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I usually schlep my big floor pump as part of my transition baggage on race morning.
I use it to top-off my pressure to a certain psi before the start.

Since the big pump can be quiet cumbersome to transport I was wondering what a good alternative would be?
Something in between a full-size floor pump and a on-the-bike mini-pump but still offering accurate psi gauge.

Who has a good alternative?

Thx.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Recommend_me_a_high_quality_'tweener_PUMP_for_travel__P5951805/?search_string=travel%20pump#p5951805
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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That Craftsman inflator is great.
We use them constantly in Cyclocross.
At that price it does not look like it comes with a battery, so be sure to get one of those too.

I know that Both Leyzne and Specialized make 'tweener' pumps (Others may as well).

The Lezyne Micro-drive is much smaller than a floor pump and somewhat bigger than a hand pump.
http://www.lezyne.com/product-hpumps-hp-microflrhp.php#.V2QD_vkrKaE


The Travel is a compact floor pump
http://www.lezyne.com/product-fpumps-hp-steeltrav.php#.V2QDo_krKaE


The Specialized Compak is a travel floor pump as well.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/accessories/air-tool-compak-floor-pump/105425

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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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I usually make sure there is air at the race site. Otherwise I will air up when I unload the bike at the race site in the morning. If it is a night-before bike drop I just make sure there will be air at the site in the morning. I have not encountered a race with no air on site, even small local races.


I like that little Craftsman pump.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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I too wrestle with this. I don't want to bring a full size floor pump to transition. Mini pumps are a last resort. The Lyzene Travel Drive looks good, but really isn't that much smaller than a full size pump.

How about this for an option: top off with a CO2 inflator (that has a gauge). Since this is only really necessary for IM races, I don't mind the small cost of a CO2 cartridge.

I was thinking of this unit:

Portland Design Works BARkeep CO2 Inflator

Anyone have an experience with the unit?
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Re: Race day pump [TriBiker] [ In reply to ]
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TriBiker wrote:
How about this for an option: top off with a CO2 inflator (that has a gauge). Since this is only really necessary for IM races, I don't mind the small cost of a CO2 cartridge.

One issue is that CO2 escapes more quickly, so you could use a lot of it by the time the IM bike leg is over. Particularly if you have latex tubes.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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Best raceday pump is the one someone else has to bring to the race.

"Can someone give me a pomp? A pomp?! They are allowed to give me a pomp, right?"

Holy shit just realized it's been 8 years. What?????
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Re: Race day pump [xtrpickels] [ In reply to ]
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After a little googling and following the links I decided to pick up the Lezyne Micro Drive HPG Pump (with gauge).
Seems to best fit the bill (small, light weight, gauge).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UZO7RM

Comments on the other options:
The Specialized ComPak comes in nice protective case but is almost double the price or more when adding in s&h.
The Sears accu inflator is HEAVY. Not something I want to lug around in my transition bag.
The Lezyne Steel Travel Drive seems as big as a normal floor pump just with a foldable foot.

Thx again. Will have it by Sunday and hope it works as expected.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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I like the mega morph, very easy to transport (even has a carry bag with shoulder strap), pretty much as easy to pump as a big floor pump, even has an integrated pressure gauge.
http://www.topeak.com/.../Pumps/mega_morph_bk

Specialized also has a nice travel pump as well, but I tested it and would suggest you avoid it, as it will not work on the majority of tubes or valves or valve extenders because the head has to be screwed on to the valve or else it will not work. Not sure why they designed it that way, as it makes for a very limited use pump. But the mega morph above will work with everything.

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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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Read title as race day DUMP. Totally different
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Re: Race day pump [TriTamp] [ In reply to ]
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Although we can give advice on that too, I'm sure. Pro tip: bring your own TP because it will run out.
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Re: Race day pump [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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and if you don't bring your own - check for TP BEFORE you sit down.
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Re: Race day pump [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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+1 on this. Definitely like to have my own TP.
Others seem to need it too before the race. I am always very popular with fellow racers who borrow my pump before the race.
Dilbert wrote:
Although we can give advice on that too, I'm sure. Pro tip: bring your own TP because it will run out.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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The Sears battery pump is a nice tool (since Bosch doesn't make theirs anymore) but the bad news is that the NiCad battery is expensive crap. I got the pump because I had bought a tool set that used the same battery and had two of them already. The NiCad battery drains down very quickly just from sitting, even if it is not connected to the tool. Totally untrustworthy. The lithium battery is $80 and the charger is $50 but I don't know about their reliability.
The Leyzene pump takes a few more strokes than a full size, but it is a great design with an accurate built in gauge, foot peg, lock on head and bleed off valve. Extremely compact and light.
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Re: Race day pump [TriBiker] [ In reply to ]
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The Lezyne Travel drive is a good bit smaller than a normal floor pump, but works just as effectively. It also has the versatility of the Lezyne chuck that doesn't require a crack pipe for a disc.

