is that 100$ or 100.000$ ?

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Well as it says in my post $100,000

Or Dollar sign one zero zero comma zero zero zero decimal zero zero. :)

This should be easy of 3 pros. The payout is better than IMNA offers if they split it.

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That's my thoughts as well. I woudl think all you would need is a small powerful cyclist to conquer the hills and you could easily do it.
I would love to see that done. ALthough I won't see it since I will likely be WAY back. ;)

aus_tri + francois + sergio = $33,333 each.

go get 'em boys.

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Wim - One hundred thousand dollars.

Do you think Lance would be interested???

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lol...I doubt it. I think he has many $100,000's lying around. Plus he would only get 1 third of it. Would be cool though. If Dave Scott gets some good folks on his team I wonder if he could pull it off.
Mark

50' and 2h30' marathon is do-able for some. so that leaves 4h40 for the bike course....

If it is really that hard, forget it, or you should have a 2h15' marathon dude at the start.

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you don't need lance to go sub 8

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No, but it sure would help the cause...

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<< aus_tri + francois + sergio = $33,333 each.

go get 'em boys. >>

Exactly. :45 + 4:30 + 2:40 ='s $$$ ka-CHING!!! ;-)



(and I'm probably selling Mark and Sergio short on their single-sport abilities w/ the above times)

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Im emailing Sibbersen, Sinballe, and anyone of the Kenyan elite runners to race.

Ill take 10g right off the top so its an even split between these athletes of 30g's

With almost 10,000ft of climbing on the bike, good luck on a 4:30, or maybe that would just be me that would have a hard time. :)

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Francois weighs like 45 lbs (not kg) and actually has a negative drag coefficient ;-)

OK, so Sergio's gonna hafta run a 2:30 or better. I'm sure SAC has got him primed so that he could do that at the drop of a hat.

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TriHive.com has an exclusive interview with Silverman RD, Frank Lowery announcing the $100,000 prize purse. Click here to go to TriHive.com and listen to Frank talk about the purse and the relay in his own words.

Alex

Just emailed Mark and Olaf about it...

I think that the prize purse will stay in Las Vegas, unless they really bring out the big guns, like tour de france riders and sub 2h10 marathonners....
chance that they will show up is slim, cause they don't need 33.000$

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this could be the start of a serious new race series. Imagine if race feild pros like grant hackett, david zabriskie, and negussi hailu were to team up, that's an easy win right there.

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I wonder if they give the runner a "special hydration" mix if they look to be on pace. Maybe some ipecac and raw chicken?

I would guess the trick here is not to go sub 8 but to be the fastest team. I would be surprised if any triathletes are on the team that wins.

http://www.silvermannv.com/images/silverman_bike_profile.pdf


http://www.silvermannv.com/images/silverman_run_profile.pdf

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10,000 ft of climbing and 1,000 ft of net gain.

Sub 8:00 will be harder than you guys think, but it's doable.


Oh yeah, 2800ft of climbing on the marathon as well.

<< I would be surprised if any triathletes are on the team that wins. >>

Why? There are many ex-Olympic caliber swimmers/triathletes around, so that part is "easy".

Somebody with Bjorn in their name (or comparable) could do the bike.

I'd imagine that any Pro would could go sub-3 on an IM mary could probably do 2:30 or possibly faster as a stand-alone.

Granted, none of these would be quite as fast as the current world champs/top pros in the 3 separate disciplines, but plenty fast enough to get the job done.

And unlike for the pros in the single sports, the tri pros could REALLY use the extra $33,000.

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Imagine one of the top TDF TT'ers, one of the Kenyan marathoners and one of the top open water swimmers. I bet they'd be closer to seven hours than eight.

<<TDF TT'ers >> Howzabout a former TDF guy?

Tyler Hamilton's not very busy these days.....

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I am giddy at the prospect of who could show up at the race!! :)

As an example, the guy who finished 4th in the US Olympic trials for the marathon did a 2:12. You don't think someone like that could use the $$?

If I were him, I'd be on the horn right now with Tyler Hamilton and would then start at the top of the list of distance swimmers at the 2004 trials and start working backwards.

Ok, so now imagine if 3-5 teams like that showed. What a n unbelieveable race that would be. I would almost want to skp the race and watch!

"Tyler Hamilton's not very busy these days..... "

Now that would be something. Somebody email him and tell about this race.

well, it sure looks pretty hard...very hard actually...
but with $100,000 at the end it's sort of expected, isn't it?

how about the reigning top3 5km open water swimmers in the world right now? Thomas Lurz from germany does 5k in 51... so does chip peterson from the US and Simone Ercoli from Italy. That would be one hell of a mens start...
Larsen jensen, or grant hacket, both 14:40's for their 1500's, same with david davies... I would fly down and watch that race if those 6 swimmers race it.

