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Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder
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Cleaning out the garage yesterday (*&#^*#@^$ mice!) and realized that between the fiancee and I we've got 6 units. 3 road p-taps, a MTB p-tap, a quarq (out on loan) and an SRM. Even tho i'm just tooling around and not in serious training I'd seriously feel lost without some numbers in my face. I've got athletes that freak out when they have to send their units back in or ride the bike that doesn't have the PM on it. Anyone else have this problem!

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. 6 with another arriving in the next few days.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
Cleaning out the garage yesterday (*&#^*#@^$ mice!) and realized that between the fiancee and I we've got 6 units. 3 road p-taps, a MTB p-tap, a quarq (out on loan) and an SRM. Even tho i'm just tooling around and not in serious training I'd seriously feel lost without some numbers in my face. I've got athletes that freak out when they have to send their units back in or ride the bike that doesn't have the PM on it. Anyone else have this problem!

Maybe that's why we get along....and why I almost never ride my road bike - no PM!

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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> Anyone else have this problem!

Yeah. My Quarq battery died this morning, and my heart just wasn't in the workout.

Had to use HR and hrTSS (the horror).

It's like the workout didn't even happen.



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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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well if you count the ones i've sold off over the years i'm at 14 :-D

three road bikes (2 for me 1 for her)
her mountain bike
two tri bikes (srm/quarq)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [trail] [ In reply to ]
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yes, THAT!

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [darkhorsetri] [ In reply to ]
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that's the only reason?

you need a ptap for that puppy. shame you keep it locked up and don't let it play

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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Me too. I've lost count, actually.

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Yes!!

My entire self-worth is based upon how many watts I can put out....

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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I had 12, but I managed over time to wean myself back down to 4. Hang on, no 5 (I just remembered that one). Most went to good homes but a few went to wattage heaven.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Currently, there's a total of 10 PMs in my possession:

5 Quarq (all prototypes)
2 PT (one yellow cap PT Pro, one G3 MTB disc)
2 Polar Chain tension
1 Look Max One hub

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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10 Kickrs
2 CTs
4 Quarqs
1 SRM
1 Stages
1 P2M
4 Power taps
1 Vasa with power measurement
1 Power beam pro
4 inRides
Some tacx trainers with power

Various other prototype stuff

I think that's it.

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Nate Pearson] [ In reply to ]
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You reminded me...there's 2 more, a CT and a LeMond Power Pilot.

So that makes 12 total, not including the SRM I'm currently borrowing...

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Just curious (and a bit jealous) how you aquired all of these?

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Nate Pearson] [ In reply to ]
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Nate Pearson wrote:
10 Kickrs
2 CTs
4 Quarqs
1 SRM
1 Stages
1 P2M
4 Power taps
1 Vasa with power measurement
1 Power beam pro
4 inRides
Some tacx trainers with power

Various other prototype stuff

I think that's it.

Yours are tax deductible, that doesn't count :)
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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A chick with not one but two power meters. That's a keeper.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Between my husband and I, we have 4 going on 5. We like numbers - they keep ya motivated in the crappy weather!

Currently in the stable:
2 computrainers that are older than the hills but still kickin!
Power tap
Stages

About to acquire another powertap - those things are indestructible!

I don't even want to think about how many wheels we have out in the garage . . . . .
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Nate Pearson] [ In reply to ]
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I like the inclusion of the vasa there

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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IIRC the look and polar are for your collection?

of the others which ones are on which various rides?

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Last edited by: MarkyV: Jul 23, 14 17:46
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [logella] [ In reply to ]
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three!!! All acquired before we started dating. There's a ring on her now :)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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1 KICKR
2 CompuTrainer
2 Tacx
1 Lemond
2 PowerTap's
3 Quarq's (one on loan)
2 Vector sets
1 Power2Max (on loan)
1 Rotor (on loan)
1 Pioneer (on loan)
1 Stages
1 inRide

I do feel like I'm probably forgetting/omitting something's... Oh wait, 2 PowerCal's. In any case, more on the way...


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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
IIRC the look and polar are for your collection?

of the others which ones are on which various rides?

Of the 5 Quarqs, 3 are on my road bikes (S5, Alu Soloist, steel Bianchi), 1 is on TT bike (Alu P3), and 1 on my 16 yo son's bike (Alu Soloist).

PT Pro wheel is for aero field testing. G3 PT MTB is on K24000.

Both Polars are still usable...in fact, one was on my son's bike until a Quarq become available.

The Look still works too...I just haven't laced it into a rim yet. It has the disadvantage of no data recording as well.

Oh yeah...I think there's an old Ciclosport bike computer around here still that has the power estimation feature in it as well. I'll call that 0.5 of power meter.

"Hoarding Disorder" is right....sheesh...

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Just glad to know its not only me!

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Reading this thread has firmed up my resolve to only use the power meter during the winter on the trainer (CT). I easily become a numbers junkie and spend the winter staring at the number while I ride, but when spring comes I ride by feel outside. When I'm transitioning between the two it is funny how one or the other feels like it "counts" but it is all good. For my own good I need a forced break from analytic cycling. I was toying with the idea of getting an on bike PM but no thanks.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Nate Pearson] [ In reply to ]
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Are all power meters created equal? I didn't see any garmin, polar, or pioneer on any list
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I'm glad I'm not the only one with multiple PM's

I don't feel so bad having 3 PT's, 1 P2Max and 2 CT's

jaretj
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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where was the problem? cleaning the garage?



