Are you cruising glamour.com?

Cosmo is too slutty.

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I'm going to start a 3d version of Uber where you can check out the pictures of the driver and swipe left or right depending on how hot the driver is, Tinder style.

Apparently it is only discrimination if you are not a white male.

I know several women who are uncomfortable riding alone in Uber/Lyft because they're getting into a car with an unknown male. Unrelated to any actual rape allegations. I don't know how rational or valid that fear is, e.g. getting into a taxi is little different.. But I tend not to criticize it too deeply given that the fear is pretty foreign to me given that I, personally, have almost zero risk of getting raped myself...easy to dismiss someone else's risk.

And statistically a woman has an almost zero chance of being raped by an Uber driver.

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Unless the driver is Muslim and recently arrived from Syria? Driving is a popular occupation among low-skilled immigrants. Mostly taxi-driving, but many taxi drivers moonlight as Uber/Lyft drivers.

So you're saying there is a chance?

How many women have been raped by Uber drivers?

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Not a far cry from this guy LINK

He had raped far more women before it was outed.

You need to drop that negative attitude. You're selling yourself short.

Have a female friend that is an ER doc here in the Boston area and refuses to ride alone in Uber based on what she has seen in the ER.

Understand that is an n=1 and have no idea what the comparative statistics are for taxi's....

What has she 'seen in the er'?

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I have no idea. But some number greater than zero?

You're missing the point. Some women are uncomfortable. You can either a) go mansplain to them about "statistics" and when it's OK for them to be afraid of rape, and when it's not OK for them to be afraid. Or you can b) create a business that caters to them!

Can I then create a similar business that only caters to men?

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Uncomfortable? Whahhhh!

You can't create a discriminatory business because some people are uncomfortable.

Some cake makers are uncomfortable with gay weddings.

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Oh I think I know where BLeP is going!!! So clever.

I don't know. But it's an academic point. Outside of maybe some gay communities the service for a man-only driver will not be popular.


Women's fear of getting into cars with unknown males is far more pervasive.

That's easy to say as a large guy with various fighting skillz.


Yeah, I don't know the legality of this. It could be that if the services don't refuse men who try to use the service, they'll be OK, legally speaking.

I don't know about the practice of only allowing female drivers. Certainly if I apply for a job as a waiter at Hooters, I'm unlikely to get hired. Because I'd make the customers angry (a type of "uncomfortable"). So there is precedent. I don't know the finger points of the law, here, off the top of my head.

http://www.whosdrivingyou.org/rideshare-incidents

Not trying to be "clever". Discrimination is discrimination. For some reason it's ok to discriminate against men but don't you dare discriminate against women.

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I'm going take a wild guess and say that site is funded by taxi cab unions, teamsters, etc.

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It was more of a passing comment and we didn't discuss it in detail so I am not sure. She routinely uses Uber with her husband, just not alone. I recognize the limited utility of this n of 1.

See, we do agree on something ;-)

Winner winner chicken dinner:


http://www.lctmag.com/...p-rideshare-services

Wow. I really was just guessing.

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Well somebody is doing the raping?

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somebody has to pay for the research :>

either way, there's a fair number of convictions on that list, so not total bs

Outside of maybe some gay communities the service for a man-only driver will not be popular.

I think a service of female only drivers for men would be a hit though.

~Matt

What tipped you off, this? "We are an initiative of the Taxicab, Limousine & Paratransit Association (TLPA). TLPA has been the leading source of for-hire vehicle industry knowledge since its founding in 1917."

I only read this one sentence…

"Uber’s process for onboarding drivers is dangerously negligent."

…and knew.

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This morning's news: https://www.washingtonpost.com/...ed-woman-police-say/

I was just coming here to post this article. The headline is dead on for once, this is a truly horrific story.

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"Posed as".

Do you know what 'posed as' means. It means the rapist wasn't an Uber driver.

Don't know if you've ever used Uber but it gives you a picture of the driver on your phone. If someone shows up who isn't that pictured person then DON'T GET IN THE CAR!

Oh and check this out (where's 'taxis for chicks?)…

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...cleshow/50421300.cms

http://ktla.com/...-have-other-victims/

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/...n-in-sunnydale-taxi/

And this one is the topper…

" It’s nearly impossible to get actual numbers, but conservative estimates report that at least 50% and upwards of 90% of NYC cab drivers are from South Asian or Middle Eastern countries, the majority of whom are Muslims. So it’s no surprise that the incidents of rapes of female passengers by cab drivers are also on the rise."

http://shoebat.com/...ers-by-taxi-drivers/

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I guess we should get rid of cops too since, you know, this guy posed as one: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/...pe-at-least-3-women/

Or just use a woman driver!

