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ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert!
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The 2017 WTS kicks off a new season tomorrow in Adu Dhabi at 6:45am Eastern with the women's race and then follows up Saturday morning at the same time with the men's race. The men's field is quite stacked but lacks either of the killer bees. Without Gwen or Flora Duffy racing I wonder who will take the reins of the women's race. It will be interesting to see who's already in decent form this early in the year.

Anyone else watching real time?

Cheers,

Hugh

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Last edited by: sciguy: Mar 4, 17 3:23
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, looking forward to it!
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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I put my money on Stimpson, though I'm pulling for cook. Don't forget to fill out the trifecta picks. Trifecta.usatriathlon.org
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Dumples] [ In reply to ]
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Dumples wrote:
I put my money on Stimpson, though I'm pulling for cook. Don't forget to fill out the trifecta picks. Trifecta.usatriathlon.org

I agree on Stimpson. Between having won Abu Dhabi last year and wanting to show despite not making the Olympic team that she's still a force to be reckoned with. She'll be out for blood. Javier and Mario ought to put the pressure on all the other men.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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I'm pulling for Katie Zaferes, but I think Summer Cook could be he real dark horse - especially if she has improved her bike skills.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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The bike course looks friggin awesome! I hope they have on-course coverage that does it a justice. I'm also pulling for cook... but I think this bike course might work against her.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
The bike course looks friggin awesome! I hope they have on-course coverage that does it a justice. I'm also pulling for cook... but I think this bike course might work against her.

What makes the bike course so awesome? Has it changed from last year? Also, I guess no hills in Abu Dhabi?
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Diabolo] [ In reply to ]
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the women's race is down to only 30 women. that's an awfully small field for an itu race, which probably will make it easier for a group to break away and stay away on a hillless course.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [mag900] [ In reply to ]
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mag900 wrote:
the women's race is down to only 30 women. that's an awfully small field for an itu race, which probably will make it easier for a group to break away and stay away on a hillless course.

Without Flora to initiate a break I'm not sure who might one expect to do so? Andrea Hewitt?

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [mag900] [ In reply to ]
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mag900 wrote:
the women's race is down to only 30 women. that's an awfully small field for an itu race, which probably will make it easier for a group to break away and stay away on a hillless course.

Wow, that is a small field. Is the men's field small too?

Don't think he was racing this one anyway but it was announced today that Jonny Brownlee is out for the start of the season with a hip injury.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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With a small field, a small front swim pack may form - I've picked Cook for the win based on her raw talent, but have little confidence she'll stay in the front group if its very small with the technical turns - if she stays in the front pack, her win at Edmonton sprint last year shows she can run well after struggling on the bike.

Melanie Santos as a longshot for the podium.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Scotttriguy] [ In reply to ]
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Scotttriguy wrote:
if she stays in the front pack, her win at Edmonton sprint last year shows she can run well after struggling on the bike.

Watching her dangle solo completely off the draft at Edmonton was a viscerally painful experience.

Hugh

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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My live video only loads for 1 -2 seconds then I get a black screen and this message:

"embedding is disabled on this page"

Anyone else too?

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Scotttriguy] [ In reply to ]
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Scotttriguy wrote:
My live video only loads for 1 -2 seconds then I get a black screen and this message:

"embedding is disabled on this page"

Anyone else too?

Same here ...........must be a technical problem at the site:(

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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video hanging for me too :-(
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Now working when I tried google chrome instead of firefox.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Scotttriguy] [ In reply to ]
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good call - works on chrome for me too - was on IE before
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [ashtanga_yogi] [ In reply to ]
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My video is good.

The field is 30 (not 20) but it's still small.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [mag900] [ In reply to ]
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Early prediction: Betto pushes bike pack away and hits podium

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Scotttriguy] [ In reply to ]
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Bit harsh but what is the point in Routier being a triathlete?
Last edited by: messien: Mar 3, 17 4:34
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [messien] [ In reply to ]
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Nicky Samuels =retired now
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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Will be interesting to see how Mola does on this bike course tomorrow given wide packs are unlikely to form.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [trineuropa] [ In reply to ]
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trineuropa wrote:
I'm pulling for Katie Zaferes, but I think Summer Cook could be he real dark horse - especially if she has improved her bike skills.

Katie herself has obviously improved her bike handling skills a good deal over the past couple of years. Summer's riding reminds me of how Katie use to ride....dangling off the back out of the draft and needing to do intervals to catch back up.

Stimpson is certainly looking solid so far. It will be super impressive if she runs great on top of this ride.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Vilic is impressive - can she pull the big upset?

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Scotttriguy] [ In reply to ]
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What happened to the Americans?

Great win for Hewitt. She and Stimpson did so much work on the bike too.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Scotttriguy] [ In reply to ]
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Well done Andrea!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Rooting for Gomez.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [messien] [ In reply to ]
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Fell off the pace on the bike. On the bright side, I believe we had three out of the water in the top five which is a nice foundation.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I was excited to see that gap out of the water. Gwen has shown that you can be an adult-onset biker. Cook definitely has that elusive swim/ run to be competitive. Listening to her Babbitville interview, she is just very new to the bike. Plenty of time for growth.

I hope True is okay. Any word on why she pulled out? Seems like a very different circumstance than the cramp on the big hill in Rio and she was 7th at the Grand Final, so it isn't a streak or anything.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [MI_Mumps] [ In reply to ]
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I'm new to following ITU, so I don't fully understand race dynamics yet, and I don't know all the athletes yet; but what the heck happened to Rutier and Cook?
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [guscrown] [ In reply to ]
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guscrown wrote:
I'm new to following ITU, so I don't fully understand race dynamics yet, and I don't know all the athletes yet; but what the heck happened to Rutier and Cook?

