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Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for?
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I finished Ironman Steelhead last Sunday. Upon crossing this finish line, I was info informed that they ran out of medals and it would be mailed to me at some point in the future.

Reading some of the threads that I have read, it seems to be a trend that M-Dot frequently does not order enough medals and then takes forever to ship them out to people.

So, it begs the (slightly rhetorical) question. If I completed a race, would it be wrong for me to order a medal off Ebay for that race?

http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item3a956ee210
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn't on principle. The idea of paying for something I rightfully earned just seems wrong to me.

Instead, I'd be sending a nastygram every day to WTC asking "hey, so where's my medal?"; make them remedy their mistake.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Have you seen Shawshank Redemption?

Write WTC one message every day. Every day until they send you what you want. Feel free to find as many e-mail addresses as you can over there, and CC every one on your request. Until you get what you paid for.

Buying a medal would me a last resort. You could ask someone here if they'd donate theirs if they don't care that much for medals? I'd do that before I bought one.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Wrong? No
Stupid? yes

Guess I just got lucky, probably 10 WTC events and never had this happen, or to any of my friends.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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Do you really want the medal that badly? Like others said, email them until you get one.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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If you want it, just buy it and don't worry about what anyone else has to say.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
If you want it, just buy it and don't worry about what anyone else has to say.

I tend to agree with this. If it came to it, I'd rather buy it than spend the time and energy trying to track it down. It's a battle that you might win, but will not change anything on their end.

Medals are cool, especially for big events. I'd take a medal over at an ugly t-shirt or I'll fitting running cap anytime.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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At least you now know how much those things are worth, $59.99 plus shipping.

I guess you could buy that one and bill them for the cost of it. I'm sure they'd be ok with
that arrangement.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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I suspect that someone on this forum would be happy to send you theirs if you cover the shipping.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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The fact that 5 people are are watching that item at $59.99 is absurd. It cost $2.87 cents to make, even less given the quantity IM buys from the manufacturer.

On a side note, at Raleigh that finisher hats never arrived and I got mine a week or so ago.

On another side note, since the medals come from china you don't know if they shorted the order, lost a few boxes or just messed up. At one of our recents races we were short 1,000 shirts out of 59,000 ordered. We found them on a truck a day later that was not fully unloaded. Being on the other side I know stuff happens but as long as they make it right you'll be ok.

Sending an e-mail every day will not help your cause.

Out of curiosity, what do you want to do with the medal that you want to buy one?
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [spider] [ In reply to ]
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spider wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
If you want it, just buy it and don't worry about what anyone else has to say.

I tend to agree with this. If it came to it, I'd rather buy it than spend the time and energy trying to track it down. It's a battle that you might win, but will not change anything on their end.

Medals are cool, especially for big events. I'd take a medal over at an ugly t-shirt or I'll fitting running cap anytime.

$59 is ridiculous. I wouldn't pay that
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [spider] [ In reply to ]
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+1 times 1000. If it is worth it to you, just buy it. The price paid will be far far below the anger and frustrations you may face trying to get one in the mail from WTC.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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What does a wtc half iron cost these days out of curiosity?
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Reading some of the threads that I have read, it seems to be a trend that M-Dot frequently does not order enough medals and then takes forever to ship them out to people.


Is there any reason that you need the medal now, as opposed to a month from now?

(And, I'm not sure that this is a 'trend of not ordering enough medals')






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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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It's wrong for you to have to do so. Why not just wait?




Garibaldi wrote:
I finished Ironman Steelhead last Sunday. Upon crossing this finish line, I was info informed that they ran out of medals and it would be mailed to me at some point in the future.

Reading some of the threads that I have read, it seems to be a trend that M-Dot frequently does not order enough medals and then takes forever to ship them out to people.

So, it begs the (slightly rhetorical) question. If I completed a race, would it be wrong for me to order a medal off Ebay for that race?

http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item3a956ee210

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [lightheir] [ In reply to ]
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lightheir wrote:
I suspect that someone on this forum would be happy to send you theirs if you cover the shipping.

^^^THIS. There are a lot of (generous) people on here who couldn't care less about that medal. Start a thread titled "Steelhead 2014 Finishers Medal". I'm sure somebody will come forward and give you theirs.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [anitan1] [ In reply to ]
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You could have mine from Racine. Hope that helps.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Recenly I left my IM Florida 2006 finisher(my 1st IM) hat in a restaurant and nobody turned it in.