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Why do you need pro's???

...I would get Erik Clark to swim, BottomFeeder to bike, and the Monk to run. I think they would go sub 7:30 personally with my guidance. There would have to be "appearance fee's" with Monk for him to even show..

will Monk have his "special" socks on?

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it's going to be real interesting to see how this unfolds.

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The top pros would be way below 8hrs...

Just look at what chicken legs Rasmussen did last year in that solo breakaway win in the Tour.
4h30 for a top rider. faster for a super rider
A top marathon runner would run a 2h12' on this kind of course.
That leaves a lot of margin for the swimmer.
I'd expect a top team to go below 7h30.

his "Holy socks"? The ones he wears on Sundays that have big holes in them and give him huge blisters? Do we still have that picture of Monk's blisters from his last Ironman?

well...I just looked at the profile...indeed...I need to revise my statement...
it would take a team of specialists to go under 8hrs.

Maybe Mark and Olaf can do it, but with Bjorn, not with me.

well you aren't going to do it with that attitude. Anything can be done francois, its jsut a metter of putting the time and commitment in :D

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Wow, that could be exciting! I think the best part is that only ONE team can get the $100K. Imagine if four or five "superteams" show up to fight it out. Holy cow!

Hopefully, they will keep us posted on any superteams that register. The hype for this could be similar to the superbowl (for triathletes). It would certainly get a lot of discussion going on these forums.

Thanks for the info.

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I guess checking the bike course for real would help a lot.
It's 3000m of + climbing. That's a LOT.

well im sure your mom told you, just as she told me... "quand tu veut, tu peut" :|

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EEEEEWWWWW why'd ya have to go and post that

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she told it like that but wrote it quand tu veux, tu peux ;-)

bah excuse me, i havent written french since highschool...

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From what I have heard, no one can go 4:30 on that course. It's like 20-30 min. slower/tougher than, say, IM Canada.

if a really fast biker (say Bjorn) can go 4h50 it is doable.

Uh...I'm sure a quality pro cyclist could go 4:30 on that course especially considering they don't have to worry about running afterward.

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I'm sure I could do it in my sleep...literraly, I could do it while sleeping...especially during that dream where the buxom blonde jumps me at the end...then reality hits...

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Interesting... Two points:

- A team composed of only triathletes shouldn't win such a race.

- Such an even is bad for triathlon, not good.

Pfff. $100K divided by 3 = $33K. After tax in states like CA, that's like $18K left. I wouldn't expect all that many super-teams to show, especially if a lot of teams THINK others will show.

That said, I'd love to see it. But make the prize $500K to liven it up a bit!

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I might be wrong in my thinking, but really, could a pro rider do this solo. I would think that they may really much on the peloton draft to maintain an average speed necessary for this distance. I don't think they'd (or at least the average pro rider) TT very well for this distance.



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"Ok, so now imagine if 3-5 teams like that showed. What a n unbelieveable race that would be. I would almost want to skp the race and watch! "

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Yeah, imagine a pack of 3 or 4 guys hitting mile 20 of the run together knowing they were going to get a $66,000 beat down from their teammates if they don't win...

Is the RD high. A strong Cat 1/2 cyclist,a mediocre D1 swimmer and and a decent runner (2:30 guy) could do this pretty easy.

Could do what, have the fastest time? That would depend...

the 100K is probably covered by insurance or some corp throwing down the cash

very cool promotion

3000m of climbing...a strong cat 2? heck no.

10,000 feet on the bike...2000+ on the run. I think the bike could be tight but doable for the right cyclist, The run would probably be hard to break 2:25 given that much elevation, especially with so much toward the end. Makes me want to go watch. I'll bet 5-10 marquee teams worth watching.

After reading all the chit chat going back and forward, I just wanted to let you know that if you hear someone needing a swimmer let him/her know I am available for the challenge. I raced the full Nevada Triathlon last year, got out first after the swim (together with Dave Scott), with an official time of 51:19, I could certainly chop off a few minutes (3 or 4 at least) knowing that I don't have to go for the rest of the triathlon. I am not a pro (my profession feeds me and certainly feeds my hobbies) but I have been swimming for 27 years (last 10 years as open water swimmer) and I would love to go there, be part of an elite relay and have lots of fun.

How about giving $100k to the pro TRIATHLETES instead?
This event could only be won by single-sporters....
Relay triathlon is NOT triathlon.

I think if some big name teams got together to try it, it would raise awareness for the race. It would probably also increase entries. By doing both of those things, they may be able to land some more sponsors. Then they can give a good prize purse to the pros. If any non M-dot has a chance to survive it might be this one. Money flows in Vegas.

