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Be gentle, it's my first time.
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In Feb. of 2004 I began riding with a local group of guys. I couldn't say enough GREAT things about them. They were and continue to be encouraging and wonderful. Every good skill that I have developed on my bike I owe to them. They always treat me and each other with respect and care. BUT...every once in awhile a new guy will show up and He will treat me like a rash or worse...ask me out. Now here is my dilemma and where the conflict comes in. People do not ask Joe out for Thai. Nobody singles out Bob at the end of a ride to see if he wants to go on a tour for two. Is it wrong for me to want to be treated like the other cyclists that I ride with? I act like them and I ride like them (draft, paceline and blow snot-rockets). I am the only woman that rides with these guys and most of the time I am just proud to be me but when I get singled out in front of my fellow riders it just feels bad. I don't want to misrepresent the group but some days it's all I can do to be civil when treated like an alien by a newcomer. Riding with this group is good for me. They challenge me every time and I don't want to give up riding with them. I need a new way to look at this (in a positive light) and some suggestions on how to turn it around and just be kind. Thanks.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Since I'm assuming you're a girl, you're not always going to be treated as "one of the guys". Girls who find themselves in male-dominated envrionments are going to get hit on. Nothing you can do about it... if they're polite, politely say no. If they're not, ask the guy named Record10Ti what you can do with some cycling shoes or a cup of hot coffee.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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That sucks... I never get asked out when I ride with the Dizzy Chicks! I claim discrimination.

Maybe one of the ladies can give you some worthwhile advice, but my guess is that a good looking woman will almost always be singled out in a group of men.


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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Khai,
I've tried to recruit more women but I'm working against some pretty grim demographics. Maybe I'll suggest that the new guys dress like women. Jk
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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"Is it wrong for me to want to be treated like the other cyclists that I ride with? "

It's not wrong to want to be treated like one of the guys, but you have to honest, you are not 'just one of the guys'.

For most of these guys, you are probably one of two things: a mild distraction and/or an incentive to show up to the ride.

For me, ... I'm there to train, focusing on the ride.

- gary
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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You know, if it's only the newbie guys that are doing it, get together with the regulars and agree to drop whatever guy hits on you. Then laugh at him afterwards.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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[snip]

tell them you'll think about it, but first you have to find some miconazole nitrate for a thing you've got to take care of. that should do the trick.

Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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dak: be thankful you are hot enough to get hit on </look on the bright side>
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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I don't intend to sound harsh, however that is just human nature. When a woman hangs out with a bunch of men they will in fact be treated that way. Examine your behavior and try to determine why the men feel it is okay to continually treat you in a way that you don't like. Chances are they are completely clueless that you are even bothered! The next time you are hit you must send them a very clear signal that it is not ok and eventually they should catch on.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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You're not just like them, you're apparently a single woman. The treating like a rash part might be them trying to show they have no interest in inviting you out for Thai....well, they do, but they are acting like they don't.

I'll let the women chime in with ways to say "no" in a kind way. But I don't see why you should feel bad to be singled out...the "regulars" both know you, apparently like riding with you, see this happen to you a lot, and know that it isn't something you bring onto yourself.

The NY Times had an article about genes a few weeks ago. In numerous animals, from flies to mice, scientists said the males had a "if its a female, try and mate/if its a male, fight it" response. And that response could be turned on and off by manipulating a gene. In fact, they could give females those same marching orders by changing a gene. I don't think we're too far removed from any of the animals mentioned.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Dan, I caught that, very clever!

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trifolk] [ In reply to ]
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"In fact, they could give females those same marching orders by changing a gene. "

End of civilization is near.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Hey man...that was Ze Gopha's J.I. not mine ;) I was just trying to help that itchy boy out.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Gary Tingley] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, us guys would just watch the women go for each other and no one would try and do anything to stop it until it was too late!!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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tell them you'll think about it, but first you have to find some miconazole nitrate for a thing you've got to take care of. that should do the trick.
Mmmm... whiff test

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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pictures...we want pictures! You sound like a hottie;)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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guess i don't understand your dilema...you're riding with a group that has been great for you, but evey now and the a guy asks you out and you're unhappy about it?

if you're that upset over it then tell everyone you're engaged...or, just get over it. it's normal!!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Ah, little sister...enjoy it while it lasts. Eventually, (sadly), someday they will think you are one of the boys and you will be remembering fondly, what it was like to be so desired. And then, you will write anonymous threads like, "I am soooo HOT" just to see how you can excite an easy audience like these ST men.

