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I did a quick search to see if I could find something on this topic...but came up with nada.

My chain has been slipping considerably for the last couple of days, so I took the bike into the shop. Initially they told me my chain was stretched and would need to be replaced...but later they changed their opinion towards needing a completely new cassette (as well as chain).

I've only had the existing cassette (dura-ace) on my bike for a little over a year, and would have thought it would last a little longer...but I don't have that much knowledge on the subject.

Is this possible, or am I being fed a line? Guess I'm just pessimistic based on how the recommendations came...
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Re: Cassette question [Crafty] [ In reply to ]
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My opinion would be get the chain replaced and then see how it helps with the slipping. Then if the slipping continues then consider getting the cassette. Just my 2c.

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Re: Cassette question [FreakishPaddy] [ In reply to ]
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How many miles of riding and what type of chain maintenance have you done?

If the chain went thousands of miles with little or no care, it's totally possible that it has stretched (worn, really - they don't literally stretch) to the point where it has worn the cassette out as well. As a chain stretches, it wears the notches in the cassette to match. Hence, putting a brand new chain on a worn cassette will usually result in poor performance. However, it is possible that the new chain will seem to run fine on the old cassette, but if it's worn badly enough, the old cassette will chew through the new chain in record time - so if the cassette is worn badly, you're basically wasting the new chain even if it feels fine and doesn't skip.

For what it's worth, I've had chains wear in as little as 1,500 miles, or last several times that - depending on maintenance and riding conditions. If you maintain your chain and change it before it's too worn out, you should go through several chains before the cassette is toast.
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Re: Cassette question [Crafty] [ In reply to ]
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Life span on these components is highly variable depending on riding style, weather conditions, component care, etc....

Get a new chain only at first. If it fixes the problem, you are are fine. Keep the new chain clean and lubed and it should last a while. If it doesn't fix the problem, get a new cassette also. A few days with the new chain on the old cassette won't have hurt the new chain if you end up needing both.
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Re: Cassette question [John M] [ In reply to ]
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[reply]A few days with the new chain on the old cassette won't have hurt the new chain if you end up needing both.[/reply]

True, but you might not know you "need" both until a month later, when your new chain is shot in 500 miles because the old cassette was bad enough to wear it out, but not bad enough to skip like mad.

In the end, I'd just show the cassette in question to an experienced mechanic and have him evaluate. No one makes a tool to measure cassette wear, but it's pretty obvious to a trained eye.
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Re: Cassette question [I am the walrus] [ In reply to ]
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> No one makes a tool to measure cassette wear

Rohloff does ...

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Re: Cassette question [John M] [ In reply to ]
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"Keep the new chain clean and lubed and it should last a while."

Note the first part -- CLEAN. If all you do is lube it...

What do you get when you add lube to something that's already dirty? Grinding compound.

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Re: Cassette question [brider] [ In reply to ]
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Are there are "experience mechanics" out there that either want to describe/load up pics of what to look for?

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Re: Cassette question [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not an experienced mechanic, but you're looking for teeth that look like shark fins instead of being symmetrical. The effect may be more pronounced on some cogs than others. Compare the shaped of the teeth on the cog you use most to the one you use least (eg, middle vs smallest cogs).
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Re: Cassette question [pedaller] [ In reply to ]
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It doesn't even have to get as far as "shark's teeth" to cause a chain to wear quickly. Just look at the "valleys" on the cogs, and you'll see that the ones you use most will have longer "valleys" than the others.

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