I will trawl eBay and sites occasionally as I would like a replacement.

If you earned it you have a right to it, although give WTC time to mail it to you.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [linhardt] [ In reply to ]
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linhardt wrote:
Recenly I left my IM Florida 2006 finisher(my 1st IM) hat in a restaurant and nobody turned it in.


Just out of curiousity, do you usually bring 8yr old finisher medals to dinner?


ETA: Failed to pick up that it was a hat and not a medal. Apologies.



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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [AMT04] [ In reply to ]
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AMT04 wrote:
linhardt wrote:
Recenly I left my IM Florida 2006 finisher(my 1st IM) hat in a restaurant and nobody turned it in.

Just out of curiousity, do you usually bring 8yr old finisher medals to dinner?

He said he left his hat, not his medal. At least read his post before you respond sarcastically.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Patrick E] [ In reply to ]
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Patrick E wrote:
AMT04 wrote:
linhardt wrote:
Recenly I left my IM Florida 2006 finisher(my 1st IM) hat in a restaurant and nobody turned it in.


Just out of curiousity, do you usually bring 8yr old finisher medals to dinner?


He said he left his hat, not his medal. At least read his post before you respond sarcastically.

That makes a lot more sense. An obvious miss on my part, but it wasn't sarcasm as much as real curiousity.



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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Patrick E] [ In reply to ]
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Patrick E wrote:
AMT04 wrote:
linhardt wrote:
Recenly I left my IM Florida 2006 finisher(my 1st IM) hat in a restaurant and nobody turned it in.


Just out of curiousity, do you usually bring 8yr old finisher medals to dinner?


He said he left his hat, not his medal. At least read his post before you respond sarcastically.

Maybe he's really this guy:


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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [AMT04] [ In reply to ]
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AMT04 wrote:
Patrick E wrote:
AMT04 wrote:
linhardt wrote:
Recenly I left my IM Florida 2006 finisher(my 1st IM) hat in a restaurant and nobody turned it in.


Just out of curiousity, do you usually bring 8yr old finisher medals to dinner?


He said he left his hat, not his medal. At least read his post before you respond sarcastically.


That makes a lot more sense. An obvious miss on my part, but it wasn't sarcasm as much as real curiousity.

Now Finman, he takes his finisher's medals to dinner I bet.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Was it for Mont Tremblant? If so Sara Gross says she will send you hers.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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If they said they would mail you one, I would just give it a week or two and, if you haven't received it by then, check in with them. If they gave you their word, give them a chance to deliver. I had this happen for a race once, and they delivered - no problems. No need to spend a bunch of money on it.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry - didn't read closely - I see the race in question was Steelhead.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Travis R] [ In reply to ]
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I'd just wait, but if you doubt that you'll ever get it, you can send me a pre-addressed and stamped padded envelope and I'll send you mine. It was my 4th 70.3 a "B" race and other than a really good bike split, it's wasn't uniquely memorable for me... and I got a trophy as a souvenir anyway.

I seem to recall the volunteer asking me if I wanted a medal after I crossed the line, so they were trying to ration them early on it seems.... so clearly they were concerned about running out as it was clear that had more starters and less DNF's after the swim than anticipated. If I knew they were short on medals I probably wouldn't have taken one. Maybe they should have asked if folks wanted a coffee mug or $20 IM store gift card... I'd rather have either instead.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [chrisinma] [ In reply to ]
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Haha $59.99? Tonight, I'm going home to list all of my race medals on ebay!
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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You could buy a pink thong underwear and wear it everyday if you want. It's your money and you could do whatever you want with it (legally).

On the other hand, why can't you wait for WTC to send you a medal? Do you feel totally inadequate without one? You did an Ironman, what else do you have to show?


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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [motoguy128] [ In reply to ]
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motoguy128 wrote:
I'd just wait, but if you doubt that you'll ever get it, you can send me a pre-addressed and stamped padded envelope and I'll send you mine. It was my 4th 70.3 a "B" race and other than a really good bike split, it's wasn't uniquely memorable for me... and I got a trophy as a souvenir anyway.

I seem to recall the volunteer asking me if I wanted a medal after I crossed the line, so they were trying to ration them early on it seems.... so clearly they were concerned about running out as it was clear that had more starters and less DNF's after the swim than anticipated. If I knew they were short on medals I probably wouldn't have taken one. Maybe they should have asked if folks wanted a coffee mug or $20 IM store gift card... I'd rather have either instead.