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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [dgran] [ In reply to ]
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dgran wrote:
Reading this thread has firmed up my resolve to only use the power meter during the winter on the trainer (CT). I easily become a numbers junkie and spend the winter staring at the number while I ride, but when spring comes I ride by feel outside. When I'm transitioning between the two it is funny how one or the other feels like it "counts" but it is all good. For my own good I need a forced break from analytic cycling. I was toying with the idea of getting an on bike PM but no thanks.

The funny thing is...since I'm not really "training" for anything in particular at the moment, I use my PMs mostly as a "black box recorder" of my actual rides. Downloading the file is easier than filling out some sort of training log ;-) I really don't look at the power numbers very often while riding...

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [efntm1432] [ In reply to ]
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efntm1432 wrote:
Are all power meters created equal? I didn't see any garmin, polar, or pioneer on any list

You didn't read close enough then...I saw all 3.

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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I am a noob, only have 2 PT currently. Had 3, but sold one.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [bmeer] [ In reply to ]
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mice droppings, everywhere. have captured 8. we'll see what the total body count is when this is all over. :-p

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [sentania] [ In reply to ]
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thanks. it feels like i've told hundreds and yet still find people i haven't mentioned it to yet. next june is the date for the power meter girl and i :)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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how do you find the power2max?

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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SRM on road bike. Quarq on Tri Bike. Powertap planned for ordering in September for the winter bike. Simply cannot train without power. Totally and utterly dependent on the numbers. Its a good thing though - isn't it???

;-)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [earthling] [ In reply to ]
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hmmm, gonna pick a bone with your sig line. it's like chicken and the egg, what really comes first? I know a lot of physiologists that know the WHY very well but don't have the first clue about developing a training plan. I know a lot of coaches that are amazing at what they do but only know 10% of what a physiologist knows. I've spent 10 years picking the brains of both scientists and coaches to get the straight dope from both sides and then reconcile one against the other :)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Power2max is on my road bike. Like someone mentioned in another thread, it's about a second behind the PT's while using my Garmin 500, 310 and Joule. I find it very reliable and it's reads almost identical to my PT's.

I like it so much that I'll be buying another one when I get a new bike next year.

jaretj
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [efntm1432] [ In reply to ]
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efntm1432 wrote:
Are all power meters created equal? I didn't see any garmin, polar, or pioneer on any list

They aren't created equally with price :).

I haven't seen any good review for the polar power meter, we don't recommend it as a company. It's not ANT+ either so it won't work with TrainerRoad.

Garmin Vectors and Pioneers are expensive! Neither company cares to give us any sort of discount either :).

New TR employees get a Giant Defy 1 (if they aren't already cyclists) and we get them a trainer/power meter combo. We just got on the SRAM ambassador program so I'm guessing everyone is going to get Quarqs in the future.

We also have some Zipp FC wheel sets that we share (808/Disc) for TTs/Tris.

This sounds like a ton of stuff but we get industry deal pricing, plus all of this stuff is tax deductible so we get some nice savings.

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [jdais] [ In reply to ]
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jdais wrote:
I am a noob, only have 2 PT currently. Had 3, but sold one.

Snap. I had 3 briefly as well.

First: Powertap Elite + on cheap wheel (bought wheelcover)
Second: Powertap SL+ in 50mm carbon clincher
Third: Powertap SL+ in Zipp disk

I sold the first one, so currently have 2. Disk right now is set up on the trainer on a road bike. 50mm clincher PT is on my other road bike for day-day outdoor use.

Can't see how I'd get by with only one...
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [TOMOP] [ In reply to ]
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Got a quarq on my TT and my Road bike. Thinking of building another road bike and was debating the PM and now I don't feel so bad... Some of you guys and gals have problems that you might want to talk to someone about. lol
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Heh -

After two years, some people are still surprised to see us with a kid.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [sentania] [ In reply to ]
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getting married!!!!!!!

no kid for us (at least not for a long while)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [jamgam] [ In reply to ]
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that's kinda why i started the thread. a little bit of ST group therapy. "oh, i'm not _that_ bad" ;)

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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I knew that! I was just providing a comparable example showing how easy it is to presume that a fact is common knowledge, and yet it's really not!
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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I have 4 Powertaps. I built up a new set of training wheels this year so my training wheels would have the same rim width as my race wheels so I wouldn't have to adjust my brakes all the time. So I put my old training wheels on my commuter so now I have power on that bike. I'm building a new cross bike and it kills me I don't have a Powertap for it.

I let my girlfriend use my road wheels a few times so she could ride with power and now she wants a Powertap. So it may not be too long and I'll be living in a 6 power meter household too.
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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [sentania] [ In reply to ]
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ah, yes! make sense now!

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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i decided to invest is the best powermeter on the market on all my bikes....no battery change, no calibration, no download, no maintenance cost, no installation. I think more people should ;)

and i will take on anyone challenge to check to calibration of it....!

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Re: Power meter addiction and hoarding disorder [logella] [ In reply to ]
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logella wrote:
A chick with not one but two power meters. That's a keeper.

Not directed at me but awwww thanks! :0)

In my defence, my road and tri bikes have different sized wheels, so I need at LEAST two.

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