I travel to IMNZ with this pump in my bike bag, carried into transition in a back pack on race morning, and then handed it off my bag to my family. Super easy to travel with this pump.

Here is the sizing compared to my old travel pump:


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Re: Race day pump [jakers] [ In reply to ]
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I'm also in the market for a travel/race day pump. Needs to fit into a 22" carry-on and preferable no "tripod" type base for easy carry in race day back pack. The only pump I've found seems to be the Lezyne Travel but I don't like the screw on/screw off valve. Their website sells the dual valve head with the locking lever and states it is "compatible" with the Travel model but Amazon reviews indicate you have to cut the already short hose to use it. And the dual head needs to be able to accept a "standard" disc adapter "crackpipe) for use with my Zipp 900 disc which has a very small opening (even when dremeled out). Anyone use this pump with this dual valve head and adapter or have any alternative suggestions? Thanks.

ps....getting nervous about Lezyne customer service.....call customer service and/or sales at 12:25 EDT / 9:25am Monday morning their time and you can't reach anyone. And for email, they say will get back in 3-5 days! Not the kind of customer service that's going to attract a lot of new customers.

update....got email from customer service within same day and in process of getting questions answered including crack pipe adaptability.....will provide another update

another update....customer service was responsive and knowledgeable....kudos
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Re: Race day pump [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Does this pump work well with a crack pipe ?
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Re: Race day pump [rmg] [ In reply to ]
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rmg wrote:
Does this pump work well with a crack pipe ?


I assume you are asking about the mega morph. I have not tested that (don't have a crack pipe or disc wheels), but the valve stem on the mega morph looks like this:



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Re: Race day pump [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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I like the mega morph, very easy to transport (even has a carry bag with shoulder strap), pretty much as easy to pump as a big floor pump, even has an integrated pressure gauge.
http://www.topeak.com/.../Pumps/mega_morph_bk

Specialized also has a nice travel pump as well, but I tested it and would suggest you avoid it, as it will not work on the majority of tubes or valves or valve extenders because the head has to be screwed on to the valve or else it will not work. Not sure why they designed it that way, as it makes for a very limited use pump. But the mega morph above will work with everything.

not exactly on the topic, but close enough: interesting you mention it, as I tried the Serfas FMP-969 Aluminum Floor Pump - and as gorgeous as it looks etc etc - it has the same issue! it worked only on 1 out of 4 tires/valves I tried... totally frustrating.. returned it next day... happily sticking to the Topeak line!

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Re: Race day pump [dindu] [ In reply to ]
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dindu wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
I like the mega morph, very easy to transport (even has a carry bag with shoulder strap), pretty much as easy to pump as a big floor pump, even has an integrated pressure gauge.
http://www.topeak.com/.../Pumps/mega_morph_bk

Specialized also has a nice travel pump as well, but I tested it and would suggest you avoid it, as it will not work on the majority of tubes or valves or valve extenders because the head has to be screwed on to the valve or else it will not work. Not sure why they designed it that way, as it makes for a very limited use pump. But the mega morph above will work with everything.


not exactly on the topic, but close enough: interesting you mention it, as I tried the Serfas FMP-969 Aluminum Floor Pump - and as gorgeous as it looks etc etc - it has the same issue! it worked only on 1 out of 4 tires/valves I tried... totally frustrating.. returned it next day... happily sticking to the Topeak line!

Agreed, who in this day and age of thousands of different types of deep rims and valve extenders designs their pumps with a screw-on only pump head? Not smart. As a result, I also had to return the Specialized pump, as it was useless for any of our bikes.

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Re: Race day pump [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
dindu wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
I like the mega morph, very easy to transport (even has a carry bag with shoulder strap), pretty much as easy to pump as a big floor pump, even has an integrated pressure gauge.
http://www.topeak.com/.../Pumps/mega_morph_bk

Specialized also has a nice travel pump as well, but I tested it and would suggest you avoid it, as it will not work on the majority of tubes or valves or valve extenders because the head has to be screwed on to the valve or else it will not work. Not sure why they designed it that way, as it makes for a very limited use pump. But the mega morph above will work with everything.


not exactly on the topic, but close enough: interesting you mention it, as I tried the Serfas FMP-969 Aluminum Floor Pump - and as gorgeous as it looks etc etc - it has the same issue! it worked only on 1 out of 4 tires/valves I tried... totally frustrating.. returned it next day... happily sticking to the Topeak line!