So, bask in the glow being in the power position of having to fend them off with smart alecky comeback lines and white lies!



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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Sweet Pink] [ In reply to ]
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that was cute...lol.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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all is fair in love and war - anonymous
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Put 'em into the curb?

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [jsivvy] [ In reply to ]
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the expression is, kick em to the curb...unless of course you mean deliberately crashing them...lol.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [kittycat] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, meant deliberately crash them. I think it would be about the best way to ensure the new guys weren't hitting on you - though I expect a few individuals would find it "hot" being taken out by a chick.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [kittycat] [ In reply to ]
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Kittycat-You're right...simply and well put. That is exactly what I would say to me. Unfortunately my stupid feelings are getting in the way. When it does happen I deal and then go home. Sometimes I talk to another guy in the group about it. We laugh about it but, at the end of the day I take it home with me. The dilema is that I feel it undermines my training session. I've worked as hard as everyone else. If someone wants to ask me out, they can do it another time. If someone wants me to prove myself during a ride I will do it within the parameters of what is safe. Point being...I'm there to work like everyone else, not to hook up.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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I wanna be honest here, girls on bikes are hot, but if I was lucky enough to have a nice, beautiful woman in a training ride i would wait for a signal that i am able to put a move on her. Which I believe is the only way to actually get involved with someone. Any guy that hits on you blatently more than once should be given the b@%#$ treatment. Dont forget the ol frame pump in the wheel move though, that should come in handy for those pesky ones.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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This is your problem not the guys' problem. You are a woman they are men and if they treat diffrent and ask you out you gotta realize that's what boys and girls do. Idealism about how you should be treated has nothing to do with reality. Suck it up or find a new group.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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"If someone wants to ask me out, they can do it another time."

Presumably you like being asked out, sometimes. How, pray tell, are the guys supposed to know when? From the guy's perspective, by asking. I don't see that asking you out demeans you as a rider.

By the way, the guys are there to make friends as well, that is how a particular group comes together. It does not detract from the work.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Be careful what you wish for and don't try to change human nature. Boys like girls. Girls like boys. Mr. Right might come along and you're going to scare the Hell out of him through the grapevine and he'll never ask you out. Then you'll miss out on a spouse who enjoys the same hobby you do. Be careful what you wish for.

If somebody asks who you're not interested in, simply tell him you prefer not to. Nothing personal, but it if doesn't work out, we'll both feel uncomfortable on rides and I'd hate to do that to you, me and the rest of the group. If things change down the road, we'll both know it. I'm flattered you asked. See you next week.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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LOL, they're a very picky bunch ;-)

As for the original post, honey, even when you act like the guys, you still have boobies and different plumbing down there, therefore guys will still ask you out. Best revenge is to say no, then outride them. :P

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Well Dakinilegs,

It's called the Birds n The Bees.

As long as the Guys who ask you out are polite about it you've got nothing to complain about. If nobody even looked your way, or worse still really-really talked to you and treated you as if you were really just one of the guys, then you would have something to complain about.

Real confident emotionally balanced attractive women know where they stand with the guys and know what they have is a God given assett and not bitch about getting attention. They handle it with the normality it deserves. In your case if you like the guy go out on that date invitation if you don't want to just decline nicely. Where's the biggie?

On the other hand narcistic imbalanced women are over conscious about men wanting to get close to them to the extent it is even imagined at times when it's not even happening.

You can't have your cake and eat it as well.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [uwmswimr] [ In reply to ]
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What is that about a girl on a bike? Everytime a single woman shows up on our group ride the guys all act like they've never seen a woman before. It's like her attractiveness quotient triples. I've never quite understood this. I get hit on and flirted with way, way more when I have a bike with me then when I don't.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Khai, that's just because Andy's husband is twice your size... ;-)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Trillini] [ In reply to ]
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A fit girl on a bike is sexier than a couch potato girl.

I really can't see the problem here (but I am a boy).

