why the run challenges the athlete are debatable. Researchers have suggested glycogen depletion, ventilatory muscle fatigue, dehydration, leg muscle fatigue, redistribution of blood to different muscle groups, as well as modifications in running economy. Some or all of these factors may play a role, however, the ultimate result can compromise maximum running performance.
Training strategies can mitigate many if not all of the debilitating factors leading to an unencumbered running effort. That said, studies show that the elite triathlete gains little from brick workouts, presumably due to overcoming the aforementioned limiting factors either from previous training or from the multiple race transitions. Junior triathletes, however, can greatly improve ranking times after the cycling transition by employing some training and strategies:
1) Decreased cycling energy expenditure at a given speed results in increased running performance. Thus, athletes should take advantage of drafting in draft-legal competitions.
2) Increasing aerodynamics can decrease energy expenditure on the bike, thus, finding the most aerodynamic position can result in better run performance.
3) Increasing base aerobic capacity allows greater demands in the transition to be tolerated.
4) Short, back to back, brick sessions, i.e. cycling 10 k followed by a 2 k run followed again by a 10 k bike and a 2 k run.
5) Since the cycling transition compromises running economy, performing technical workouts focusing on maintaining running form after a cycling effort.
6) Minimizing the time in the transition area. ( A subject for a later article )
In summary, one can superficially see triathlon as three individual sports each which can be mastered in isolation. In reality, the intertwining of the disciplines frequently surprises the novice triathlete. The sport must be seen as a whole whose parts integrate in such a manner that the swim affects the subsequent cycling just as the cycling ultimately affects the run. Without such insight, the triathlete will never reach their maximum performance.

(1) Millet G, Vleck V, Physiological and biomechanical adaptations to the cycle to run transition in Olympic triathlon: review and practical recommendations for training. British Journal of Sports Medicine 2000;34:384-390


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Re: New article on Brick workouts [sebastian] [ In reply to ]
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That said, studies show that the elite triathlete gains little from brick workouts, presumably due to overcoming the aforementioned limiting factors either from previous training or from the multiple race transitions.\\


That is the one true statement that most people that have done many races should take from your study. Bricks are fine for those that are new, and have not yet expirenced the transition from each sport, but once you have been around awhile, they are not needed. Some people get some mental benifit because they believe they work, but in fact, they really do nothing physically to make you faster. Most top pros like to do their runs seperate from other workouts, so as to get the maxium speed from it. There is little fatigue or whatever in their races, witnessed by 10k splits that are within a minute or less of an all out stand alone 10k. Not much fatigue in running a speed that is less than 10 seconds a mile slower than your best....Brick worlouts in training at this level, only hinders an athlete's ability to try and take their running to the next level. There is certainly a training effect in doing bricks, but for a well trained athlete, the training effect is usually not a problem, or what is holding them back from going faster.....
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Brick worlouts in training at this level, only hinders an athlete's ability to try and take their running to the next level.

For myself, I think the biggest downside to a Brick workout is the mental frustration that occurs when trying to mimic race conditions (pacing, etc.) when not properly tapered or rested for such an "event" and then getting out on the run and RPE and HR is sky high but pace is not as fast as it should be.

Lately, I have been finishing my bike rides by cooling, stretching, refueling and then heading out on my run 20-30 mins after the bike ride. I find I'm in a much better place mentally and able to deliver on my run goals.
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Mark,

I agree. It's really going to depend on how much an athlete races. Years ago, we raced a lot - like every weekend, and running off the bike well with dead-legs became second nature. I rarely recall doing a specific brick workout(s) - although from time to time would depnding on how many races I had under my belt.

These days many rec-triathletes don't race as much, so to get that simulation of what it feels like to get off the bike and run right away, doing brick workouts, should be part of their routine.


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Re: New article on Brick workouts [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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The ocasional brick is not going to hurt, and as I said, it will help build endurance. The ocasional anything is fine, but I hear of some athletes now doing over half their runs in bricks, and they believe that is the best way to improve their race running. And that is just not the case..
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [sebastian] [ In reply to ]
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One aspect you did not mention, which I feel is one of the key benefits of the brick workout, is the mental benefit - regardless of whether or not there are actual physical or race specific benefits from performing bricks, the psychological edge/knowledge gained from them is integral to my performance.

