Rumors have been floating around that Kansas 70.3 will become St. Louis 70.3 starting in 2015 (Swim would be in Creve Couer Lake Park for those familiar with the area) Anyone heard anything further on this?
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Interesting. I wonder why. Seemed like it had very good turnouts the last few years. I also thought it was an awesome course. I'm definitely in favor of preserving the more remote races vs. urban ones. I bet the roads in St. Louis are awful.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [zwilson]
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I did Kansas this year and really enjoyed the course, but seeing as I live in St. Louis not having to travel for a race sounds pretty nice as well.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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jph437 wrote:
Rumors have been floating around that Kansas 70.3 will become St. Louis 70.3 starting in 2015 (Swim would be in Creve Couer Lake Park for those familiar with the area) Anyone heard anything further on this?I was wondering when that part of the country would get some Ironman (or Challenge) love. I wonder what time of year...can pretty hot and muggy in the summer.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Swimming in Creve Couer Lake would be a lot better than Clinton Lake. It still gets a lot of wind and could be choppy waters but the shore is much easier to sight.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Seems like a logistical nightmare to me. Athletes would need to be shuttled from offsite parking (casino?). Where in the world would the bike go? I'm not saying IM wouldn't do something like this, but it doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [cbritri]
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Boooooo. This was a great race in a great venue. I loved camping out with hundreds of other athletes and running through the campgrounds with crowds cheering the whole way.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Joncolby]
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Joncolby wrote:
Boooooo. This was a great race in a great venue. I loved camping out with hundreds of other athletes and running through the campgrounds with crowds cheering the whole way.Quoted for truth. Don't f#ck this up, Ironman! >:-(
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jayhox]
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Joncolby wrote:
Boooooo. This was a great race in a great venue. I loved camping out with hundreds of other athletes and running through the campgrounds with crowds cheering the whole way.Quoted for truth. Don't f#ck this up, Ironman! >:-(
What's a guy gotta do to keep a streak alive? Did all 3 Branson 70.3 before it dried up. Have done all 7 Kansas 70.3 and it looks like it will go away. Got a Tahoe finisher's shirt from last year, so that's a streak of 1.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Great! Less travel for me! I like the venue. A flat run of two laps on the rec trail, BOOM. There is parking and or grass for Transition on the East side tight to the bluff or the west side at the Soccer complex. There is even a bar at the Mallard Lake Creve Couer Lakehouse for spectators. I'd hang out for six hours if yo served me a beer.
Question about tha anticip[ated bike route. Towards Weldon Sptings on Hwy 94? Don't you have to cross the Page Ave bridge no matter what? Do you see them taking the bike up the bluff to Marine Ave?
As to the question "Why change from KS-70.3"? I would guess they are chasing sponsorship. It could, also, be a regional location thing too. KS used to draw from Colorado. Now with Boulder, why not move to get to more of a Mid-South and Mid-West population?
Question about tha anticip[ated bike route. Towards Weldon Sptings on Hwy 94? Don't you have to cross the Page Ave bridge no matter what? Do you see them taking the bike up the bluff to Marine Ave?
As to the question "Why change from KS-70.3"? I would guess they are chasing sponsorship. It could, also, be a regional location thing too. KS used to draw from Colorado. Now with Boulder, why not move to get to more of a Mid-South and Mid-West population?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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I am in a similar situation for travel as well. I think they could find plenty of parking, may just require them to mow some fields, but they could work around having to shuttle people in from a casino parking lot.
I definitely would expect some miles down on the flats near the park, but there are plenty of opportunities to make the course pretty hilly given the surrounding areas.
I definitely would expect some miles down on the flats near the park, but there are plenty of opportunities to make the course pretty hilly given the surrounding areas.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Kscycler]
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Kscycler wrote:
Jayhox wrote:
Joncolby wrote:
Boooooo. This was a great race in a great venue. I loved camping out with hundreds of other athletes and running through the campgrounds with crowds cheering the whole way.Quoted for truth. Don't f#ck this up, Ironman! >:-(
What's a guy gotta do to keep a streak alive? Did all 3 Branson 70.3 before it dried up. Have done all 7 Kansas 70.3 and it looks like it will go away. Got a Tahoe finisher's shirt from last year, so that's a streak of 1.
Maybe Silverback will pick it up?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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KS 70.3 participation...
For IM standards, not great #'s and definitely not trending the right way...
2014 All Athletes (1,204 Athletes)
2013 All Athletes (1,282 Athletes)
2012 All Athletes (1,471 Athletes)
2011 All Athletes (1,476 Athletes)
Me thinks there's more upside in St Louis..
"Good genes are not a requirement, just the obsession to beat ones brains out daily"...the Griz
For IM standards, not great #'s and definitely not trending the right way...
2014 All Athletes (1,204 Athletes)
2013 All Athletes (1,282 Athletes)
2012 All Athletes (1,471 Athletes)
2011 All Athletes (1,476 Athletes)
Me thinks there's more upside in St Louis..