If this is your biggest problem in life, then you're doing pretty well.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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How far are you from Dearborn, Mi? You should ride with Tom, no chance of him asking you out :-)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [cougie] [ In reply to ]
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I agree that a fit person is sexier than a nonfit person, as a rule. It's just weird the way the guys get so excited when a single girl shows up. They're like gradeschoolers @ an all boy's school. I'm usually trying to figure out how to make the new woman feel welcome and then, well, no problem, she's welcome. LOL

As to the original post, well my take is take it for what it is, a compliment. When they get pushy or pouty then just ignore them or act clueless. I would suspect, unless you're really that attractive, they'll move on.

Pat
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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We have three women regulars in our road group, one of them being my wife. There was this one guy who was hitting on her for awhile until he realized that she was already spoken for. It was kinda funny while it lasted, so enjoy the attention - my wife does.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]
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My husband got hit on by a woman cyclist on a ride that I missed. The next 4-5 times we met she kept introducing herself to me as if she didn't remember me. Truth is my husband and I both got a bit of a kick out of it, and he was flattered.

Pat
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [smartasscoach] [ In reply to ]
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How far are you from Dearborn, Mi? You should ride with Tom, no chance of him asking you out :-)

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as for the original post, start wearing a jersey that says TRANSGENDER RULES on it. They will leave you alone.


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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry but to me you sound like a whiney baby that is trying to get her ego stroked with this post. Now I completly understand if the guys are obnoxious but you did not say that they were so it rubs me wrong. Take it for the compliment that it is and don't worry about it or find a new group. I'm guessing that your still young so enjoy it while it lasts because in 10 years it probably won't be a problem.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [weak] [ In reply to ]
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Dear Weak,

"I need a new way to look at this (in a positive light) and some suggestions on how to turn it around and just be kind."

That's what I'm looking for. Not an ego stroke but thanks for the insight.

I'm 32.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe a little harsh on my part(crappy run this morning has me grumpy). I guess that puts me in the treat you like a rash group while I secretly wish I was single and could ask you out. Take it as a compliment and tell them you are currently spoken for.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats on keeping up with the boys! I wish that more ladies could hang with the roadies I ride with. You should think of it as an ego boost...you can keep up and they think you're hot. Just get over it. If it really bothers you, tell them that you're not interested in dating right now...and hope word spreads. However, you might regret it if some hottie starts riding with the group and you want to ask him out.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [weak] [ In reply to ]
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Dear Weak,

Not a prob. Sorry you had a crappy run. I can relate.

j
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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I won't hit on you. (I'm still hoping Tigerchick will return my pm's.)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Ze Gopha] [ In reply to ]
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Cool, thanks. Good luck with those PMs.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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The guys you ride with -- how good of friends are they??

I have been a "pretend" boyfriend to a female friend so guys would leave her alone. Another friend would say she was a nun and would he like to hear about God - that seemed to work pretty well.

Other than that - Like others said -- put on a imaginary raincoat and let it spill off.

A wise woman named Nana Veary once said "If you are holding a hot roack and it is burning you -- let it go."
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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I have three daughters, the oldest of which, Jennifer, is 26 (and does tris with her old man). Jennifer complained a few years back that guys were constantly "hitting on her." I told her that, unless they were being obnoxious about it, she should enjoy the attention because at some age (40? 50?) she would not be hit on as much or at all, and might miss the attention from the opposite sex.
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Khai, that's just because Andy's husband is twice your size... ;-)
In what department? And how do you know ;)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [jhc] [ In reply to ]
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I tried to convince AndyPants that size did not matter, but she wouldn't believe me! ;-)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Under Repairs] [ In reply to ]
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I can relate- I am one of the only women and sometimes the only woman on the rides I go on. Honestly, I think it is fun and flattering when they compliment me. Anytime I have been asked out by any of them, I make it a group thing and suggest that we ALL go to get food and kindly decline any one on one offers.

My take on it (guys correct me if I am wrong) is that a lot of the guys that I ride with spend most of their free time riding and have trouble dating b/c most girls don't understand the volume of time on the bike. So a girl shows up and can keep up and suddenly the guy is thinking-"best of both worlds, I don't have to give up my hobby because she can come on the rides too" and that is a huge turn on. Just what I have found.