Agreed, who in this day and age of thousands of different types of deep rims and valve extenders designs their pumps with a screw. -on only pump head? Not smart. As a result, I also had to return the Specialized pump, as it was useless for any of our bikes.

I like the design of the mega morph too.....except it's way too tall at 26.7" so it definitely won't fit in a carry-on. I just ordered the Lezyne Travel (19 inches tall) and added the dual valve head.....which they confirmed will fit without cutting the hose contrary to all the Amazon reviews. Not that I need dual valves but it eliminates the need to screw on with their standard "flip chuck". Lezyne's customer service was very responsive (kudos to them) and also confirmed a standard crack pipe disc adapter would fit into the dual valve head. Should be delivered in a few days....will update when I try it out.
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Re: Race day pump [gphin305] [ In reply to ]
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I like the design of the mega morph too.....except it's way too tall at 26.7" so it definitely won't fit in a carry-on.

Doing a little simple trig, I think it might just fit in a standard 22" x 14" x 9" carry on diagonally. But if you really want to know for sure, I can test fit my pump in my carry-on suitcase ...

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Re: Race day pump [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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You can't bring any floor pump in a carry-on. I ordered the 20'' Lezyne this afternoon and I will ship it in the bike case. I called TSA this morning and while I was waiting for an agent who never picked up I listened to the recording explaining how some things like a bat can be used as a weapon and are excluded. I wouldn't want to have waited in the line only to be denied and have to run back to check in my pump with baggage and then return to TSA to wait in the line again. The Sears battery pump is also excluded because it says that cordless drills are excluded and they are not going see the difference.

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Re: Race day pump [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
gphin305 wrote:
I like the design of the mega morph too.....except it's way too tall at 26.7" so it definitely won't fit in a carry-on.


Doing a little simple trig, I think it might just fit in a standard 22" x 14" x 9" carry on diagonally. But if you really want to know for sure, I can test fit my pump in my carry-on suitcase ...

Good thought but still 2 1/2 to 3" too long....plus it won't fit that well in my race day backpack. Hopefully the Lezyne Travel will do the job
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Re: Race day pump [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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You can't bring any floor pump in a carry-on. I ordered the 20'' Lezyne this afternoon and I will ship it in the bike case. I called TSA this morning and while I was waiting for an agent who never picked up I listened to the recording explaining how some things like a bat can be used as a weapon and are excluded. I wouldn't want to have waited in the line only to be denied and have to run back to check in my pump with baggage and then return to TSA to wait in the line again. The Sears battery pump is also excluded because it says that cordless drills are excluded and they are not going see the difference.

I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who had this problem with carry-on. The only reference on the TSA website is under "bicycle tire pump" where it states this item is okay as carry on or checked. They can't be referring to small hand held pumps because they also suggest checking with airline to ensure it fits under seat or in above bin......which it will if its inside your carry on bag. Again, appreciate hearing any feedback from those who have taken pumps as carry on. I also ordered the same pump and plan to carry on with my next trip in August.
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Re: Race day pump [gphin305] [ In reply to ]
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I just found this:

Search Results For:
bicycle pump

Check or Carry-on
You may transport this items in carry-on or checked baggage. For items you wish to carry on, you should check with the airline to ensure that the item will fit in the overhead bin or underneath the seat of the airplane.
To help officers get a clear look at your bag and reduce the need for additional screening, we suggest you pack your bag in neat layers (layer of clothes, layer of electronics, layer of clothes, layer of shoes, etc.) and wrap cords tightly around electronics items.

Even if an item is generally permitted, it may be subject to additional screening or not allowed through the checkpoint if it triggers an alarm during the screening process, appears to have been tampered with, or poses other security concerns. The final decision rests with TSA on whether to allow any items on the plane.

Great, even though it is allowed, it can be rejected. I'm glad we got that cleared up!



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Re: Race day pump [jakers] [ In reply to ]
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I got the Lezyne Travel Pump on Thursday and just used it to pump up two bicycles, 4 tires. I'm 6'0 so it feels really low when I'm pumping but it pumped up just about the same as my full size Lezyne. This pump will fit nicely in the bike case with my wife's size 52 bike. The screw on chuck is no big deal. I couldn't get in on my H3 but I do have a crack pipe so I just have to make an adaptor to get it to fit.