PM me if interested.

For being a stand up guy I just donated to your fund raising efforts. Thats pretty decent of you to help a stranger.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Nulli_Secundus] [ In reply to ]
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I know, right? Holy crap, my medal drawer is the one of the biggest assets I own.


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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [fe_dad] [ In reply to ]
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This post just reminded me that I never got a finisher medal for my first triathlon (first ever) earlier this season. You just reminded me to email the race director as it was supposed to be shipped to be back in June.

I wouldn't buy a medal online b/c I would still have hopes of receiving one properly. And I'd probably also email again and again until I got that medal in the mail. Maybe its silly, but I'm insanely proud of each of my medals and they are on display in my apartment.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [wasasherpafirst] [ In reply to ]
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wasasherpafirst wrote:
This post just reminded me that I never got a finisher medal for my first triathlon (first ever) earlier this season. You just reminded me to email the race director as it was supposed to be shipped to be back in June.

I wouldn't buy a medal online b/c I would still have hopes of receiving one properly. And I'd probably also email again and again until I got that medal in the mail. Maybe its silly, but I'm insanely proud of each of my medals and they are on display in my apartment.

there's nothing wrong with that. After you race for a few years though they sort of lose their lsuter. I made a bunch of mine into refrigerator magnets and have a bunch in a drawer.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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you can have my steelhead one from this year if you want it.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Garibaldi wrote:
I finished Ironman Steelhead last Sunday.

Your story doesn't check out. That race doesn't exist!
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [paxfobiscum] [ In reply to ]
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paxfobiscum wrote:
You could buy a pink thong underwear and wear it everyday if you want. It's your money and you could do whatever you want with it (legally).

On the other hand, why can't you wait for WTC to send you a medal? Do you feel totally inadequate without one? You did an Ironman, what else do you have to show?


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He did a half Ironman didn't he? Not that anybody's keeping track...

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Jordan45] [ In reply to ]
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I am anti-medal! Until I am 1st overall in a race I don't want a medal. I've given all of my finisher/age medals away to my kids, parents and donated...I saw a medal ribbon of mine with the medal unattached sticking out from underneath my kids toy chest the other day...

But that's just me and there is clearly nothing wrong with wanting a medal as they are hard earned and great symbols of accomplishment.

All that being said - If WTC is going to send you one, I would not buy one. If your medal was lost, stolen or damaged and you wanted a replacement, then I'd say go for it...
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [pattersonpaul] [ In reply to ]
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At least you now know how much those things are worth, $59.99 plus shipping.

I guess you could buy that one and bill them for the cost of it. I'm sure they'd be ok with
that arrangement.

I was talking to the RD for the Rotorua 1/2 IM about the medals a few years back. I said save the money as not that many people actually want them. He said nah, they cost less than $2 NZD each from his Chinese source.

One year he included race shirt and shorts in the entry fee. Average quality Chinese stuff, but nice to try and up the ante for what's included in the entry fee. The shirt and shorts cost him very little ($15 NZD for the set), but you get what you pay for. The Chinese manufacturer put the sponsors logo on the side of the leg of the shorts, upsided down! As you'd cycle, the logo would go from vertical to upside down as you'd pedal, when it should have gone from vertical to upright. Some people still wear those shorts to races. I giggle every time.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [tridork] [ In reply to ]
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All,

This was more of a rhetorical question than anything else. The question actually came from someone who completed the race (their first HIM) and didn’t get a medal. She has contacted M-Dot multiple times and can’t get any response back. I simply poised it to see what public opinion was. Personally, I think someone selling their finishers medal is about as lame and someone buying it to say they did the race.


We had several people in our tri club that were racing their first half IM. Getting a medal was an extremely big deal for them. I saw one guy I know pretty well who decided to sign up that week and has done multiple IM and HIMs, wheel his bike off at the end of the day with a medal. I also saw another woman I know who trained for year, it was her first HIM and signed up almost a year ago burst into tears because she didn't receive a medal. What triggered it was one of the guys in the finishers chute saying "You should have run faster" to her after 7+ hours on the course. Then the tears came.


I didn't get a medal either (I was told I was the first one to finish that didn't get a medal. I received the same "You should have ran faster" response from a IM official on the course. Pretty lame.