For example, after a long hard bike session, a 20-30 minute t-run gives me the knowledge of how I am going to feel for the first few miles of the run...one of the hardest points in a a race for me. While you can never totally mimic race conditions in terms of anxiety, tension, pressure, etc. - you can mimic, or a least have a good idea of how your body will respond. Furthermore, I know I sometimes tend to get cramps in my quads in the first few miles coming off the bike, but because of my brick work-outs I know that these will subside within 5-10 minutes and this knowledge gives me confidence and mental strength on race day.

On a simpler level, bricks train your mind to know that running follows riding. i.e. reinforcing the concept of thinking of the sport as a "whole" not three.
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [sebastian] [ In reply to ]
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I've done triathlon for a couple of years now, I've noticed that I have a harder time transitioning from swim to bike rather than bike to run. I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but it's just hard coming out of the water (I barely kick in a non-wetsuit swim and not at all in a wetsuit swim) where the blood goes from your arms to your legs on the run to transition and in the early stages of the bike.

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Re: New article on Brick workouts [Xterraguy15-19] [ In reply to ]
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I am with you here and also going from horizontal to vertical instantaneously.
Toward the end of the swim, I definitively kick a lot more and I actually try to do some breast strokes/frog kicks just to get some blood in my legs...

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Re: New article on Brick workouts [Xterraguy15-19] [ In reply to ]
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I've noticed that I have a harder time transitioning from swim to bike rather than bike to run.\\

A lot of that is because you will have your highest HR of the race, right there towards the end of the swim and through T1. So it takes awhile to bring it back down and get comfortable in a normal bike pace. And that goes for great swimmers as well as challenged ones. From bike to run, it is usually opposite, you go from a lower HR on the bike, and then gradually increase it on the run.

And for sure, there is some blood movement/muscle changes that goes on from swim to bike too, and all that takes just a little more time to sort out.....
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I tend to disagree with you regarding brick running. Most of the seasoned triathletes I know (unless they are racing on the weekend) will do a hard brick session at least every two weeks. Usually multiples of shorter distance (run bike runs) or (bike run bikes). Nothing gets you ready for running fast off the bike - like running fast off the bike - life is specific and you have to mimic in training what you plan on executing in a race. As far as changes in HR during a swim/bike/run race effort - I would suggest that a well trained athlete will have very little differences 3-5% variance throughout the entire race.

That said, a triathlete that wants to run fast needs to do speed work on the track or on the road in order to even have a chance at running fast during brick workouts. You need to do both speed work, and bricks to optimize triathlon run.

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Re: New article on Brick workouts [monty] [ In reply to ]
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The ocasional brick is not going to hurt, and as I said, it will help build endurance. The ocasional anything is fine, but I hear of some athletes now doing over half their runs in bricks, and they believe that is the best way to improve their race running. And that is just not the case..
Never say Never.

I experienced a VAST improvement in my running the last couple months since I started running almost exclusively off the bike. I noticed my running was often better after a mid to hard effort bike than when I went out a just did a stand alone run. So I started doing an easy 10 miler on the computrainer holding the HR in the 95-105 range and immediately went from struggling with 8:30 to 9:00 paced runs to being able to run 7:30 to 8:00 pace for my 4 to 8 milers. The explanation was simple, my legs usually hurt on the cold turkey runs so I compensated by slowing down. On warmed up legs I could run my normal pace. Every now and then I get lazy and do a stand alone run due to time constraints and it's a 50/50 shot whether I'll run at a decent pace.

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Re: New article on Brick workouts [monty] [ In reply to ]
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"Bricks are fine for those that are new, and have not yet expirenced the transition from each sport, but once you have been around awhile, they are not needed."

Concur 100%.