"Good genes are not a requirement, just the obsession to beat ones brains out daily"...the Griz
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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That is a shame...beautiful place to race. I enjoyed it in 2013.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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jph437 wrote:
Rumors have been floating around that Kansas 70.3 will become St. Louis 70.3 starting in 2015 (Swim would be in Creve Couer Lake Park for those familiar with the area) Anyone heard anything further on this?OH, this would be nice. I need a 70.3 next year before IMWI. I used to run at CC Lake a couple times a week. Would make for a nice, shaded run and I would suspect a very flat bike route.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Joncolby]
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Joncolby wrote:
Kscycler wrote:
Jayhox wrote:
Joncolby wrote:
Boooooo. This was a great race in a great venue. I loved camping out with hundreds of other athletes and running through the campgrounds with crowds cheering the whole way.Quoted for truth. Don't f#ck this up, Ironman! >:-(
What's a guy gotta do to keep a streak alive? Did all 3 Branson 70.3 before it dried up. Have done all 7 Kansas 70.3 and it looks like it will go away. Got a Tahoe finisher's shirt from last year, so that's a streak of 1.
Maybe Silverback will pick it up?
No music (or The Carpenters Greatest Hits, at best) and the pros picking up their awards at a table while everyone is packing their cars is probably not what Ironman is looking for. ;-)
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [zwilson]
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Interesting. I wonder why. Seemed like it had very good turnouts the last few years. I also thought it was an awesome course. I'm definitely in favor of preserving the more remote races vs. urban ones. I bet the roads in St. Louis are awful.Plus even with low turnout, I felt like there were serious logistic and parking issues.
That being said, it was a big breakout race for me, I liked the course, it was very honest, and the multiple turn arounds on the run made for great racing.
But St. Louis shaves 2 hours from the drive for me and we have family in that area.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [motoguy128]
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I have raced Kansas 70.3 for 6 years in a row. I hope it stays and STL is just an additional race.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Snyderman]
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Kansas in the spring and St. Louis in the fall would be an awesome combo (or vice-a-versa)
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Any word on Kansas 70.3 yet?
I know it's supposed to be June 6th or 13th.
I'm planning on doing it next year, but hoping it's the 6th over the 13th (if it happens).
I know it's supposed to be June 6th or 13th.
I'm planning on doing it next year, but hoping it's the 6th over the 13th (if it happens).
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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From a local shop, I heard this is "definitely happening." No idea on the date, but they also confirmed the swim would be in Creve Coeur lake.
jph437 wrote:
Rumors have been floating around that Kansas 70.3 will become St. Louis 70.3 starting in 2015 (Swim would be in Creve Couer Lake Park for those familiar with the area) Anyone heard anything further on this?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [cbritri]
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Back in the early 90s (I think), there was a Bud Light series race (I think) where the swim was in Creve Coeur lake. If I remember correctly, it was staged at the old Riverport Amphitheatre, which is only about a mile or so away. Plenty of parking there.
I would guess the bike would go over into St. Charles county around the New Town area. Plenty of less-traveled roads over there. Wherever it goes, it would likely be a pretty darn flat race.
I would guess the bike would go over into St. Charles county around the New Town area. Plenty of less-traveled roads over there. Wherever it goes, it would likely be a pretty darn flat race.
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Seems like a logistical nightmare to me. Athletes would need to be shuttled from offsite parking (casino?). Where in the world would the bike go? I'm not saying IM wouldn't do something like this, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [chonser]
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I heard that this year's Kansas race had too many men in speedos on the podium, so they are considering an alternate race site to discourage that non-sense
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [m.a.burghart]
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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I'll just add a few brief opinions. Before last year when I moved I did about 95% of my run/bike training in the park mentioned, Creve Couer Park. First, I think this seems off because I have never seen anybody swim in the lake and I think there are signs that say no swimming. I think because it is dirty or unsafe but maybe that is not true. If anybody else knows the area well they could chime in but in a brief thought I would assume you would do a small loop of some sort on river valley drive, hog hollow, creve couer mill, and marine taking page across the bridge (blocking one or two lanes as it is a massive bridge with little traffic on a weekend morning and then going either east to st. charles and a loop in the new town area or going west and doing a river bottom loop but I think the new town idea is better. More thinking about this would lead me to take the express east from creve couer lake (river earth expressway and ride in the flats to the east, I don't ride there but i'm sure you could. If the lake is clean, the bike gets sorted out, I can only think off one or two minor issues getting north to st charles flat area or finding areas, the run would be fabulous, great path. I would say two 5.5 mile loops around both the big and small lake plus a little extra that the course would be mostly flat river bottoms, with slight wind but not much in the mornings with a great run (half shade) and only 5 minutes from my house.
Other than that, there is Innsbrook that I have raced at many times and is a great location and looks like they are adding a 70.3 this year too...so not sure what to expect.
Other than that, there is Innsbrook that I have raced at many times and is a great location and looks like they are adding a 70.3 this year too...so not sure what to expect.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jayhox]
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Jayhox wrote:
m.a.burghart wrote:
I heard that this year's Kansas race had too many men in speedos on the podium, so they are considering an alternate race site to discourage that non-senseI have no problem with speedos.