I find that the workout are so good that the flirting has never interfered and actually makes it more fun, so long as it is harmless and everyone knows there isn't a chance that you are going home with them!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trifolk] [ In reply to ]
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"The treating like a rash part might be them trying to show they have no interest in inviting you out for Thai....well, they do, but they are acting like they don't."
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This is dead on. If I were around an attractive woman in a setting like the one you described, this is exactly how I would act. I would be very aware that the attractive woman is probably hit on all day and probably sensitive about it, so I would be careful to avoid even the appearance that I was hitting on her which, I'm afraid, would probably make me appear to be treating her like a rash. To make matters worse, I make it a point to honor my wife by not fraternizing with attractive women, which would make it unlikely that I would engage in the same sort of friendly banter with her as I would with the guys.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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There is a book out by former super model, Cheryl Ladd, called Token Chick: A Woman's Guide to Golfing with the Boys. It includes suggestions on the very problems you are experiencing. There is an entire chapter called "Dealing with Boys Behaving Badly"
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Men

Men are like....Mini Skirts.
If you're not careful, they'll creep up your legs.

Men are like.....Bananas.
The older they get, the less firm they are.

Men are like.....Department stores.
Their clothes should always be half off.

Men are like.....Vacations.
They never seem to be long enough.

Men are like.....Computers.
Hard to figure out and never have enough memory.

Men are like....Coolers.
Load them with beer and you can take them anywhere.

Men are like.....Chocolate bars.
Sweet, smooth, and they usually head right for your hips.

Men are like.....Coffee.
The best ones are rich, warm, and can keep you up all night long.

Men are like.....Horoscopes.
They always tell you what to do and are usually wrong.

Men are like.....Plungers.
They spend most of their lives in a hardware store or the bathroom.

Men are like.....Laxatives.
They irritate the shit out of you.

Men are like.....Parking spots.
The good ones are already taken and what's left is handicapped.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trigoneroadie] [ In reply to ]
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Well said. Now, get up front and take a pull...or better yet attack! No guy I know would want to get dropped by a girl. I know it is sexist, but true.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trigoneroadie] [ In reply to ]
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Trigoneroadie,

"I find that the workout are so good that the flirting has never interfered and actually makes it more fun, so long as it is harmless and everyone knows there isn't a chance that you are going home with them! "

You have a great possitive outlook! Thank you. Remaining positive seems to be the key here. If I am having a day when I can't seem muster a pos. attitude I'm going to think twice about joining the group ride. It only seems fair. If I can't be possitive I should take a break and ride alone. :)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [keyster] [ In reply to ]
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Keyster,

Thanks for the insight...the book sounds good and I will definitely check it out!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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No sympathy here. Ever lived in another country? Or visited? American guys are the most shy, timid men on the planet when it comes to this, just so you know. You need to come up with a bag of mean comebacks to fend them off and make them feel stupid. It can be a fun thing.
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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lots of guys have trouble with treating a girl as 'one of the guys'.. So, as you noticed, depending on their personality, one of two things happen: the shy/over-polite/socially inept ones treat you 'like a rash', but really they're just being clumsy; the cocky/confident ones ask you out. Not much can be done either way, until they're used to you. Maybe an ostentatiously large cubic zirconia, worn on the ring finger, as protective colouration.

"It is a good feeling for old men who have begun to fear failure, any sort of failure, to set a schedule for exercise and stick to it. If an aging man can run a distance of three miles, for instance, he knows that whatever his other failures may be, he is not completely wasted away." Romain Gary, SI interview
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [smartasscoach] [ In reply to ]
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well well now, there's some truth to size being important... there has to be SOME size in order to do something with it ;-)

the real question is which measurement is more important? hee hee!

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trigoneroadie] [ In reply to ]
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Nope, you're wrong. It's just cause you are hot!!!!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trigoneroadie] [ In reply to ]
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[reply] there isn't a chance that you are going home with them![/reply]

I'm glad you told me before I made a fool of myself! :)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Sparticus] [ In reply to ]
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That is beautiful... and so true... right? ;-)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [doug in co] [ In reply to ]
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Doug...could you have hit the nail on the head? COMPLETELY! I agree and the CZ idea is not so bad. Jersey pocket contents...peanuts...check, cell phone...check, big fat CZ...check! Not a bad idea :)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [dakinilegs] [ In reply to ]
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Dak,

Just get on the ride, get out of your saddle, give him the 'Lance to Ullrich Look', and drop his ass. He won't bother you again. That is why I don't ask girl cyclist's out. They can never hear me when I yell up the road to them!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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I had a girlfriend...and her MOTHER once told me

"Long and thin goes way in - but Short and Thick will do the trick"



This was about 15 years ago...and yes, I did end up sleeping with the mom (who had skills FAR surpassing the daughter)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trigoneroadie] [ In reply to ]
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Oh honey, come on, tell these people the truth... last time we rode, we went back home together, LOLOLOLOL...

