I think regular old green tea w/out sweetener is the way to go. I've only found one brand of bottled teas that are unsweetened; Teas Tea. They have seveal different brews and there is always a haiku on the bottle. Very oovy groovey I know , but I love it.

It seems as though "green tea" has kind of become a buzz word to connotate healthfulness; kind of like "oat bran" was a few years ago. Splenda and other artificial sweetener scare me. I don't like sweetened drinks anyway, I'm sweet enough already ;-)

Why would someone sweet the green tea?

Luis

The taste!

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Check out www.adagio.com. My favorite is dragonwell. I also bought one of the intellitea brewers and it works great!

I totally agree w/ QRgirl and LODD. There is no reason to put anything in green tea. Just go with the real stuff. Yum.

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I hope not, I've been using that as a substitute to get my coffee/diet coke consumption down. Good stuff.

I thought green tea had 0 calories??

[reply]I thought green tea had 0 calories??[/reply]

The OP is talking about iced green tea which is sweetened either with sugar or sugar substitute (diet).

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[.reply]I thought green tea had 0 calories??[./reply]

The OP is talking about iced green tea which is sweetened either with sugar or sugar substitute (diet).

and therefore . . .

Diet green tea = green tea + splenda
green tea = green tea + sugar
diet water = diet coke
water = coke
Tofu = pig lard

Green tea has a lot of antioxidants that are proving to be promising in recent studies. I think it is good that you choose the diet one - Splenda has been around a long time and has a safe status as a sweetener.

Most people don't realize that over 50% of the added sugar intake in the US comes from beverages. Further, some studies indicate that beverage calories have little satiety and can cause people to consume too many calories without realizing it.

So, enjoy!

And what is the problem with drinking it how it is supposed to be done? hot and as soon as it get ready so you don't loose any of the great propieties?

LODD

Just read the label. I know their other non diet concoction has high fructose corn syrup.

I'd think you'd do better with water.

Lauren

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[reply]Just read the label. I know their other non diet concoction has high fructose corn syrup.

I'd think you'd do better with water.

Lauren[/reply]

I'll take a look, thanks. You're probably right, I would do better with water. But I usually run before work and drink a quart of water when I get home. So by the time I get to work and grab a bite, another big bottle of water just isn't appealing. I need a little flavor to keep me drinking.

"I need a little flavor to keep me drinking."

I understand... everyone says this. The interesting part is that you get over this need for taste in everything. My clients who havee said this have been fortifying themselves with artificial colors and sugars for so long, they can't truly taste too much - and they are used to flavored/sugared beverages.

If you can do it, go with water for a while. Trust me. Your body and tastebuds will get used to it, and you will also taste your food much better. You don't have to figure out 'which processed drink is better than the next processed drink', because it won't matter. You will do great WITHOUT the additives and crap which will gum up your finely-tuned machine: your body! Soon, you will lose your taste for the processed drinks... and the water will taste delicious anytime.

My humble opinion... and others'.

Lauren

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Try Stash Chai Green Tea. It's delicious. I even use it to flavor my Gatorade or Cytomax. Mixed into the citrus flavor of either one it makes them downright tasty. The little bit of caffeine in them helps keep the motor running. I'm brewing some right now, for this afternoon's ride/run and swim.

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Bering from Germany I think it´s hilarious that there is something as "diet green tea"

omg...

Axel

[reply] It's no carb, no calories...basically no nothing. [/reply]

They used to have something like that called....eh...... oh yeah, water! You can pay for that, too, if you want, at least it doesn't have the foul taste of green tea.

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it's an American thing, yes it is funny..

agree with Lauren, ditch the junk drinks (splenda ? ginseng ? what for ?) and either get used to water or at least go with plain old green tea. Brew it yourself, bottle it at home, save $5/day and get better tea.

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I used to buy Ito En green tea by the case at Costco in Kona, sadly they don't carry it in SF. Of course I can't stand anything sweet in iced tea.



Yummy.

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Agreed. "DIET green tea"????

Anyway, I also suggest just brewing your own green tea. That way you don't have to worry about any of the processed junk. Make a pot and stick it in your fridge. I fill a bottle for my bike to take with me on most long rides...very refreshing.

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The thing about bottled tea is that they use the minimum amount and lowest grades of tea to maximize profits. For brewing tea, especially green tea, you want to use plenty of it. It will not only improve flavor but you get more anti oxidants. Loose leaf tea is best because the companies skimp on the amount of tea and grind extra fine for over extraction.

In most cases the bottler don't even brew the tea. They just grind up the tea real fine and mix it with water like instant coffee.

i don't understand this obsession with westerners with green tea. they make it sound like some miracle juice.

Why not try some real, Japanese powdered green tea? maccha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matcha

There is always a miracle tonic. Right now it is green tea or pomegranite juice.

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I drink both of those, but because I like them. The pomegranite I mix with Pelligrino brecause its way to strong straight, and everything is better with bubbles.

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Throw in some green tea to that tonic and you could have a million dollar product.

hmmmm, note to self.

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Hello All,

From Google: (doesn't mean it is accurate of course)

Cheers,

Neal



Splenda Toxicity Reaction Samples (Updated 2/13/2006)



Splenda, also known as sucralose, is artificial sweetener which is a chlorinated sucrose derivative. Facts about this artificial chemical follows:

• Pre-Approval Research
  Pre-approval research showed that sucralose caused shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage) and enlarged liver and kidneys. The manufacturer put forth two arguments in an attempt to claim that sucralose is not toxic:
  
  
  1. The dose of sucralose in the experiments was high. However, for chemicals that do not have generations of safe use, the dosage tested must be adjusted for variations in potential toxicity within the human population and between humans and rodents. In order to this, toxicologists estimate a variation of effects in the human population of 10 times. In other words, one person may not have effects until a dose of 10 mg per kg of body weight (10 mg/kg) is reached, while another person may have chronic toxicity effects at 1 mg per kg of body weight (1 mg/kg). In addition, it is well known that many chemicals are much more toxic in humans than in rodents (or even monkeys). For example, the chemicals that the sweetener aspartame breaks down into vary from 5 to 50 times more toxic in humans than in rodents. Therefore, toxicologists estimate a further 10 times the dose for differences between human and rodent toxicity for a total of 100 times (10 * 10).
     