Unfortunately, bricks seem to be a hard habit to break for some...and others, once they've broken the habit themselves, want to disregard the initial benefits completely presumably because they don't accurately remember their early days as multisport athletes.
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [tri4balance] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing gets you ready for running fast off the bike - like running fast off the bike \\


NO, there is something that will get you ready for running fast off the bike, running even faster in a track workout, or some other speed workout that is faster than race pace... Or being so fit on the bike, and pacing your race well, that you have those fresh legs starting the run...Like I said, a few brick here and there are fine, but just ask Simon Lessing how many bricks he did in his career??? (0) Not to say that the several hunderd races he did were not bricks in pratical terms, but he, like many others, saved those for the races. And in everything, there is just not one right way to get the job done. SO comments like you have to do this to get better, just annoy me...


As far as changes in HR during a swim/bike/run race effort - I would suggest that a well trained athlete will have very little differences 3-5% variance throughout the entire race. \\\[/url]


I don't know how many top athletes you have had monitors through out the entire race, but I have seen quite a few of those graphs. Without fail, all have their highest HR's during the swim, and it is usually more than a 3 to 5% from the rest of the race. After settling down on the bike, then you 3 to 5% is accurate......
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So I started doing an easy 10 miler on the computrainer holding the HR in the 95-105 range and immediately went from struggling with 8:30 to 9:00 paced runs to being able to run 7:30 to 8:00 pace for my 4 to 8 milers. \\

No suprise there, I would be in the same boat, you just got warmed up. When I talk about bricks, it is a race effort bike, followed by the run, not a warm up bike....
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [jsquared] [ In reply to ]
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So I started doing an easy 10 miler on the computrainer holding the HR in the 95-105 range and immediately went from struggling with 8:30 to 9:00 paced runs

techinically this is a brick, but one could argue that you are simply warming up for the run. One (some would say main) purpose of a brick is to simulate race conditions. So instead of riding easy 10miler, ride it harder (probably a fair bit harder given its only 10miles) and then run. Another issue not discussed is the length of the run relative to the distance raced and accumulated fatigue.

One of the issues with bricks is doing the latter part of the bike portion too easy - coasting home for instance. If the purpose of the brick is to simulate race conditions then you need some load in the legs prior to the run.



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Re: New article on Brick workouts [IRONMOSS] [ In reply to ]
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What you point out here is that you most likely ride too hard in training when doing a brick. You should be able to come off the bike non taper in training and run relatively well and in controle in most of your session. If you can't. you need to back off a bit on the ride and when you reach that level of execution where you can run well off the bike in training,. you will step yourself for performing very well on race day taper and rested.

next session, try to ride a bit easier and see how your running improve..this will be a very valuable lesson of pacing but it take humility to do so...

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Re: New article on Brick workouts [SimpleS] [ In reply to ]
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techinically this is a brick, but one could argue that you are simply warming up for the run. One (some would say main) purpose of a brick is to simulate race conditions. So instead of riding easy 10miler, ride it harder (probably a fair bit harder given its only 10miles) and then run.


No, you're missing the point. I added in these easy 10 mile bike rides on my longer running days specifically to improve my running by warming up the legs. I was already doing 2-4 mile runs after my hard bike rides and noticed I was running better in my bricks than in my stand alone runs in all but my real race level rides where I might get some cramping coming off the bike.


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I did very few full brick workouts this season and didn't see any change in my running performance (and I usually finish top 5-10% of run splits for my AG). Even though I've tried to convince myself there must be a benefit, I just haven't found that to be the case. The only reason I ever do them, and believe there might be some value for AGers with day jobs, is that it helps me get in another run during a week since I have trouble getting in as many workouts in each discipline as I would like. If work/family commitments limit me to 8 or so workouts a week, I need to double up on some to get in at least 3x of each. Bricks let me keep up my run frequency even if I'm focusing on the swim or bike that week. A common "brick" for me would be an hour on the bike followed by 30 minute easy run.