I do not now, nor have I ever, understood the half-shirt thing. To me (emphasize this is just MY opinion), the half-shirt looks one thousand times more stupid than a speedo.
can someone explain what is the FUNCTION of the half shirt? Or is it simply another example of fashion that goes over my head?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [shikailun]
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They hosted a 70.3 out there this year with an attendance of 116 (an ultramax event which included a half, oly, sprint, aqua bike). IMO ultramax is going to drive Innsbrook into the ground. I thought the bike course was poorly designed and the run was brutal as usual. There are not a ton of hotel options close to Innsbrook, so I don't see this being an option for WTC.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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jph437 wrote:
They hosted a 70.3 out there this year with an attendance of 116 (an ultramax event which included a half, oly, sprint, aqua bike). IMO ultramax is going to drive Innsbrook into the ground. I thought the bike course was poorly designed and the run was brutal as usual. There are not a ton of hotel options close to Innsbrook, so I don't see this being an option for WTC.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TJ56]
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jph437 wrote:
I think Innsbruck is a great location for triathlon. You won't find a better lake in all of the St. Louis area to swim in. Unfortunately it suffers from the same fate as Branson. Too hard (the run)!I did all three 70.3 Branson and the run was dead flat the whole way. The bike was hard, but the run was easy...
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Kscycler]
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I did the Border Wars Tri in Alton a few weeks ago as part of a relay and FLAT may be an understatement. According to my Garmin, I had a total elevation gain of 310 feet for the 56 mile bike and most of that was going over the Mississippi river bridge into Alton.
The run course was on top of the levee so it was pretty pancake flat as well.
The run course was on top of the levee so it was pretty pancake flat as well.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [huskertko]
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I did the Border Wars Tri in Alton a few weeks ago .How was this event?
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Kscycler]
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Kscycler wrote:
jph437 wrote:
I think Innsbruck is a great location for triathlon. You won't find a better lake in all of the St. Louis area to swim in. Unfortunately it suffers from the same fate as Branson. Too hard (the run)!I did all three 70.3 Branson and the run was dead flat the whole way. The bike was hard, but the run was easy...
x2 on the Branson run course. I did the 70.3 in 2010 and 2012. Run was pancake flat both times, but it was unbearably hot in 2010. 2012 was much better with temps in the upper 70's.
Got word from Rev3 that they (and the newly minted Challenge series) will not return to Branson in 2015. Any word on other organizers stepping up to host a race in Branson?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriBrad02]
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For a first time event, it was very well organized, I thought. There are a couple logistically things, the swim is in a location that without a mile or so walk, is inaccessible to spectators, which is kinda bad. The swim was in a slough of the river, and was really low on Saturday, and water temp was 72, but by Sunday the level was up a little, there were people still walking the swim on the backside of the loop, but the temp had dropped from 72 to 58, quite a shock.
Like I said the bike couse is FLAT, but the roads were nice, the turns were very well marked by paint and volunteer. While most of the roads weren't closed, the general public was pretty accomodating to the race, with a couple of exceptions.
The run from what my wife said was again dead flat along the levee, with a few hills up and down off the levee. Her biggest complaints were, a couple aid stations ran out of water, and the other was that it wa a very "lonely" run. Being on the levee, there were virtually no spectators so aside from other runners, not much encouragements.
The finish area was nice in the fact it was in a park with an ampitheater, I think that having a large centralized tent for spectators/athlete would have been nice. There were a lot of clubs and teams that had tents up as well. They would be well served to get another timing mat further down the finishing chute so they had a better idea of who was finishing, they tried to announce names from bib numbers but not the greatest success.
Post race food was good, BBQ, but being from KC it's hard to top hometown BBQ.
Overall, I thought it was a good race, and the public support was great. Work out a few kinks and this could be a really nice race. We plan on going back next year.
The real X factor will be the weather, the first week in October is iffy in this region. Saturday it windy, gusting to 30mph from the north, wind chill felt like the 30s, but Sunday was awesome. 50s at the start, 60s finishing, with very little wind.
Like I said the bike couse is FLAT, but the roads were nice, the turns were very well marked by paint and volunteer. While most of the roads weren't closed, the general public was pretty accomodating to the race, with a couple of exceptions.
The run from what my wife said was again dead flat along the levee, with a few hills up and down off the levee. Her biggest complaints were, a couple aid stations ran out of water, and the other was that it wa a very "lonely" run. Being on the levee, there were virtually no spectators so aside from other runners, not much encouragements.
The finish area was nice in the fact it was in a park with an ampitheater, I think that having a large centralized tent for spectators/athlete would have been nice. There were a lot of clubs and teams that had tents up as well. They would be well served to get another timing mat further down the finishing chute so they had a better idea of who was finishing, they tried to announce names from bib numbers but not the greatest success.
Post race food was good, BBQ, but being from KC it's hard to top hometown BBQ.
Overall, I thought it was a good race, and the public support was great. Work out a few kinks and this could be a really nice race. We plan on going back next year.
The real X factor will be the weather, the first week in October is iffy in this region. Saturday it windy, gusting to 30mph from the north, wind chill felt like the 30s, but Sunday was awesome. 50s at the start, 60s finishing, with very little wind.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [huskertko]
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For a first time event, it was very well organized, I thought. There are a couple logistically things, the swim is in a location that without a mile or so walk, is inaccessible to spectators, which is kinda bad. The swim was in a slough of the river, and was really low on Saturday, and water temp was 72, but by Sunday the level was up a little, there were people still walking the swim on the backside of the loop, but the temp had dropped from 72 to 58, quite a shock. Like I said the bike couse is FLAT, but the roads were nice, the turns were very well marked by paint and volunteer. While most of the roads weren't closed, the general public was pretty accomodating to the race, with a couple of exceptions.
