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Holy smokes if you are bored.......Ledecky just set the water on fire in the 1500. Good grief.

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Holy smokes if you are bored.......Ledecky just set the water on fire in the 1500. Good grief.http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396[/quote[/url]]

So, what was her time??? No results are available yet on the web site.


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suspense is killing me...

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Holy smokes if you are bored.......Ledecky just set the water on fire in the 1500. Good grief.

http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396

Why do you waste our time??? She only went 15:42 and was 14 sec off of her own WR. I mean, 90% of ST can swim faster than that (in an OWS with a strong current and in a wetsuit:)


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Re: Mesa Grand Prix [ericmulk] [ In reply to ]
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Damn! Universal is televising it, but only two sessions.
And, not today.
Typically, when distance are televized; they show less than a quarter of the race.Even in the Olympics.
I would love to see a whole distance race.
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tigerpaws wrote:
Holy smokes if you are bored.......Ledecky just set the water on fire in the 1500. Good grief.http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396[/quote[/url]]

So, what was her time??? No results are available yet on the web site.

I'm sorry I'm a bad boy I was engrossed in the flyover start progression of the race right after and forgot! Just wanted to get the link up real quick so people could watch online if they wanted.

She was soft pedaling that race her kick was almost off compared to when she is in throw down mode in a final. I think her gap was ~ 50m on 2nd it was crazy. They zoomed in on her at the wall and literally she was hardly even gassed. I know what she looks like at the wall when she has put it all on the table having watched her enough to know there was way more in her throttle. Can hardly wait for Worlds.

Super interested to see how rusty Phelps is and to see what he is racing didn't look at sheets.
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tigerpaws wrote:
Holy smokes if you are bored.......Ledecky just set the water on fire in the 1500. Good grief.

http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396


Why do you waste our time??? She only went 15:42 and was 14 sec off of her own WR. I mean, 90% of ST can swim faster than that (in an OWS with a strong current and in a wetsuit:)

Did IT's threads rub off on you? Paddles/fins/wetsuits are what is holding the sport back you charlatan! Now go back to your warm up set of 100 x 100 leaving on :55.
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tigerpaws wrote:
ericmulk wrote:
tigerpaws wrote:
Holy smokes if you are bored.......Ledecky just set the water on fire in the 1500. Good grief.http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396[/quote[/url]]

So, what was her time??? No results are available yet on the web site.


I'm sorry I'm a bad boy I was engrossed in the flyover start progression of the race right after and forgot! Just wanted to get the link up real quick so people could watch online if they wanted.

She was soft pedaling that race her kick was almost off compared to when she is in throw down mode in a final. I think her gap was ~ 50m on 2nd it was crazy. They zoomed in on her at the wall and literally she was hardly even gassed. I know what she looks like at the wall when she has put it all on the table having watched her enough to know there was way more in her throttle. Can hardly wait for Worlds.

Super interested to see how rusty Phelps is and to see what he is racing didn't look at sheets.

there's a link to live webcasts on SwimSwam.com, if anyone is interested. I caught Ledecky's swim starting at about the 400, she did look a little off at the start of the race, but she came back really well. I "think" she neg split the 1500, but I haven't seen the splits to confirm or not.

Shame that McBroom scratched yesterday, I would have liked to see what he could've done in the 800. I'd imagine that he cares more about the 1500 though.

And Phelps has an interesting lineup, he's entered in the 400 free. I hope he swims it and doesn't scratch.

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There was another really impressive swim in Ledecky's race, Madelyne Donohoe is only 13 (16:44 for 3rd)...

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There was another really impressive swim in Ledecky's race, Madelyne Donohoe is only 13 (16:44 for 3rd)...

I know I heard that name over the loud speaker, but didn't know the age. Whew scary. We have a 14 year old on a local club team who got a trials cut a few weeks ago and she is just a little half pint. Amazing to watch these little twerps just MOTOR!
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I looked up the NAG records, which I had never really done before, Becca Mann has the 13-14 record at 16:11.98. (that;s LCM....)

wow.....

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I looked up the NAG records, which I had never really done before, Becca Mann has the 13-14 record at 16:11.98. (that;s LCM....)

wow.....