Carolina Routier is a fantastic swimmer as triathletes go and leads the swim at pretty much every race. She may well have sponsors that provide a bonus for "winning the swim". Sadly Carolina's bike and run talent is no where near as great as her swim talent so she's pretty much always dropped from the bike front group early on. Summer Cook is also a very gifted/talented swimmer and is really just learning to handle her bike. She sits in so far behind the other women that she does not receive much draft and ends up needing to work extra hard after every corner to catch back up to the front bike group. She is a very talented runner and if/when her bike handling skills improve she could prove to be very competitive overall.

So on to the men's race this morning. Will the Spaniards dominate the South Africans? Will France return to glory? Without a killer bee will the field come together and make for a drag race to the finish?

Hugh

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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I think I picked Gomez, Mola, Murray and Schoeman in that order. We'll see soon!

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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I think I picked Gomez, Mola, Murray and Schoeman in that order. We'll see soon!

Mola and Murray certainly have some work to do after that swim. Will Murray pull a Stimpson today?

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi tomorrow morning at 6:45 Eastern [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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I see Vincent Luis has been taking lessons from AB.

No way would the Mola and Murray pack close to the first group if the Brownlees were there. Will be interesting to see what happens here.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know where to watch it? Is it only triathlonlive?

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [oscaro] [ In reply to ]
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oscaro wrote:
Does anyone know where to watch it? Is it only triathlonlive?

Yes

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Schoeman persistently just sits at the back.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [messien] [ In reply to ]
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Impressive that Salvisberg made it to the front pack - he had to bridge the gap himself when the front group split - took a couple of laps at the back - now helping at the front - maybe sneak on to the podium? (Behind Gomez, Schoeman)

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messien wrote:
Schoeman persistently just sits at the back.

That won't endear him to the others especially if he makes the podium.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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It really does mean he is leeching off the effort most of the others are making to stave of Mola and Murray.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Great race by Bishop after doing a good deal of work on the bike.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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Gomez is class, what else can be said? Absolutely huge race for Bishop and interesting to see Alarza outrun both Murray and Mola. Good to see Luis on the podium too after risking it a bit in Rio and paying the price.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [messien] [ In reply to ]
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messien wrote:
Gomez is class, what else can be said? Absolutely huge race for Bishop and interesting to see Alarza outrun both Murray and Mola. Good to see Luis on the podium too after risking it a bit in Rio and paying the price.

In the limited coverage of the second pack it appeared that Mario and Richard were both drilling it at the front a good bit trying to bring the front group back. I didn't notice whether Alarza was doing the same. It was amazing to see Richard more than make up the ~ minute on Schoeman who sat in for the whole ride.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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The podium today was made up entirely of the lead bike pack. I'm wondering how often this season we may see just that? Historically Murray and Mola have been able to run themselves on to the podium, but they made up very little time today on the run. It's either early in the season for them or the other athletes have stepped up their run prowess.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [Timtek] [ In reply to ]
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Timtek wrote:
Historically Murray and Mola have been able to run themselves on to the podium


I just had a look at Murray's last 10 World Series results (including Rio and the test event) to analyse that. He's definitely a great runner and does put a significant amount of time into much of the field if he starts from behind on the run. But how true is it really that he can run himself on to the podium from behind?

From his last 10 results, he's podiumed 5 times.

3rd at Edmonton 2016
2nd at Abu Dhabi 2016
3rd at Chicago 2015
1st at Edmonton 2015
3rd at Rio Test Event 2015

We can immediately discount the 2015 Edmonton win as everybody came off the bike at the same time.

In the 2016 Edmonton 3rd place, it was Brownlee, Varga and Royle who came off the bike 7 seconds in front.
In the 2016 Abu Dhabi 2nd, it was just Fabian who came off the bike 12 seconds in front.
In the 2015 Chicago 3rd, it was Kanute, Salvisberg, Van der Stel and Colucci who came off 37 seconds in front.

For me the only result in his last 10 races where he's podiumed whilst running from both a significant time gap behind and against several regular top 10 runners is his 2015 3rd at the Rio test event where he made up over a minute to get third.

Then if you look at his 5th today, 4th in Cozumel, 4th in Rio I think it becomes clear that it's actually very difficult to run yourself on the podium from behind.

In fact skimming through the rest of his results to 2012 I cannot find one other instance of where he's podiumed whilst coming back from a significant time gap on the World Series (might have missed one...)
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [messien] [ In reply to ]
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Stop dispelling hype with facts :)
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [messien] [ In reply to ]
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Just an FYI HS will likely be staying in hospital overnight.

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Just an FYI HS will likely be staying in hospital overnight.

What happened?
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B_Doughtie wrote:
Just an FYI HS will likely be staying in hospital overnight.

That's interesting. His color looked really "off" with blotchy light and dark areas. I wondered if he'd gotten a bad sunburn just before the race. If he's sick that would explain his cycling tactics and sub par run.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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His words "I don't remember last lap of run".

He had elevated HR. Should be fine will have more tests done.

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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Ah well that probably goes some way to explaining his bike leg. Hopefully he's fully fit for the super league in a couple of weeks.
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Re: ITU World Triathlon Series Abu Dhabi today, Saturday, at 6:45 Eastern spoiler alert! [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Billington had a very impressive all around race. Kanute remains a class swim/ biker - not sure he'll ever have that second tier 10k that he'd need to get many top 10s, but I love how he goes for it.

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