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [smartasscoach] [ In reply to ]
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Ohhhhh...all right ;)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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I would have picked Mom over Daughter too in your case (or gone for the double header). I have a thing for potty mouths ;-)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [smartasscoach] [ In reply to ]
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I wondered why she giggled everytime she saw you at IMAZ!!! To you, girls are like Clif Bars...you love them all and can't seem to get your hands on any!!!!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [briantryintri] [ In reply to ]
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Shut up Brian, you're just jealous because I don't get dropped by them ;-)

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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That would have been WAY to freaky...Incest I think...ewwwww

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [trigoneroadie] [ In reply to ]
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So a girl shows up and can keep up and suddenly the guy is thinking-"best of both worlds, I don't have to give up my hobby because she can come on the rides too" and that is a huge turn on.
That is how I met my wife but to be fair, we had ridden on and off together for nearly a year before we started dating - of course we are kind of weird!

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Not at the same time... hee hee!

Well, I trust your judgement to have picked the right one ;-)

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Oh, I can hang with them but I just like the view better! (yea right!)
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I think guys love women who ride because it is hard to have a realtionship with a sport and a woman at the same time. They think you would understand it a little better than most. And really, there are not that many women who are serious enough about riding to be albe to keep up with men. dont flame me, but in my area there were maybe four women who could keep up with the fifty guys I ride with.

One woman I was friends with was hit on a lot. She was cute. It normally rolled off her. But one guy kept asking. She played a little dumb, said she was busy or whatever. But he didn't catch on.

Then she finally told him she wasnt interested and he asked why. She said that the age difference was too big (he50, she32). He got mad and started talking bad about her in the group.

She was quite upset. I finally told him to leave her alone and quit talking about her.

I always hated him anyway. The kind of guy who wanted to sit second wheel on a training ride and never pull through.

Just tell the guys you dont f guys who wear spandex, true or not.
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I wear lycra.
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Well then I wont sleep with you

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I always hated him anyway. The kind of guy who wanted to sit second wheel on a training ride and never pull through.
Sounds like someone who on a descent prior to the next climb, zooms past the group but then slows to a crawl because the hill is to long for his 'zoom' or sag climb technique. At that point we usually punch it hard so that we no longer have to worry about the guy anymore because without a fast wheel to sit on, he is not bridging back to the group anytime soon.

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I KNEW IT! That's why I am always pulling when I ride with mostly guys.

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'Nice ass.'

'Yea, he must work out.'

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I KNEW IT! That's why I am always pulling when I ride with mostly guys.
You better beleive it! Of course it is always interesting to thorw the ladies off balance by mentioning something like "hey, when did you get that tatoo?" just to see their reaction. Something else to think about, Assos and Castelli make some really sweet (but expensive) clothes for women, but those white and yellow shorts, well lets just say you might want to think twice about that as a wardrobe choice on the really humid days when you are likely to sweat quite a bit or if there is a possibility of rain. Two ladies I know were made painfully aware that their yellow Assos shorts became pretty see through from sweat and/or rain.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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How 'bout his mother?
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Oh, good grief. What's next, you're going to complain about how other women hate you because you're beautiful?








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 "Oh honey, come on, tell these people the truth... last time we rode, we went back home together, LOLOLOLOL... "

Ha!! busted. damn.

See Brian, you should have ridden with us. You could have gone home with SAC too...
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Hey girl! I can somewhat understand where you come from. But I, on the other end, usually like the attention, especially if the guy is cute. Nothing wrong with getting hit on. But when the older guys just keep bugging me and always are like "so...." well i get irritated. I just want to ride. So I guess it all depends on who is giving me the attention!! But again, like others said, drop them, they don't like that :-)
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Marisol,

Thanks :) Yeah, there was this one guy last year who just kept asking me to go to dinner with him. One night I said "no thanks" for the 5th time and he got angry with me. Then he would come to the group rides and pout. We would drop him and finally he just stopped coming altogether.
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it's actually funny.. I can just imagine the scenario and the guys coming on to you. Like I was on this floor hockey team and got warned the first day about this guy hitting on the new girls. sure enough:-) Some guys think that if they ask 1000 girls out, they may get one to say yes!
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swift justice!

