Yes. It should add no more than 3 seconds to your transition time. By the time you get to your bike, it should be rolled down to your waist so all you have to down is slide it off.

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How much time do you think it saves in the swim? I typically go 22 mins for 1.5k in the pool and 15 seconds faster with a wet suit in open water.

It kinda depends what you are wearing as a tri suit and how it fits. I'd venture 30-60 seconds.

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Thanks; I should probably just go to the pool and try with and without.

It is worth 1-2 seconds per 100 at 3800 meters that is over a minute.

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Which speed suit are you looking at?

The answer is YES. It takes no time at all to get out of a speedsuit. I have the least expensive Roka speedsuit, it was the only one left in my size when I order last fall and I can feel the difference. It's almost as fast as a short-john wetsuit. And like a short-john, it comes right off.

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Hmm then 15-30 seconds for an Oly. Not sure if it's worth it

Haha, if anyone in my AG wants to give up 30 seconds in an Oly distance, please do so!!!!

:)

Said in jest, you may not have time or placing goals, and if so that's great and I would agree not to buy one. I race mostly cold water but doing Coz 140.6 so I bought one when I got a good deal. Been using it all summer in the ocean trying to get y money's worth. Not going to place in Coz but for 2.4 miles i think it's worth it.

And they're nothing like a wetsuit, should not cost any time at all getting it off, maybe 2-3 seconds.

Keep in mind that besides the couple seconds it saves yo, it could also allow you to swim on faster feet, so conceivably another 3 or 4 seconds. That is unknown, but what is known is you will not swim on faster feet without one.

Why didn't they use speedsuits at the Olympics then?

I don't think they are allowed in draft legal racing. Non draft legal triathlon doesn't have the same set of rules which is why you see UCI illegal bikes, swim skins, and other interesting equipment.

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It's not legal in ITU style racing. If you notice the kits they all wear (1 pieces), most are all advertised as speed suits and a swim skin on top would be very little benefit.

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Are you saying you think a wetsuit is only worth 1 second per 100? I have a hard time believing that. I know a speed suit is worth 2-3 seconds per 100 for me and I am fairly certain more than that for most people. This is petty much a no brainier.

Interesting, I've been wondering about getting one for IM COZ but not sure I want to spend ~250 just to save 2 minutes. Are you planning on wearing a 1 piece tri-suit on the Speedsuit for the race, or do a full transition into bike shorts etc for the race?

I bought the Roka viper elite for $133, I had a barely wetsuit legal 70.3 and was going to try it there but ended up in the wetsuit. I have a 30% code if you want. had to wear a wetsuit yesterday, hated it but will have to get used to it again I guess. Roka skin is awesome but can't say I've had it in the pool to see if / how much faster

Right now I am planning in just wearing the de Soto sleeved suit underneath the skin and riding in that. We'll see though, been a couple years since I did a full and haven't gotten into the meat of long riding yet. For the run may change to a long sleeved cooling top.

If you don't mind sending the promo code that would be awesome, might almost make up for me paying in C$.
Stupid question, but does wearing a speedsuit keep the salt water off what ever you are wearing underneath? I assume they have some sort of shower system for COZ.

I'll send. No there isn't any protection from saltwater but from reports I've read I think there are showers?

I think he is saying that open water swimming is slower than pool swimming.

Keep in mind that depending on who the sanctioning body for the race is a speedsuit might not be legal. Up here the Ontario assoc. of triathletes (OAT) uses the itu rules which state that in a non-wetsuit swim no item of clothing that is worn for the swim can be removed during the course of the race - you can wear the speedsuit but you have to bike and run in it too.

Absolutely worth it. Why would 15 seconds not be worth it? Think about just taking 15 second breather in t1 at very least if you don't want 15 seconds. Is a 15 second breather worth it?

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I thought I posted but I don't see it. Resending:

So I just went to the pool to compare; one piece tri suit with speedsuit vs without; pool is 25 meters.

300 warm up with Speedsuit on top of tri suit. Did 2 100's and 1 200.
Results:
100: 1:23
100: 1:28
200: 3:04
The speedsuit felt a bit restrictive but my torso felt high in the water.

Then took it off and did the same drill.
Results:
100: 1:29 (+3)
100: 1:26 (-2)
200: 2:58 (-6)
Total - without the speedsuit was 5 sec faster.

The "trisuit only" felt much better in the shoulders though my torso was riding lower. Could feel some drag around my belly. I could probably size down with the trisuit. But whatevs, I think I'll go without the speedsuit at Cozumel.

I don't think there is a special body type or swim style that "doesn't work" with a speed suit. So your test makes no sense. There is something massively wrong with the fit or perhaps you purchased a knockoff speed suit via eBay?

What do you suspect is the problem? You mentioned you shoulders feeling restricted, can you still streamline off the wall with a nice tuck?

Yes...

... unless you forget to take it off and you overheat on the bike.

...unless it's a race in France and you get DQ'd because of the variation in their rules vs. most all of the rest of the world and the difference isn't clearly communicated. Ahhh, the French.

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Agree re the fit and something sounds a little off. I don't even notice I'm wearing the Roka viper in the water. Sleeveless so no issues with shoulders

The decision to wear a speedsuit would likely delight others in your age group, as you show as DQ'd on the results sheet.

Speedsuits are ITU illegal (has nothing to do with draft legal or not) for non-wetsuit swims... Barring some sort of freak weather event, one could say with a high degree of certainty Cozumel will be wetsuit illegal... For the Grand Finale (sprint or Oly), in a non-wetsuit swim, you have to wear the same uniform start to finish, and it must comply with ITU uniform guidelines...

You can wear one iirc, however it has to be under your ITU sanctioned and approved race suit and you can't take it off for the whole race.

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Well that simplifies things!

Rule not specific to drafting... Speed suits not allowed in ITU short course events where the water is too warm for wetsuits... read the ITU rules not USAT

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