The run from what my wife said was again dead flat along the levee, with a few hills up and down off the levee. Her biggest complaints were, a couple aid stations ran out of water, and the other was that it wa a very "lonely" run. Being on the levee, there were virtually no spectators so aside from other runners, not much encouragements.
The finish area was nice in the fact it was in a park with an ampitheater, I think that having a large centralized tent for spectators/athlete would have been nice. There were a lot of clubs and teams that had tents up as well. They would be well served to get another timing mat further down the finishing chute so they had a better idea of who was finishing, they tried to announce names from bib numbers but not the greatest success.
Post race food was good, BBQ, but being from KC it's hard to top hometown BBQ.
Overall, I thought it was a good race, and the public support was great. Work out a few kinks and this could be a really nice race. We plan on going back next year.
The real X factor will be the weather, the first week in October is iffy in this region. Saturday it windy, gusting to 30mph from the north, wind chill felt like the 30s, but Sunday was awesome. 50s at the start, 60s finishing, with very little wind.
Cool. Thanks for your time in writing this.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [huskertko]
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huskertko wrote:
For a first time event, it was very well organized, I thought. There are a couple logistically things, the swim is in a location that without a mile or so walk, is inaccessible to spectators, which is kinda bad. The swim was in a slough of the river, and was really low on Saturday, and water temp was 72, but by Sunday the level was up a little, there were people still walking the swim on the backside of the loop, but the temp had dropped from 72 to 58, quite a shock. Like I said the bike couse is FLAT, but the roads were nice, the turns were very well marked by paint and volunteer. While most of the roads weren't closed, the general public was pretty accomodating to the race, with a couple of exceptions.
The run from what my wife said was again dead flat along the levee, with a few hills up and down off the levee. Her biggest complaints were, a couple aid stations ran out of water, and the other was that it wa a very "lonely" run. Being on the levee, there were virtually no spectators so aside from other runners, not much encouragements.
The finish area was nice in the fact it was in a park with an ampitheater, I think that having a large centralized tent for spectators/athlete would have been nice. There were a lot of clubs and teams that had tents up as well. They would be well served to get another timing mat further down the finishing chute so they had a better idea of who was finishing, they tried to announce names from bib numbers but not the greatest success.
Post race food was good, BBQ, but being from KC it's hard to top hometown BBQ.
Overall, I thought it was a good race, and the public support was great. Work out a few kinks and this could be a really nice race. We plan on going back next year.
The real X factor will be the weather, the first week in October is iffy in this region. Saturday it windy, gusting to 30mph from the north, wind chill felt like the 30s, but Sunday was awesome. 50s at the start, 60s finishing, with very little wind.
I did this event too, and this review is pretty dead on. I personally thought it was great, and it seemed the RD was really trying to focus on the athletes and pay attention to detail. What I take from this is that I am pretty confident that some of the "issues" that occurred will be specifically addressed. I've been to many events where the RD doesn't seem to care too much and seems to cut corners. Not so with RMP (and I had no experience with them before). My other 70.3 experience is with PEM in NOLA and this race was easily as well run at NOLA, probably better. (That's not saying NOLA was bad in any way....just trying to relay the quality of the event).
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Recoverie]
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I really enjoyed Branson in 2012. The run was flat but I enjoyed the route through The Landing. Best bike course I have ever done for a 70.3. I don't see it returning, but I would go back if it did.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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They would close page ave and ride - in part - on it.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [slowfatguy]
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I did Branson the first year it was held and again last year when it was Rev3.
Such a perfect race location and course. The bike is killer, but how often do you get to roll on a closed 4 lane highway?
Fantastic place for a race and a little family vacation for sure.
Such a perfect race location and course. The bike is killer, but how often do you get to roll on a closed 4 lane highway?
Fantastic place for a race and a little family vacation for sure.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Word going around is: The race will happen in 2015. It will replace Kansas. If you look at the Kansas 70.3 web page, you'll notice a lack of date and a lack of ability to sign up, there is a reason for this: Kansas is done. The swim will be at CC Park. The bike is not set yet, but will probably remain in one "county". The reason to remain in one county is that you don't want to inflict the traffic "pain" on neighboring communities, when they aren't benefiting from any of the revenue generate by the race. The run will most likely be around the park on the outer loop.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mfisch69]
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mfisch69 wrote:
Word going around is: The race will happen in 2015. It will replace Kansas. If you look at the Kansas 70.3 web page, you'll notice a lack of date and a lack of ability to sign up, there is a reason for this: Kansas is done. The swim will be at CC Park. The bike is not set yet, but will probably remain in one "county". The reason to remain in one county is that you don't want to inflict the traffic "pain" on neighboring communities, when they aren't benefiting from any of the revenue generate by the race. The run will most likely be around the park on the outer loop.Any word on the time frame? Still early June?