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Exactly: It's in Vegas. I don't have a problem at all with the team concept ... They should have all sorts of purses and odds and stuff.

You should make a phone call..."Hey Lance, want to make $33,333.33 for the LAF just for going for 1 bike ride? Ullrich said you're probably not in shape any more but just thought I'd ask..."

Look at it this way 100K to the top pro that turns in a comparable slow time on a tough course. OR a team of, likely fairly known, "specialist" that will likely turn in a time faster than any possible time on any other course by a single athlete.

You have the name recognition and a "promotable" time that will turn ALOT of eyes to this race. This is the type of thing that will put a race like Silverman on the map. Considering that IMNA races don't even allow relays this is something they can't do.

It can only be a good thing for the sport and better for the amatuer athletes, IMO.

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Could be $100K to the first team of 3 where each person has had a tri licence for 2 or 3 years.

Just emailed a 2:17 marathon friend of mine and asked if he is not interested to pass it on to our sub 2:11 friend.

A swimmer posted now who to ride? I have an idea or two.

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Winner of the Big Sur marathon 2:24-2:26...that would comparable

[reply]Well as it says in my post $100,000

Or Dollar sign one zero zero comma zero zero zero decimal zero zero. :)[/reply]


If this is for real I can guarantee that a Swedish team of me, Bjorn and Clas Bjorling will be there!

However, I am skeptical until I see real confirmation...

Jonas, I'm pretty sure it is the real deal. Here is a link to the press release

http://www.trihive.com/

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Here's the info on the race site: http://silvermannv.com/100k_relay.html

Awesome! This is the kind of thing I want to hear! Guy lining up to get their team together and go balls out against this course. Keep us posted, keep the teams coming!

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[reply][.reply]Well as it says in my post $100,000

Or Dollar sign one zero zero comma zero zero zero decimal zero zero. :)[./reply]


If this is for real I can guarantee that a Swedish team of me, Bjorn and Clas Bjorling will be there!

However, I am skeptical until I see real confirmation...[/reply]

That is awesome Jonas. And if you don't pull it off, I will try to organize a poker night where you can at least take all my money. :)

I just spoke to Bjorn and though there are quite a few questionmarks and the race is at the end of the year, he was all for the idea. as I said though, there are issues to be solved but the concept rocks!!

Norsemans bikecourse is probably tougher (and colder!)and he rode 5.20 in a triathlon and that was with 10 k extra added to the course due to change of T2. So, maybe a 4.40-45 for a flat-out ride is possible here, a 45ish swim if I can be in top shape (I was the Swedish Openwater Champ in '05) and hammer it out and Clas could certanly run a 2.30. With that said, I'm sure someone gives Tyler Hamilton a call and finds an eager kenyan to run....

However, this is great for the sport and great for the Silverman in putting their race on the map...

Triathletes,

Don't forget that you can listen to event mastermind, Frank Lowery talk about the relay, the purse and much more at the audio presentation found at TriHive.com. Frank answers questions many of you may have....and yes....this is for real!

Alex M.

I'm predicting Larsen comes out of retirement for this.

Let the trash talk...begin!!!

I emailed Olaf and Mark. Both are in. Only if Frank allows only triathletes in. If you allow specialists of each sports, it's a done deal and no triathlete team would get close.
For a Kenyan, $33,000 isn't peanuts (unless you're paul tergat and get 1 million just to run in London)...so there would likely be a 2h15 runner.
then he can easily find a 4h45 rider and a 43-44 swimmer

I wonder if there will be some protests from female athletes...surely an all-female team should have a chance of their own. What would be a legit time for them to trty and break?

or they can give anyone who posts in this thread an ST shirt. yeah!

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OOOH. That's nasty. Good thing I've had my dinner.

Did he just want to replace his soles?

I guess EO/AA says that females are also allowed to break 8hrs.
More seriously. I'd say around 9h15 on this course.
Usually there is a 1h diff. but more on hilly courses.

1. Sheilla T
2. Karyin Thurig
3. Heather Fuhr

Solid triathlete team...I don't know enough about women road bikers to know who'd be good in the women's unlimited division. Kate Ziegler and Tomescu-Dita (she'll race any race) would be the other two though.

I was thinking about that this morning... is it realistic for an all female team to have a chance at an 8hr time? What about a co-ed team?

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[reply]I was thinking about that this morning... is it realistic for an all female team to have a chance at an 8hr time? What about a co-ed team?[/reply]

There was talk on Gordoworld that Gordo, Bjorn and Monica (his wife) could team up. She is an steller swimmer from what I have heard. I would think the team would have to be coed. At least have the guy bike. But you never know.

You'd probably need a male runner too, as there aren't that many females who can run a marathon that fast.

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