I think people get lured by the idea of specificity. The problem is that unless you really push yourself, the workout isn't specific to race conditions. An hour on the bike followed by a jog is just a cool down. Sure you could push yourself and bike/run at race pace, but then you're really pushing your body and increasing injury risk. Take it easy on the bike, and as Monty noted, you're just getting a warmup. An even further irony is that a lot of the proponents of bricks on the "specific to racing" theory don't even live by their own words since they usually lolly gag through their transitions during bricks. I think there's a huge difference between starting your run after 2 minutes and starting after 10 minutes which is how most bricks are executed. You're better off entering a sprint tri and being forced to transition fast.
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most likely ride too hard in training when doing a brick

Most of the time, yes. Especially on Saturday with threshold intervals and then some unplanned hill climbing. Coach had me running HIM pace off the bike for 45-60 mins afterward. I was about 15-20 sec per mile higher than what I normally should be hitting in an HIM race situation.

So, you're right...I went too hard on the bike. :-)
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Re: New article on Brick workouts [tri4balance] [ In reply to ]
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I agree. My bricks are a very fast 6 to 10 minute run.
However a longer run off the bike IMO is also good for those of us that cannot get enough running miles during the week.
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Mark,

I agree. It's really going to depend on how much an athlete races. Years ago, we raced a lot - like every weekend, and running off the bike well with dead-legs became second nature. I rarely recall doing a specific brick workout(s) - although from time to time would depnding on how many races I had under my belt.

These days many rec-triathletes don't race as much, so to get that simulation of what it feels like to get off the bike and run right away, doing brick workouts, should be part of their routine

I was the #2 amateur runner at the philly tri (1000 athletes) last year. It was first triathlon in 9 months and the third I'd ever done. Just think what I could have done had I done brick workouts ; ^ )

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Re: New article on Brick workouts [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I dont disagree that running speedwork is an essential component of triathlon training at all distances, I just think that in an ideal situation an athletes performance can be optimized by throwing in some "brick work". Simon Lessing is an amazingly gifted athlete, and if his coaches didnt think he would benefit by some brick training - then they were likely right. For newbies though and people running ironmans I think bricks are in the category of "definitely should". Especially at irondistance races where I dont think its possible to have fresh legs if you are chugging along at 70-80% of max for 4.5-7hours. For myself - fast brick workouts work - as does running off the bike after a long ride in order to get ready for an IM or half iron.

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You run for an hour at HIM pace off the bike?! I have a run sometimes that includes that, it is by far my hardest workout of the week. I cannot imagine doing it after a hard bike ride. My hat is off to you.
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Monty

You are right that for world-class triathletes, key workouts are mostly single sport. But they have the time to structure their training to the optimum.

But the majority here are not able, myself included. Not that I'm a lousy athlete. I'm approaching 50 but my primary goal is top 10% in a race. I don't care too much about where I place in my AG. That is more than taken care of if I accomplish priority #1.

I am in the sport for the long haul because I love the lifestyle. But longevity as one ages-up is to stay injury free. And to place well requires aerobic endurance which means duration and frequency. About half the month I'm on the road so about all I can do at work is to squeeze in some recovery running and maybe a fitness bike in a hotel workout room.

So, when home, I have to brick continuously. In other words, a bike/run is for me one workout. Because I take pride in swimming well, the second workout of the day is a swim. Two workouts a day at home. For me running off the bike keeps me injury free because I'm fully warmed-up for the run. And for me there is no need to go anaerobic very much. Occasionally yes, like doing a 10 or 20 mile bike TT or the last 800 of a 3 mile run, but for the most part, the running off the bike is at max aerobic capacity. In order to develop more and more aerobic strength, I focus on lots of hills, bike and run. My new emphasis for the bike is extended grades at 142 hr. My key bike this week will be 80 miles, about 40% will be climbs at 142. 3-5 mile climbs at 4-6%. The key run is 8 miles with 4x1 at 7:30. The idea I'm shooting for is to develop the power to ride a half at 142 the whole way. I may be all wrong about this but time will tell.

And then run at max aerobic. For me in a half around 7:50 steady. A good swim and bike puts me right where I want to be.

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You run for an hour at HIM pace off the bike?! I have a run sometimes that includes that, it is by far my hardest workout of the week. I cannot imagine doing it after a hard bike ride. My hat is off to you.

Yeah, I did last weekend. Probably a mis-read or mis-understanding on my part when looking at my workout plan from my coach.

On one hand, I feel good that I could hold about +15 sec vs. HIM run race pace...on the other I'm probably playing with fire as far as injury potential goes.
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