For me St. Louis doubles my drive time, but I'd be willing to check it out if it were in the fall. I can only do Redman so many times.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mfisch69]
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What's this area/course potentially going to look like? Not so much in terms of course difficulty, but scenery. In other words, am I more likely to be biking up a paved, tree-lined highway or a chip sealed county road, industrial park?
I get the desire to tap the StL market but I fear course surroundings would be sacrificed compared to Clinton Lake/NE KS.
I get the desire to tap the StL market but I fear course surroundings would be sacrificed compared to Clinton Lake/NE KS.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Kscycler]
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Clarification:
Branson - too hard of a bike.
Innsbruck - too hard of a run.
I did all three Bransons and all three Innsbrucks. They both have to rate right up there with the toughest 70.3s in the nation. That is why they didn't survive (jury is out on Innsbruck's resurrection).
For the new STL 70.3 to be successful they will need to stay away from the bluffs for both the bike and run.
Branson - too hard of a bike.
Innsbruck - too hard of a run.
I did all three Bransons and all three Innsbrucks. They both have to rate right up there with the toughest 70.3s in the nation. That is why they didn't survive (jury is out on Innsbruck's resurrection).
For the new STL 70.3 to be successful they will need to stay away from the bluffs for both the bike and run.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TJ56]
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If it's at CC Lake, the run can just be around the lake. The full loop (5.5 miles or so I think) is flat and mostly shaded. Part of it is gravel and in complete shade through the woods. It is your typical "narrow" two lane bike path, but I guess that would be wide enough. Would be a very nice run for sure.
Not sure about where the bike would go, but I'd bet you could avoid the bluff pretty easily.
Not sure about where the bike would go, but I'd bet you could avoid the bluff pretty easily.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mfisch69]
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mfisch69 wrote:
Word going around is: The race will happen in 2015. It will replace Kansas. If you look at the Kansas 70.3 web page, you'll notice a lack of date and a lack of ability to sign up, there is a reason for this: Kansas is done. The swim will be at CC Park. The bike is not set yet, but will probably remain in one "county". The reason to remain in one county is that you don't want to inflict the traffic "pain" on neighboring communities, when they aren't benefiting from any of the revenue generate by the race. The run will most likely be around the park on the outer loop.Just speculate...Where do you thik the bike course should go?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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I would love if the timing worked out where I could do the new St. Louis one and also Muncie 70.3 and then cap it off with IMLOU
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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I heard it will be a point to point with two transition areas. T2 will be in Ferguson.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Sir.Vaylo]
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Aaaaaaand there it is. I was going to suggest an out and back to Ferguson, but resisted. ;-)
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Kansas 70.3 was my favorite race, great atmosphere, honest course, good feel, and always well run. But i guess the fatties could not handle the "hills", "wind", and "heat" and St Louis is the obvious next choice for a new 70.3. So glad i just road race now and don't care too much about Tri's because if this is true that is really sad. Branson and Kansas were two of my favorite courses and one is gone and the other appears on the way out. Guess BSLT and Tahoe better watch out, they are the only real courses left inside the US.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [slowfatguy]
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slowfatguy wrote:
I really enjoyed Branson in 2012. The run was flat but I enjoyed the route through The Landing. Best bike course I have ever done for a 70.3. I don't see it returning, but I would go back if it did.Yes, I enjoyed it, too. Once I learned from my bike leg mistake in 2010 (went too fast), I came back in 2012 and rode conservatively. Really loved that bike course! I ended up improving on my overall time by 12 minutes. I sure wish they would bring this back to Branson. The three loop run around Branson Landing was ideal from a spectator point of view.
Why won't Ironman sponsor Branson again? Rev3 said they are not doing Branson in 2015.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [lisac957]
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my understanding is that it would be the same weekend when Kansas would have been. just basically swapping STL in for Kan.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Barkeep]
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The roads in and around this area are in pretty good shape, one potential road is less than 2 years old and in great shape (poured concrete, smooth as butter). Roads are not chip-seal, but actual paving. You could see anything from farmland to tree lined roads. Not a heavily industrial area. The route would probably be more residential than KS, but it would be pretty hard to be less. Options available could make this a pretty nice ride. But, as for flat vs. hilly, it really depends on which way they go, both options are available and close.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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TriWithT1 wrote:
I did Branson the first year it was held and again last year when it was Rev3. Such a perfect race location and course. The bike is killer, but how often do you get to roll on a closed 4 lane highway?
Fantastic place for a race and a little family vacation for sure.