We managed to get some of the first timers their medals within our group. I think M-Dot’s response is what the issue is for me.


For the record, I am not planning on buying a medal and will wait for the one I rightly deserved (and paid for) to be delivered to me. Not because I need it. I just think race medals are totally cool and some day when I am not able to physically compete in races any longer, I will break them out and reflect on what used to be able to do.


My personal view is that race medals are important. It is more important for various reasons and to varying degrees based on the individuals needs. This was not my first HIM. While I appreciate the offers from others to send me their medals, I would prefer them to go to someone who was a first timer that didn’t get one. I am certainly willing to wait. If this were my first HIM, I would probably feel different. I do like getting medals. Probably since I didn’t play little league when I was a kid and never received trophies for this sort of stuff.


However, I do think the question is valid. It says a lot about how Ironman Corp views their participants in races. Don’t get me wrong. I am a fan of IM branded races and the mystique that surrounds them. This is my first issue with M-Dot at all in several years of racing. The deeper I get into this one-time issue, the more pissed off I become.


I have called and emailed multiple times IM Headquarters without a response. It is as if their offices are deserted at all times. No receptionist, no race directors answer the phone. It is a total ghost town. To test this, I have called up a few times and had a few other people in our group that didn’t receive medals call as well. No response at all.


Poor customer service really pisses me off (regardless of the company). I paid a big chunk of change to do the race and completed it. They didn’t plan well and should have some form of customer feedback in case there is an issue. Silence is a horrible customer service policy.


I would think Ironman corp would pay more attention to their customer service but apparently they can’t be bothered. They could at least send an email apologizing for their blunder. There has been absolutely no communication from M-Dot on when the medals will be mailed out. I know several people who have called and emailed. So far, silence. The Chicago Marathon had a few boxes of medals stolen in 2012. Cary Pinkowski was on it. The people that didn’t get a medal were bombarded with emails, letters, phone calls, etc… because he knew that the Bank of America reputation was at risk. M-Dot seems like they could care less about their brand or reputation. Their races fill up without issue so maybe they don’t need quality control any longer since their product sells without too much issue.


My two cents.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [andy515] [ In reply to ]
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andy515 wrote:
you can have my steelhead one from this year if you want it.

Thank you. I appreciate it. I will pass. If you can give it to a first timer that didn't get a medal, I am sure they would appreciate it. There are quite a few of them out there.

Cheers!
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [paxfobiscum] [ In reply to ]
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paxfobiscum wrote:
You could buy a pink thong underwear and wear it everyday if you want. It's your money and you could do whatever you want with it (legally).

On the other hand, why can't you wait for WTC to send you a medal? Do you feel totally inadequate without one? You did an Ironman, what else do you have to show?


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Any update?


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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [KonaCoffee] [ In reply to ]
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KonaCoffee wrote:
Any update?

Crickets.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Not a good sign at all. If the folks in this position haven't done so already it may be time to start writing WTC headquarters pestering them for information.


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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [KonaCoffee] [ In reply to ]
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Already done.

No action taken by WTC.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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I think the whole finisher's medal thing is getting way out of control.

I ran a "9.11K" race this weekend and they had them there. Nobody
needs a junky medal in the shape of the World Trade Center for 38 minutes of running.

It's sad but a lot of people there were only doing the race for that tacky thing.

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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [pattersonpaul] [ In reply to ]
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pattersonpaul wrote:
I think the whole finisher's medal thing is getting way out of control.

I ran a "9.11K" race this weekend and they had them there. Nobody
needs a junky medal in the shape of the World Trade Center for 38 minutes of running.

It's sad but a lot of people there were only doing the race for that tacky thing.

Do people get married without exchanging rings?
Do people graduate college and not get a diploma?
Do people die and get buried without a headstone?

Sure. For some people those things are important. I don't judge one way or another how people decide.

However, when you advertise that as part of the race, then don't deliver, then have crappy customer service, I take issue with it.

WTC should be better. But they aren't
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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If you still haven't gotten a resolution, check out the "would you be pissed at ironman/WTC thread." Tom Ziebart gave that guy his email address over the same issue.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [Garibaldi] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, just realized you're the same author of both threads.
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Re: Would it be wrong to buy an Ironman medal for a race I actually completed but never received a medal for? [tridork] [ In reply to ]
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I still have a pair of those shorts, nice training gear as they refuse to die for some reason. Not bad for cheap stuff.



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