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Are you talking about the old leather soled Vitorria or Cinelli type shoes that you have to nail on the cleats? I think the E-bay would be the only place for those. Businesscycles .com sometimes has some plastic bottom shoes with cleat holes. I have some Shimano cleats for my track bike that use the standard three hole pattern that is on my SIDI shoes. Hope that helps. PM me and I may have some other ideas if I better knew what you wanted. G

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You need to see a shrink.

Talk to the guys at Rivendell Bicycles.

http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/