Totally agree with this. Flat but HIGH ENERGY run through the landing and finish. My kids hung out at the funnel cake kiosk and watched me run by a few times. One of my favorite courses, can't understand why it couldn't draw more people...... wait, over 5,000 feet of climbing on the bike....bunch of flat land p___ies can't deal with a few hills and can't deal with not going sub 5, sub 6 on a 70.3 OK rant over.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TrierinKC]
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Branson was awesome! Once a person just rides conservatively on those hills, the run is a piece of cake, since it's all flat. Like someone else said, how often do you get to roll on a closed four lane highway? It was well organized, the volunteers were outstanding, swim was sweet. Sure wish someone would bring it back.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Barkeep]
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The largest medal in the world!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Barkeep]
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Barkeep wrote:
I'd say it's a safe bet that KS 70.3 is no more based on this new race: http://www.legendtri.com/[/quote
What new race? Is something listed somewhere for St. Louis? I still see kansas on the website and nothing about St. Louis.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jbinkc08]
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I think he was just suggesting that since this race is the same date at the same place, that Kansas 70.3 would no longer exist.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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I am just looking for a link to something official about this new St. Louis race. I live in Kansas City and am trying to plan out my 2015 schedule so I would like to know if this race is really going to happen. I don't mind going to a new venue, just wan to know!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jbinkc08]
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I live in (near) St. Louis and want to know too!!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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There has been no announcement yet, but it should be any day now. With the strong rumors, the Legend Tri site going live, it seems like all the wheels are in motion. The Legend Site is more than a placeholder page...there was some prep done in getting it live, which would indicate that things are moving behind the scenes pretty well. I would think something would go live in the next 2 weeks (actually any day) registration would start very soon.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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TriWithT1 wrote:
The largest medal in the world!It will be hard to top this one....3.3 lbs
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [dprocket]
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Hope the announcement for St. Louis happens soon.
I'd love to be able to book end the season with Boulder 70.3 and this one in the fall.
I'd love to be able to book end the season with Boulder 70.3 and this one in the fall.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mbb2486]
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Rode around the lake last night after my first MTB visit to Bootleggers run. Looking out upon the lake I was trying to figure out if they could make the swim one loop. What do you think?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TJ56]
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TJ56 wrote:
Rode around the lake last night after my first MTB visit to Bootleggers run. Looking out upon the lake I was trying to figure out if they could make the swim one loop. What do you think?I would think so. Pretty big lake.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [stringcheese]
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They are big for sure
Have 3 years of them
It will be hard to top this one....3.3 lbs
Have 3 years of them
stringcheese wrote:
TriWithT1 wrote:
The largest medal in the world!It will be hard to top this one....3.3 lbs
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Kylebutler]
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Weekend bump.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mbb2486]
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [chonser]
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mbb2486]
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I'm good with a hilly bike... as long as it's followed by a nice, flat, shaded run. Hello Creve Coeur Lake!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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I thought they'd take the bike course through Sunset Hills. Really a missed opportunity there.
http://www.stltoday.com/...d7-400161fb713e.html
I wonder if that professor from St Louis will be volunteering at this event and then sue WTC?
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http://www.stltoday.com/...d7-400161fb713e.html
I wonder if that professor from St Louis will be volunteering at this event and then sue WTC?
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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Just saw a big package on the local NBC station about "the Ironman Corporation eyeing St. Louis". They barely - and I mean BARELY - mentioned that it would be a Half. Didn't really confirm anything, but mentioned that the Kansas contract was up and that they typically sign a 3 year contract.
The spot featured a local triathlete running at Creve Coeur Lake.
So..... I didn't learn anything more than I've read here. ;-)
The spot featured a local triathlete running at Creve Coeur Lake.
So..... I didn't learn anything more than I've read here. ;-)
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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I saw it too.
http://www.ksdk.com/...n-eyes-stl/18159509/
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http://www.ksdk.com/...n-eyes-stl/18159509/
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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With the latest email from ultramax we know this race will not be replacing the quartermax (70.3) which has been held at Innsbrook in June.
"Want to test your improvement throughout the season join us for the Quartermaxand Octomax Triathlon(s) on June 27th and then again in September for the Championship Weekend!"
"Want to test your improvement throughout the season join us for the Quartermaxand Octomax Triathlon(s) on June 27th and then again in September for the Championship Weekend!"
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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It would be nice if they picked a late May weekend so that it was wetsuit legal and hopefully cooler. Plus they also wouldn't step on other local tris in late June but I guess that is what they are know for doing.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Quartermax is an olympic distance event. Their Halfmax race is the 70.3 distance.
"Want to test your improvement throughout the season join us for the Quartermaxand Octomax Triathlon(s) on June 27th and then again in September for the Championship Weekend!"
jph437 wrote:
With the latest email from ultramax we know this race will not be replacing the quartermax (70.3) which has been held at Innsbrook in June. "Want to test your improvement throughout the season join us for the Quartermaxand Octomax Triathlon(s) on June 27th and then again in September for the Championship Weekend!"
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [chonser]
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Sorry guys, it's my fault. Ran Branson in 2012 and Kansas in 2014. Just call me the race killer.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [awesome.x]
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awesome.x wrote:
Sorry guys, it's my fault. Ran Branson in 2012 and Kansas in 2014. Just call me the race killer.I feel your pain. I have only done four half iron tris. Three no longer exist.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [awesome.x]
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I was at the last Branson and the last Kansas as well. Throw in the last summer version of Louisville last year for good measure.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [slowfatguy]
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slowfatguy wrote:
I was at the last Branson and the last Kansas as well. Throw in the last summer version of Louisville last year for good measure....and we shall call him the terminator.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [awesome.x]
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Anything firm yet?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [pedal-boy]
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According to a City of Wildwood posted memo...looks like June 7th.