     In order to estimate a potential safe dose in humans, one must divide the lowest dose in given to rodents that was seen to have any negative effects on their thymus glands, liver or kidneys by 100. That dose is then known as the maximum Tolerable Daily Intake (TDI) for lifetime use. Keep in mind that the TDI is just an estimate. Some chemicals are much more than 10 times more toxic in humans than in rodents (or will cause cancer in humans in low-dose, long-term exposure and do not cause cancer in rodents at all). A person ingesting the TDI for some chemical may find that it causes cancer or immune system or neurological problems after many years or decades of use. So, if the manufacturer claims that the dose was equivalent to 50 diet sodas, then the TDI would be one half (1/2) of a diet soda, and even that dose may or may not be safe.
     
     
  2. The manufacturer claimed that the sucralose was unpleasant for the rodents to eat in large doses. They said that starvation caused the shruken thymus glands. From the New Scientist (23 Nov 1991, pg 13):
     
     
     [Toxicologist Judith] Bellin reviewed studies on rats starved under experimental conditions, and concluded that their growth rate could be reduced by as much as a third without the thymus losing a significant amount of weight (less than 7 percent). The changes were much more marked in rats fed on sucralose. While the animals' growth rate was reduced by between 7 and 20 percent, their thymuses shrank by as much as 40 percent.
  
  Other adverse effects reported in pre-approval research included:
  
  
  • Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage) (EO56)
  • Enlarged liver and kidneys. (EO57 & E161)
  • Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus (EO51, EO56, EO151)
  • Increased cecal weight (E151)
  • Reduced growth rate (EO57)
  • Decreased red blood cell count (EO55)
  • Hyperplasia of the pelvis (EO57)
  • Extension of the pregnancy period
  • Aborted pregnancy (E134)
  • Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights (EO32)
  • Diarrhea
  
  
• Recent Research
  A possible problem with caecal enlargement and renal mineralization has been seen in post approval animal research.
  
  
• Sucralose Breaks Down
  Despite the manufacturer's mis-statements, sucralose does break down into small amounts of 1,6-dichlorofructose, a chemical that has not been adequately tested in humans.
  
  
• Independent, Long-Term Human Research
  None. Manufacturer's "100's of studies" (some of which show hazards) were clearly inadequate and do not demonstrate safety in long-term use.
  
  
• Chlorinated Pesticides
  The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research.
  
  
• Conclusion
  While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanto's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders.
  
  
• Addendum (October 2, 2000)
  Occasionally, persons emailing ask questions about sucralose research. What follows is a copy of a response one such question. The answer starts by summarizing the aspartame (NutraSweet) issue and then addresses the sucralose issue.
  
  
  Let me start by saying that, as you may know, there is a quickly growing body of evidence demonstrating the toxicity of aspartame. This includes:
  
  
  • Recent European research showing that ingesting aspartame leads to the accumulation of formaldehyde in the brain, other organs and tissues (Formaldehyde has been shown to damage the nervous system, immune system, and cause irreversible genetic damage in humans.)
    
  • An extremely large number of toxicity reactions reported to the FDA and other organizations
    
  • A recent report showing that nearly 100% of independent research has found problems with aspartame.
    
  
  Why is this relevant to the sucralose question? Similar to the aspartame situation 15 years ago:
  
  
  1. Pre-approval test indicated potential toxicity of sucralose.
  2. There are no *independent* controlled human studies on sucralose (similar to 15 years ago for aspartame).
  3. There are no long-term (12-24 months) human studies of sucralose's effects.
  4. There is no monitoring of health effects. It took government agencies decades to agree that there were countless thousands of deaths from tobacco. Why? Simply because there had been no monitoring or epidemiological studies. Without such monitoring and studies, huge effects can easily go unnoticed.
  
  So, without even addressing the pre-approval research showing potential toxicity, it is clear that sucralose has a) no long history (e.g., decades) of safe use, b) no independent monitoring of health effects, c) no long-term human studies, and d) no independent human studies. I would hope that the Precautionary Principle, now commonly used in Europe, would be a guiding force for people who are interested in health. Otherwise, we might as well just use any poorly tested, artificial (lab-created) chemical that has shown potential for long-term toxicity.
  
  As far as the pre-approval research related to sucralose.... As you probably know, pre-approval research is rarely published. It is only available from the FDA by filing a Freedom of Information Act request. However, you can see a very short summary regarding sucralose and shrunken thymus glands in the "New Scientist" (23 November 1991, page 13).

It is very important that people who have any interest in their health stay aware from the highly toxic sweetener, aspartame and other dangerous sweeteners such as sucralose (Splenda), and acesulfame-k (Sunette, Sweet & Safe, Sweet One). Instead, please see the extensive resources for sweeteners on the Healthier Sweetener Resource List.


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I'd never put sugar (or cream) in my green tea. Currently I'm in Japan for work and I picked up my favorite loose green tea (tried it earlier in the year here and was instantly sold on it). Absolutely delicious. A bit pricey at 2100 Yen/100g ($60+/lb) but man is it good. Coming home with 300g which should last me a year.

Most green tea in the US is garbage. I want my green tea to be GREEN. Most of the stuff you get in the US is brown or yellowish.