She swam just down the street from me for years with Randy Reese at Clearwater aquatics, but if memory serves she moved to NBAC last year. I've watched her swim a few times it's astonishing to see that kind of talent up close.
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And not really to do with Mesa, but because Phelps is there it kinda relates.

Phelps confirmed that he would not be seeking a spot on the Worlds team for Kazan, basically saying that he didn't want to displace anyone who had earned their spot. So the FINA Exec Director comes out today and says that it wouldn't be a problem to assign an extra spot for Phelps, just because he's Phelps. Forget about the qualification process, it's cool.

WTF FINA? They already have a credibility problem, now this???

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And not really to do with Mesa, but because Phelps is there it kinda relates.

Phelps confirmed that he would not be seeking a spot on the Worlds team for Kazan, basically saying that he didn't want to displace anyone who had earned their spot. So the FINA Exec Director comes out today and says that it wouldn't be a problem to assign an extra spot for Phelps, just because he's Phelps. Forget about the qualification process, it's cool.

WTF FINA? They already have a credibility problem, now this???

Wow I had not heard about that. Yikes. I am definitely going to head over to swimswam and read the postings I'm sure the fever pitch around that topic is crazy
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Re: Mesa Grand Prix [tigerpaws] [ In reply to ]
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Heats are on now -

http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396

Ledecky top qualifier for the 200 free, Hosszu is right behind her.

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Re: Mesa Grand Prix [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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For the swimmers, other than sunscreen (I assume?), do you approach an outdoor meet much differently than indoor?
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Heats are on now -

http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396

Ledecky top qualifier for the 200 free, Hosszu is right behind her.

I'm watching the 100 breast.....that stroke is still a black art to me. The propulsion these kids can get from that whip kick is wowsers.
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can be harder to stay warm if it's breezy, cool if it's hot, between events.

Backstroke can be an issue if you just train indoors, especially long course.

mirrored goggles are your friend.

But mostly, outdoors is much nicer than indoors.

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Re: Mesa Grand Prix [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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Well MP looked awfully strong in the 100 fly I think I heard on the overhead that was a top 25 time in the world this year. Can't imagine him not tuning his 2fly though. The 400 free is what I'm dying to see. He went 3:47 in Indy in 2005.....gonna be a hoot!
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Yeah, he was a hair slower than at the same meet last year, but with a lot more beard.... A lot of the other top times are shaved as well.

I think he's done with the 2 fly and the 4IM though. They are really tough to fit into the Olympic schedule, with prelims / semis / finals. he's gonna focus on the freestyles, 2IM and 100 fly.


Ledeck surprised me with her 4IM. Thought she looked pretty good, considering that she is really a pure freestyler...

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Swim swam says he is training for 200 Fly again....

Would like to see him try.

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I just saw that, it isn't what he was saying last year.

I don't think he'll end up doing it in Rio. He would be the best American, so he might, but I don't see him beating Le Clos, unless Le Clos decides to not give a crap anymore. and I think it'll take a lot out of him to swim that 3 times.

100 fly
200 free
200 IM
possibly the 100 free, depending on if he gets his front end speed up a bit. He's never gonna hang with Adrian over the first 50, but he needs to be a bit closer...

plus 3 relays makes it a pretty full schedule for Rio... If he does all of the individual events that's at least 15 swims.

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200 Fly he will make the final, 100 Free is a gamble...

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I think if he wants the 100 free, he'll make the final. I don't think he can win, but he'll make the final.

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Ledecky looks sharp coming off altitude... 15.42 1500, 1.56 200, 4.42 400 (IM)

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Phelps didn't look all that good in the 400 free. Way behind McBroom, who I think swam a 3:53. I haven't seen the times yet, but it didn't look like he broke 4. Took it out quick though....

Ledecky did a 4:02 in heats.

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JasoninHalifax wrote:
Heats are on now -

http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396

Ledecky top qualifier for the 200 free, Hosszu is right behind her.


I'm watching the 100 breast.....that stroke is still a black art to me. The propulsion these kids can get from that whip kick is wowsers.