Here's an attached link to the memo:
http://www.cityofwildwood.com/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/2127?fileID=3097
Here's an attached link to the memo:
http://www.cityofwildwood.com/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/2127?fileID=3097
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mjswing]
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Great find!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mjswing]
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mjswing wrote:
According to a City of Wildwood posted memo...looks like June 7th. Here's an attached link to the memo:
http://www.cityofwildwood.com/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/2127?fileID=3097
That makes it official... they used the term "half ironman" so it's can't be a Challenge or other brand event. It would be called a "half distance" race unless you want WTC lawyers knocking on your door.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [motoguy128]
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It also mentions "Ironman Officials" in the doc, so there ya go.
It even has the bike route!
It even has the bike route!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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TriWithT1 wrote:
It also mentions "Ironman Officials" in the doc, so there ya go. It even has the bike route!
It says the bike route goes through Wildwood, Chesterfield and Ellisville. Start and finish is assumed to be at Lake Creve Coeur. Can anybody familiar with the area say how hilly this bike course will be, and how it might compare to Kansas?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mbwallis]
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Simple answer on the bike course terrain......HILLY......
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Tri-Wog StL]
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Tri-Wog StL wrote:
Simple answer on the bike course terrain......HILLY......What he said.
Just threw this into MapMyRide as a rough guess based on the map in that doc. 2024 ft. gain. Looking pretty awesome as an IMWI prep race!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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Just finished routing a best guess (there must be some looping being done in the flats near the lake to expand mileage but)....I get 2200 ft of climbing over the 50 miles I figured out.....a bunch of this ride is hilly, period. The ONLY flats will be down by the lake itself.....the climb up to Hwy T will be noteworthy...UNLESS they reverse this then we will all be re-acquainted with Doberman Hill......and I don't remember that in a pleasant fashion......
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Tri-Wog StL]
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Wow! Just found this thread! Yeah, that bike will be HILLY!! That whole area in Wildwood... beast mode for sure. Make sure you have the correct rear crank set up. I wonder if they'll have riders go up Hog Hollow just for kicks while they're at it. Fingers crossed that this happens - could be really cool!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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Can someone share a link to the MMR routes? Curious to see how bad the hills would really be in comparison to what Kansas was.
Edit: Took some time last night to put in a best guess based on the map provided in the Wildwood doc. Feel free to take a look: http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/581465450
Edit: Took some time last night to put in a best guess based on the map provided in the Wildwood doc. Feel free to take a look: http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/581465450
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mjswing]
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Very interesting. Thank you for posting the link. I like the fact that the second memo is in Comic Sans.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jonathan22]
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Two recent developments inching us closer to an official announcement:
(1) Ironman 70.3 Kansas has disappeared from the listing of 70.3 events. Up until a week or so ago, it was still listed, though the dated was "TBD".
(2) The City of Wildwood's city council apparently approved on Monday night the resolution in support of the event. http://www.cityofwildwood.com/...tem/2294?fileID=3302
(1) Ironman 70.3 Kansas has disappeared from the listing of 70.3 events. Up until a week or so ago, it was still listed, though the dated was "TBD".
(2) The City of Wildwood's city council apparently approved on Monday night the resolution in support of the event. http://www.cityofwildwood.com/...tem/2294?fileID=3302
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jim @ LOTO, MO]
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Jim @ LOTO, MO wrote:
Two recent developments inching us closer to an official announcement: (1) Ironman 70.3 Kansas has disappeared from the listing of 70.3 events. Up until a week or so ago, it was still listed, though the dated was "TBD".
(2) The City of Wildwood's city council apparently approved on Monday night the resolution in support of the event. http://www.cityofwildwood.com/...tem/2294?fileID=3302
My understanding was that StL was a year away. Someone at WTC named Liz Kollar has contacted Tri Clubs and said not to expect a STL 70.3 in 2015. I wish they'd announce something. "A guy's gotta plan his season, ya know".
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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I love how the employees at WTC/Ironman are described.
I even think Bryan Myrick (RD for Raleigh, Muncie and Chattanooga) had a shirt made up that said "Some WTC guy"
Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
I even think Bryan Myrick (RD for Raleigh, Muncie and Chattanooga) had a shirt made up that said "Some WTC guy"
Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [japarker24]
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japarker24 wrote:
I love how the employees at WTC/Ironman are described. I even think Bryan Myrick (RD for Raleigh, Muncie and Chattanooga) had a shirt made up that said "Some WTC guy"
I think when your a full time paid employee of a corporation, the expectations change vs. a volunteer race director when you have a consistent "face" to put towards an event. Plus, in this case, the customer is often fairly well connected an informed and you get the impression that there's little attempt at transparency.
It would be like a chemical supplier like Dupont not keeping their customers informed about a plant shutdown, yet in in the WSJ, there's an article where and interview with the VP of operations discusses the closure of several plants. You stop giving the company the benefit of the doubt and treat them with some suspicion.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jim @ LOTO, MO]
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Awesome! I hope we hear something official soon. I am starting to plan my season. I have friends in St. Charles and in Soulard so I wouldn't have to pay mongo $$ for a hotel! :)
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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Liz Kollar
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [ScottWrigleyFit]
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http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/10/29/ironman-competition-eyes-stl/18159509/
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [sbutler96]
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TL;DW version of this?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [sbutler96]
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [sbutler96]
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sbutler96 wrote:
Liz Kollar Meant the "Too Long, Didn't Watch" version on this. What did she say?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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It was just blah blah. Just posted to point out who she is, Director of Athlete Development and Communications World Triathlon Corporation
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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I just got off the phone with athlete services and the Ironman representative indicated neither kansas nor saint louis are having a 70.3 event in 2015. So, whatever that means......