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"1000 girls out, they may get one to say yes!"

You mean that won't worK?
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kinda like the lottery I guess...maybe they feel like they "Gotta be in it to win it"
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I thought that they didnt win tell they were in?

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"so......"
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[reply]"so......"[/reply]

How you doing? LOL
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wanna have dinner?

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No thanks

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Wanna have dinner?

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rejection



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Hey Tim,

Wanna go for a ride with me?
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10 best pickup lines


Number 10
"I was wondering if you have a moment to spare for me to hit on you?"
This one is relatively original and seems innocent enough for her to take notice, without feeling threatened by you. You'll also effectively send the message that you're interested in her, but are more interested in making her smile.

Number 9
"What's a sexy woman like you doing in a dirty mind like mine?"
A fairly underused line, this one conveys that you find her hot, without sounding offensive. Show her you can be a bad boy and see if she likes your direct approach with the ladies.

Number 8
"Do you work for UPS? I could have sworn I saw you checking out my package."
This one is fairly blunt (no pun intended), but it's the perfect one to use when you see a woman giving you the eye and, well, checking out your package. Since she may feel a bit uneasy, you should take the opportunity and strike up a conversation while you have the upper hand.

Number 7
"Who's your friend?"
This one is risky, but it will shatter any pretense she might have about your actions by shifting the focus on her friend. This will intrigue her, to say the least, as she will wish to know "hey, how come not me?"

Number 6


"I'm new in town and can't find my way around; could I have directions to your place?"
The line itself isn't that great, but city newcomers are always refreshing people to speak with, and they also seem less threatening. It's highly unlikely that she'll shrug off your request to chat, and she'll probably laugh (if she has a sense of humor). The probability that she replies with a "where from?" is even higher. Do not use if you are actually a local.

Number 5


"I may not be the best-looking guy in here, but I'm the only one talking to you."
Believe it or not, only good-looking guys should use this one, since they'll be viewed as modest. If a guy uses this and he is ugly, then it's a sign of insecurity, which is a huge a turnoff. Generally, this line passes because it proves that the guy is down-to-earth. It will surely throw her off guard as she might get offended. Use with caution.



Number 4


"You must be Jamaican, because Jamaican me crazy."
If you ever spot an attractive woman and would like to approach her, this line is funny in a childish manner and women tend to laugh off funny lyrics such as this one.

Number 3


"What's your name?"
Instead of saying something like, "baby, we're like two banks: we both have interest in each other and we should merge," this one is simple and will not insult her intelligence. It may be the oldest one in the book (well, "come here often?" takes that award), but this one is genuine and direct -- two important qualities.



Number 2


"See my friend over there? He wants to know if you think I'm cute."
Extremely original, this line will make you stand out from the pack. This line virtually guarantees that she will smile. You may not leave with her that night, but you may get her phone number or at least chat it up for a while.

Number 1


"So what haven't you been told tonight?"
Very original, this line will make you stand out from the other men. You acknowledge that she has been getting hit on all night and you do not wish to add to her frustration. However, you are confident and interested enough to try your luck without insulting your intelligence.


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Dont forget "Are you are horney as I am?" - that did work for me - more than once.

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my bike or yours?



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Holy Crap! MINE! MINE!
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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I swear to Lance I saw that bike at the Chicago Gay Pride parade...seriously...

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You're killin' me with this Lance stuff. You know he hit on me once during a group ride and it pissed me off to no...all right I can't even finish that thought. I WISH!
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I am serious though, I saw that bike at the parade...even stopped the dude (I think) riding it so I could see how it was all together.

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I swear to Lance I saw that bike at the Chicago Gay Pride parade...seriously...




Why didn't you tell us you rode in the Chicago Gay Pride parade? :^> Sort of puts a whole new slant on the freeze dried nuts situation!