No one has proposed getting rid of Uber in this thread. (I think that's what you were implying?)

MIght work in certain neighborhoods! Go for it.

I've used Uber a few times and it's usually a chick (probably because once they see it's me all them ladies fight over it).

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Or we only allow women to pose as cops.

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Like your dick sucking business?

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I think Duffy could start a male escort service, a gentleman to ride with the Uber womans passengers to protect them from the rapists.

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"When I first had the opportunity to compete in triathlon, it was the chicks and their skimpy race clothing that drew me in. Everyone was so welcoming and the lifestyle so obviously narcissistic. I fed off of that vain energy. To me it is what the sport is all about."

Good idea.

Similar to the carpool buddies that people in Jakarta hire to sit in the passenger seat so they can drive into the city.

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seems like an easy fix for Uber, allow a customer to choose M, F, other drivers in their preferences.

That could be a can of worms, though. Think of a bunch of drunk guys trolling for a F driver.

There is a case for only allowing women to choose women. But you're right, Uber could easily add "Uber Pink" to "Uber Black."

That's racist!!!

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

It could be, especially since Uber doesn't verify the sex of the rider. But a female driver could always elect to only give rides to female riders. Maybe when setting up the account for a female rider, they could request additional screening to get a verified F status to make those female drivers more comfortable in picking up those fares.

There are always going to be crappy people out there but I think Uber could be hurting from the woman rider side of things with the women feeling unsafe with a male driver, not the other way around. It seems like the drivers can pick and choose the fares they want to pick up easier.

I'm sure those that would like special treatment are more than happy to pay extra for it.

Either way, your idea can become problematic. What if I'm uncomfortable with gay drivers?

Can I request white only drivers?

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I think if there is enough public concern about color/orientation of your driver, Uber would develop it. Now, I don't think that is an issue so they probably won't address it. Right now Uber has a perception problem where female riders are wary or using uber because of that perceived threat of sexual assault. Easy fix is give the ability to filter drivers based on their sex rather than lose possible business to another startup

There's a problem with that start up, though. It's illegal to only hire women drivers.

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Not necessarily.

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https://www.bostonglobe.com/...cEs0BqhEP/story.html

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Did you read the article or just the headline?

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Did you read it (and respond to me) within 2 minutes?

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I did. It's not very long.

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That's what she said.

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'kay.

The reason I say "not necessarily" is that the article only talks about the probability that Chariots for Women might violate state law in Massachusettes. It says nothing about federal anti-discrimination laws (which it might also violate . . . or might not). There is also mention of a BFOQ defense that Chariots for Women might have a way to qualify for, although there's not enough detail to know. In any event, the article far from states that hiring only women drivers is illegal. At best, it posits that it is "probably" illegal.

I'd just throw out there the case of Hooters restaurant, which hires only female servers. You don't need to be female to serve food, yet Hooters seems to be able to do just that with minimal discrimination lawsuits (I know of two they settled, but have NOT changed their policy to hire only women servers). Hooters argues that in addition to serving food, their servers play a specific role for which female sex appeal is an integral role. Can't say that this is a BFOQ, but they've successfully disposed of some discrimination challenges and the EEOC even dropped a gender claim against them on this issue in the mid-1990's. I can conceive of a viable argument along similar lines (albeit not "sex appeal") in which Chariots for Women might be able to credibly argue that being female is a BFOQ (or at least close to it) for their business model.

It wouldn't be easy, but the argument is there.

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There are legal gray areas. Hooters, which I already brought up. There are women-only fitness clubs that happen to be staffed by women. Generally the gray-area companies are allowed to operate as long as someone doesn't make a big a stink and sue them. You're welcome to sue Chariot or whatever if you're really offended by what they're doing and equate it to bigotry.

I just think it's a solution in search of a problem.

Nobody will need to sue them. They'll fail on their own.

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Another n=1 experience, but perhaps with a few more in-depth details about training and some statistics regarding uber.

http://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2016/04/29/uber-driver-sexual-pass

Creepy, yes. But are you any more or less likely to have an encounter like this in a cab?

Here's n=1=1.

Taxi and Uber assualts, same night.

http://nypost.com/...uber-drivers-police/

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I agree - it isn't clear to me where you would look to find real data on assaults or reported assault in a taxi or uber, if it exists at all.

Begs the question if the safety issue is a red herring from the taxi industry as a response to uber cutting into their market share.

Without question it is. Sexual assault is not unique to Uber.

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