All around I'd say it's a win For short trips i can skip the checked bag and for longer trips it won't take up as much room as the full size pump.

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Re: Race day pump [jakers] [ In reply to ]
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Does the Lezyne chuck thread onto a Presta valve and fit inside a Zipp disc cut-out with a 51mm valve stem (common for latex tubes)? I'm looking for a solution where I don't need three hands to pump.


jakers wrote:
The Lezyne Travel drive is a good bit smaller than a normal floor pump, but works just as effectively. It also has the versatility of the Lezyne chuck that doesn't require a crack pipe for a disc.


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Re: Race day pump [TH3_FRB] [ In reply to ]
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I could get it to lock on to a 48mm valve stem in a Zipp disc. pumped up my own tires in transition.

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Re: Race day pump [TH3_FRB] [ In reply to ]
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I've replaced the Lezyne chuck with one of these:


http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lezyne-replacement-abs-hose/


This allows me to bend the valve very slightly on the disc (I have a 2009 Zipp with a dremelled cut out, so very small) and screw on the hose. It also screws on to the valve extender on my 808 front. Works perfectly for me. I found the standard Lezyne chuck wouldn't do my disc, and nor would the speed chuck.
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Re: Race day pump [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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Dilbert wrote:
Best raceday pump is the one someone else has to bring to the race.

"Can someone give me a pomp? A pomp?! They are allowed to give me a pomp, right?"

Holy shit just realized it's been 8 years. What?????

Haha - Good one! I can't believe 8 years either. I watched her cross the finish line then!
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Re: Race day pump [trimule] [ In reply to ]
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trimule wrote:
The Sears battery pump is a nice tool (since Bosch doesn't make theirs anymore) but the bad news is that the NiCad battery is expensive crap. I got the pump because I had bought a tool set that used the same battery and had two of them already. The NiCad battery drains down very quickly just from sitting, even if it is not connected to the tool. Totally untrustworthy. The lithium battery is $80 and the charger is $50 but I don't know about their reliability.
The Leyzene pump takes a few more strokes than a full size, but it is a great design with an accurate built in gauge, foot peg, lock on head and bleed off valve. Extremely compact and light.

The Lithium-Ion battery is fantastic. Used 3-5x a week, the charge lasts 2-2.5 months.
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Re: Race day pump [trimule] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting option. I already have several Craftsman C3 tools and 5 Li batteries. That pump + battery would definitely be heavier than a small manual travel pump but in my bike bag I guess a pound or two really doesn't matter. I'll check it out but I'm leaning towards the Leyzene if I can work out a good thread-on solution that fits my Zipp Super9 disc.

trimule wrote:
The Sears battery pump is a nice tool (since Bosch doesn't make theirs anymore) but the bad news is that the NiCad battery is expensive crap. I got the pump because I had bought a tool set that used the same battery and had two of them already. The NiCad battery drains down very quickly just from sitting, even if it is not connected to the tool. Totally untrustworthy. The lithium battery is $80 and the charger is $50 but I don't know about their reliability.
The Leyzene pump takes a few more strokes than a full size, but it is a great design with an accurate built in gauge, foot peg, lock on head and bleed off valve. Extremely compact and light.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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i'm a big fan of my Lezyne Travel Pump for race day applications. It can pump to high pressure, has a pressure guage, and overall excellent fit & finish. It's biggest downside is it looks like an expensive pump, so when I loaned it to my GF last year for 70.3 Worlds and she loaned it to someone in transition, that a-hole decided to abscond with it. I hope he flatted and DNF'ed!!

But I bought another as proof that its a great pump. And I no longer allow anyone to walk off with my pump. If they're too lazy to bring their own to transition, they can bring their bike to my rack.
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Re: Race day pump [BrickMick] [ In reply to ]
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I have the Lenzye compact pump as well and it works great. But if you want to go REALLY SMALL, I use this:

Lenzyne Micro Drive HP Pump (with guage)

I swapped the heads for both of the lenzyne pumps with a Top Peak Smarthead.

TopPeak Smarthead

The TopPeak head add some extra hose and more bulk to the pumps but they work flawlessly and with any kind of valve.

The micro drive is a little harder to pump than the compact but its much much smaller and i'm pretty sure it's carry on friendly.
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Re: Race day pump [mike_w] [ In reply to ]
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mike_w wrote:

One issue is that CO2 escapes more quickly, so you could use a lot of it by the time the IM bike leg is over. Particularly if you have latex tubes.

CO2 doesn't work with latex tubes

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