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Cause when I finally do come out of the closet...I will shock the planet with my outright gayness..I will streak like Haleys Comet across the gay sky in my Underoos and Cape of queerness...oh, my girlfriends...the day is coming....untill then, I will stay Hetero.

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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Marisol] [ In reply to ]
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You didn't like getting hit on by the oranges that were thrown at us!!!
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"Some guys think that if they ask 1000 girls out, they may get one to say yes!"

So you're saying there's a chance.......
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where have you been? we miss you :-)
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Re: Be gentle, it's my first time. [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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Dude, you've got to be making up half the stuff you post when it comes to women....AND, Damn, I'm jealous!!


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You forgot (when out with a Sikh Indian guy with a turban) - "Meet my friend, he's the prince of India".

It actually worked, and we went out for a decent time after.

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"1000 girls out, they may get one to say yes!"

You mean that won't worK?


That's what I do. I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens.

I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is gonna happen.


That's the attitude.

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It works better if you just pick one great chick, and ask over and over. And over and over and over again.

True.








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"Oh honey, come on, tell these people the truth... last time we rode, we went back home together, LOLOLOLOL... "

Ha!! busted. damn.

See Brian, you should have ridden with us. You could have gone home with SAC too...
Eheheheheheheheh... :-D

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I hate to say it is true...that is awful really cause I cant deny some of what I have done...however I will deny the fat chick (and I mean FAT) for ever.

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It works better if you just pick one great chick, and ask over and over. And over and over and over again.

True.
I believe you, but sometimes I think only randymar has any good taste in movies here ;)

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When you say "One great chick"...do you mean size?



great ( P ) Pronunciation Key (grt)
adj. great·er, great·est
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  2. Larger in size than others of the same kind.
  3. Large in quantity or number:


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When you say "One great chick"...do you mean size?



great ( P ) Pronunciation Key (grt)
adj. great·er, great·est
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  2. Larger in size than others of the same kind.
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Hey hot stuff! Working for a living! Believe that garbage?!?!?!?
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I can't believe no one has complimented you on that fantastic reference to Fast Times at Ridgemont High... so let me be the first.


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however I will deny the fat chick (and I mean FAT) for ever.


Sure go ahead, continue to live in denial, won't do any good because I hear there are pictures! Nothing wrong with this - that is as long as your friends don't find out. Isn't that sort of the same thing as riding a Modped!

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Dude you're killing me...Have you been saving all those lines up form Dumb and Dumber for just this occasion? :-)

And by the way, then general rule and odds are way better than 1000:1, it's more like 10:1.

1:1 if you go ugly early.
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What's funny is that I know Marisol has probably not watched the movie because it is not French Canadian humor so I can use it on her and it sounds like it is my material!!!
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Even Seinfeld works for her... :-p

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yeah, but all you could see in the picutres was the flesh of a very very large woman (so large there mere act of conciousness would cause her to sweat)...and my feet sticking out from beneath the leviathon female lust...and I am hard to ID by just the bottoms of my feet.

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Just heard the best pick up line the other day... might as well turn this thread into the pick up line thread again...

"If I told you I like your body, would you hold it against me?"

Hehee!
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Did it work?
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"Those pants must be made of mirrors, cause I can see myself in them."
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That is a good one. SAC is coming up with some good ones to use on you huh? If it wasn't his, you know he wrote it down!
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I always read here for a good laugh. Finally had to sign up to reply. Best pick up line. "I may look good to you now, but I am fat when I'm naked!"[reply]



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You have one of these?



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One for each day of the week! Mine's the manlier version with the extra padding down there. LOL!!!



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thanks, pbj crumbs all over the screen.

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I may have to get one of those for my next IM...so much cleaner than peeing off the bike...

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My god, the things that are on the Internet....to keep a womans thighs from "chaffing"

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Oh My GOd...I'm gonna lose my job here if I don't stop...stop...stop STing

You guys are cracking me up!
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Machine washable?????

I may have to throw my washing machine away after washing THAT!
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dear god, where do you find these things? what a visual. I don't think I needed that!
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All I know is I do a search for "mens girdles" to reply to the "I am fat when I am naked" comment - next think you know I am looking at a urinal that you wear....

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[reply]I can't believe no one has complimented you on that fantastic reference to [u]Fast Times at Ridgemont High[/u]... so let me be the first.[/reply]

You sir, are a man of taste and disctinction.

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