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mrenieri]
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The race was pulled from Kansas with the expectation that it would be an easy move over to St. Louis. However, there were some problems getting all the necessary municipalities to sign off on the course and, let's not forget, that St. Louis had some less than flattering rioting in the last few months. Regardless of the fact that the area of conflict is nowhere near the race site, the PR wasn't exactly going in a direction that IM or St. Louis really felt was ideal. There will be no IM 70.3 in St. Louis in 2015, but there is an oral agreement (for whatever that's worth) in place for 2016.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mfisch69]
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Booo. This was basically a gift to me as a prep for IMWI next year, since I live in the STL area.
Guess I'll be doing the Tour de Cure Century ride instead now. It would've been the Saturday before the "proposed" date.
Guess I'll be doing the Tour de Cure Century ride instead now. It would've been the Saturday before the "proposed" date.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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I am pretty bummed about Ironman Kansas 70.3 being canceled. I cut my teeth on that one and raced it 6 years in a row. Now there is not an Ironman branded event within a 9 hour drive of Kansas City. I certainly race non-WTC events too, but I also like racing IM events. Looks like a cool race called the Legends Tri in Lawrence on June 6-ish to replace Kansas. Even has a 100 mile race (2 mile swim, 80 bike & 18 mile run). Hopefully STL will happen in 2016.
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Snyderman]
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I feel exactly the same way about Kansas. I think there were only two of us left that had raced it all 7 times...that happened at Branson as well, raced it all 3 times and it went TU, too....
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mfisch69]
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What a bummer. I had planned on Kansas, then St. Louis, now neither will happen. They shouldn't have killed Kansas until St. Louis was a sure thing.
I guess it'll be Buffalo Springs again.
I guess it'll be Buffalo Springs again.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Snyderman]
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Come on up to IM 70.3 Steelhead! Great race and a good tune up for IM Wisconsin! Z
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [jph437]
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Does anyone still want to swim in Creve Coeur lake after seeing this?
http://www.cnn.com/...ying-carp-feat-irpt/
http://www.cnn.com/...ying-carp-feat-irpt/
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [gwaveswims]
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mclousing]
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mclousing wrote:
Has anyone heard anything on this, is it completely dead or is it just on life support? Edit to say dead for 2015, but wondering about 2016
I'm wondering the same thing. Any scuttlebut?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [mclousing]
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Would be nice to know for 2016's plans!
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [M Ernst]
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I'd bet that the issues with Creve Coeur Lake would be a huge roadblock for this - at least how it was being planned.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [imsoulrebel]
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Nothing on Ironman.com. I too wonder if 2016 will happen.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [TriWithT1]
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I came across this website today...
http://stlouistriathlon.com/event-info
Looks like a sprint/oly test event maybe? or perhaps they have given up on the 70.3 idea and are just going to do shorter races. They picked a crappy weekend, another local oly has been the weekend before Memorial day for the last couple of years at least. Why do RDs like to stack races on the same weekend? Hopefully Gateway will move their event up or back.
http://stlouistriathlon.com/event-info
Looks like a sprint/oly test event maybe? or perhaps they have given up on the 70.3 idea and are just going to do shorter races. They picked a crappy weekend, another local oly has been the weekend before Memorial day for the last couple of years at least. Why do RDs like to stack races on the same weekend? Hopefully Gateway will move their event up or back.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [tfleeger]
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Now that we're into 2016, is there any scuttlebutt going around in St. Louis about this long-rumored race? One would think that If it were going to be held this summer, we would have heard something by now. (I don't hold out much hope, especially with the recent cancellation of other WTC races.)
Has anybody heard anything?
Has anybody heard anything?
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jim @ LOTO, MO]
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I haven't heard anything.
Maybe the guys who are hosting the St. Louis Triathlon this spring are hoping they can evolve the race/course to the 70.3 distance and sell to WTC. I am speculating with no real background.
Maybe the guys who are hosting the St. Louis Triathlon this spring are hoping they can evolve the race/course to the 70.3 distance and sell to WTC. I am speculating with no real background.
Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jim @ LOTO, MO]
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I've been getting emails from them every couple weeks. It's happening May 22. olympic distance and i think a sprint distance also. I think the website has all the details
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Re: 2015 Ironman 70.3 - St. Louis [Jim @ LOTO, MO]
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Jim @ LOTO, MO wrote:
Now that we're into 2016, is there any scuttlebutt going around in St. Louis about this long-rumored race? One would think that If it were going to be held this summer, we would have heard something by now. (I don't hold out much hope, especially with the recent cancellation of other WTC races.) Has anybody heard anything?
Sorry for quick derailment - I see you do not have the Ogre 150 on your race calendar April 30. Just a heads up.
Back to regularly scheduled programming.
Thanks for letting me knowing about the OGRE. I haven't see Dan since summer, when he told me he wanted to bring it back in 2016. I'll put it on the calendar.