Adam Peaty just broke the WR for 100 breast by half a second. sub-58 LCM....

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Just saw that... wow Peaty is on fire.

Phelps 17th in 4.02 and Lochte 11th in 3.58.

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Phelps tied Ledecky - 4:02.67....

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Re: Mesa Grand Prix [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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Dang that 100m men's final was exciting!
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And she swam 8.13 in the 800.

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And she swam 8.13 in the 800.

So now she's gone under 8:14 five times, and she's the only woman ever under 8:14. Rebecca Adlington's 8:14.10 from 2008 is the 6th fastest performance.


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A league by herself for now...

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Re: Mesa Grand Prix [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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tigerpaws wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
Heats are on now -
http://www.usaswimming.org/...ault.aspx?TabId=2396
Ledecky top qualifier for the 200 free, Hosszu is right behind her.

I'm watching the 100 breast.....that stroke is still a black art to me. The propulsion these kids can get from that whip kick is wowsers.

Adam Peaty just broke the WR for 100 breast by half a second. sub-58 LCM....

Ummm, you forgot to mention that Peaty's WR was set in a diff meet in a diff country. Minor detail i know but you might want to add just a tiny amount of further detail like his time was 57.92, which was 0.54 sec below previous WR of 58.46. Fastest 100 breast at Mesa was 1:02.09 in the prelims.


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I figured that anyone who cared would probably know that peaty was a Brit. Mesa isn't a prime meet for world records, the top guys who are there typically aren't rested. Phelps looked pretty tired himself, that showed in the 2im and the 4free. Sprints were decent if not earth shattering.

I did say it was a wr by a half second though. That's the stat that is most impressive. And peaty had room for improvement on the start...

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I figured that anyone who cared would probably know that peaty was a Brit. Mesa isn't a prime meet for world records, the top guys who are there typically aren't rested. Phelps looked pretty tired himself, that showed in the 2im and the 4free. Sprints were decent if not earth shattering.

I did say it was a wr by a half second though. That's the stat that is most impressive. And peaty had room for improvement on the start...

Well, right i know WRs are rare at meets like mesa but my point was/is that i spent 15 min or so scanning through the mesa men's 100 breast prelims, finals, and time trials thinking that surely Peaty must have swum in this meet. Sure i know he's a Brit but the tread was/is about the mesa meet, which is what threw me off. Finally i googled and saw he swum his WR in the British Nationals. No big deal though, it's not like i haven't wasted 15 minutes before, but if you had just added something like "and in the Brit Nationals, Adam Peaty broke..." it would have been helpful:)


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Phelps tied Ledecky - 4:02.67....

And Ledecky with a 4:01 in the final. Phelps got chicked this weekend in an event where he used to hold the American record.

She really is a once in a generation talent. Thing is, this would have been the golden age of women's distance swimming without her- Becky Adlington, Allison Schmidt, Federica Pellegrini, the late Camille Muffat, Lauren Boyle, Miriela Belmonte....

And then Ledecky blows by that quality group and take it to another dimension.
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Phelps tied Ledecky - 4:02.67....


And Ledecky with a 4:01 in the final. Phelps got chicked this weekend in an event where he used to hold the American record.

She really is a once in a generation talent. Thing is, this would have been the golden age of women's distance swimming without her- Becky Adlington, Allison Schmidt, Federica Pellegrini, the late Camille Muffat, Lauren Boyle, Miriela Belmonte....

And then Ledecky blows by that quality group and take it to another dimension.

While certainly a whippin' she put on Phelps considering...it was also 10 years ago he was the AR holder in that event if memory serves...2005 in Indy maybe? What I found even more impressive was this interview with Conor Dwyer who is near the tip of the spear in 2015 for that event.....who got beat by her in a 3k threshold set. Eh hem. Ouch. She is insanely fun to watch.

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watching the swim both the turnover and the fact that he appeared to be 4th or 5th at one point and came back was pretty impressive but the stroke rate compared to those next to him was bonkers, the comments on swim swam are interesting explaining why it works
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Peaty's legs are soooo quick. he just snaps his heels up to his butt, then snaps back. lots of propulsion, minimal drag.

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