Swim Bike Run
Slowtwitch.com
  • Login >
Slowtwitch.com
Search menu
Hot Forum Topics

Poll

Comfort While Cycling
How much does comfort while cycling influence your overall race performance?
View Results


Home > Forum > Triathlon Forum > chasing lance - "the last ride"

Triathlon Forum

Back To ForumPrint Thread

Login required to started new threads

Login required to post replies

Tri
Classifieds
Lavender
Jobs
Notices
chasing lance - "the last ride"
Quote | Reply
gregclimbs
Nov 6, 05 17:33
Post #1 of 12 (1950 views)
I posted this on topica - but there are many LA haters/lovers here, so I thought I would share:

in this episode (which is re-airing right now on discoveryHD)...

carmichael shows a chart with lances performance data in it...

I watched it the first time on the tivo, which dumbs down the resoltion
to SD.

tonight I have the HD tv on (which has a freeze frame fuction)...

thanks to HD, I can read all the values and recreate the chart...

all values were on the chart on tv except the power data - this was
back-calculated from kg and w/kg (and added to the display.

It is attached, but for those reading via the web:

http://wattagetraining.com/armstrong.gif

assuming this is not mis-information, perhaps this will be the LAST
conversation about his real numbers...of course, most of these are "out
of competition (feb/march) with the last point at may)...

greg
www.wattagetraining.com
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
jern
Nov 6, 05 17:44
Post #2 of 12 (1900 views)
nice job
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Rappstar
Nov 6, 05 18:54
Post #3 of 12 (1783 views)
Great stuff! Interesting to see the body fat is not in the basement... I misread the 8.2 as 3.2, but then looking at the graph realized it really was 8.2... Still, amazing numbers!!
"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Sojourner
Nov 6, 05 19:02
Post #4 of 12 (1748 views)
i saw this on topica, but never did find out how long they were sustained. can you tell us how long these bouts were? i havn't seen the program so i have no clue.
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [Sojourner] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
gregclimbs
Nov 6, 05 19:12
Post #5 of 12 (1723 views)
[reply]i saw this on topica, but never did find out how long they were sustained. can you tell us how long these bouts were? i havn't seen the program so i have no clue.[/reply]

that isn't specifically stated, however, I would guess based on the implication in the show and from the reading of [i]Lance Armstrong's War[/i] that (unless someone wants to check the UCI calendar for the past couple of years agains the <euro> dates on the plot) that these are Ferrari hillclimb test at ~1 hr power...

hope that helps...

greg
www.wattagetraining.com
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Meebo
Nov 6, 05 20:32
Post #6 of 12 (1617 views)
Interesting... contrary to (I believe) Carmichael's assertion that Lance weighed in the 150-155 pound range, it shows Lance to be between 170-174 pounds.
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [Double-Avocados] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Rappstar
Nov 6, 05 20:49
Post #7 of 12 (1580 views)
Isn't Carmichaels weight in-season. Given his relatively high fat % and the date (march), I'd say he is probably a fair bit above tour weight. Not sure he is 15-20 lbs above, but perhaps somewhere in there. However, after reading "Lance Armstrong's War," I'm inclined to believe Carmichale and Lance are not much more than business partners. Carmichael was willing to pay Lance for the use of his name and created the global CTS brand out of a relationship that was likely not very significant. I'd say it is the coaching equivalent of Lance riding those rebadged Litespeeds; Carmichael was just a rebadged coach...
"Non est ad astra mollis e terris via." - Seneca | rappstar.com | FB - Rappstar Racing | IG - @jordanrapp
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
gregclimbs
Nov 6, 05 21:15
Post #8 of 12 (1549 views)
read LAW... lance is a part owner of CTS - and actually almost anything team postal related (except maybe nike?)....



the weight COULD be with bike...UCI limit being ~14.98lbs(?)...



g

greg
www.wattagetraining.com
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
kemfish
Nov 7, 05 0:04
Post #9 of 12 (1472 views)
Seems to show a lack of motivation in the offseason with weight/bodyfat increasing and power (perhaps) down a little. Pretty consistent with what was being put out over the years with his interst in the sport waning and his expressed desire to spend more time with the kids. I'd love to see how the numbers looked in the last week of June each year.

He was a monster in 2001, poor Jan stood no chance.

Keith
Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [gregclimbs] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Meebo
Nov 7, 05 0:22
Post #10 of 12 (1459 views)
People, people, people... please learn how to post pictures ;-)

For those of you tired of cutting and pasting to see what we're talking about here:




Quote Reply
Re: chasing lance - "the last ride" [Double-Avocados] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
gregclimbs
Nov 7, 05 5:48
Post #11 of 12 (1294 views)
[reply]People, people, people... please learn how to post pictures ;-)

For those of you tired of cutting and pasting to see what we're talking about here:

[/reply]

some of us just don't want to use IE...

:P

g

greg
www.wattagetraining.com
Quote Reply
CARMICHEAL??? [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
foil
Nov 7, 05 7:05
Post #12 of 12 (1180 views)
Does anyone have any thoughts on this 'supposed' coach of Lance - Chris Carmicheal? I have a suspicion that he is a 'media' coach, hired to do those interviews and 'appear' to be a direct link to Lance Armstrong. Some of the things he has said seem a bit off key. Like during last year's tour, he talked about transitioning from flatland riding to climbing. He mentioned that Lance has to get used to the slower cadences, like (60-70 rpm's) (I can't remember the exact numbers he used, but they were close this this. Well, has anyone ever seen Lance pedal at 60-70 rpm, even on a climb? How about 70-80 rpm? Or even 80-90? How could Lance's personal coach not even know Lance's pedaling style?

(y foiler)


Last edited by: foil: Nov 7, 05 7:23
Quote Reply
Back To ForumPrint Thread

Our Partners

transition-DOT-area-AT-slowtwitch-DOT-com

Advertise with us

©1999-2024 Slowtwitch, Inc., and Slowtwitch.com
Reproduction of material from any Slowtwitch.com page
without written permission is strictly prohibited.