I'm willing to bet that, next time, he will...

Who the hell gets chapped lips in 80% humidity or whatever it was?

For the spf?

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Maybe he planned on applying it to other sensitive parts if the body...

Even the leapfrogging doesn't sound like the whole story. At Chattanooga and many other IM courses it is easy to leapfrog and see someone ~8 times during a two loop run. How much leapfrogging is too much?

Yeah, I don't think the "full story" headline is accurate either LOL Leapfrogging is fine, pacing or OA is not.

Nope, and please don't assume you know what I am referring to. I am referring to ILLEGAL drafting, not 10m out (or 12), not slingshotting during a legal pass, none of that. I'm referring to the peletons of 20+ blatantly sitting on wheels that are becoming the norm and that so many people just shrug and say "what can you do?" about, yet chapstick???!?!?!?!?!? "Now THAT. THAT is just TOO much!".

Classic ST moral relativism.

Im guilty of it too, but, FFS, chapstick? Of all the things to take a stand on the rules being rules, chapstick is about the worst Ive ever heard

i saw his wife pacing him on the run course. the first thing i thought of was.... well, that's not allowed. but i didn't really care.

giving splits is one thing, cycling along and cheering is one thing. but doing them both, with riding along side at times can be seen as pacing...

i mean, don't some coaches sit on the course and give splits from time to time?

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Apparently any.

The irony! I can barely stand it!

I actually see coaches riding near their athletes quite frequently in Ironmans. It blows my mind that they don't understand this is illegal.

yes. I can see why many would see all of that as pacing. so I can understand if an official is seeing these different things and issues penalties/DQs. Seems he (or his wife did by leapfrogging and then pacing him on the run) put them in a difficult position to make a call.

I was in a marathon once and part was on a multi-use path and a guy had his wife riding along side him on her bike and providing him water and food along the way. This wasn't a BQ marathon and he was in my range of 3:45 marathon time so nobody cared and their were no officials on course to care anyway.

What is it that you find ironic?

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Or do they understand and not care?

Ok show me where on this forum someone said it was acceptable to blantantly draft (illegally) and not one person interjected in.

I'm with you that it's a bit much it being chapstick, but where do you draw the line? Like my other post stated, this just leads to more and more things. Oh it's just a gel.... 1 gel isn't going to give him and advantage......

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So having someone give you splits (between you and the guy ahead of you) at multiple places during an IM run is illegal?

Do the pros not get splits from people associated with the race during the race?

This was BY FAR more prevalent at IMChoo than drafting, from my perspective. I saw one case of drafting. I saw 8-10 cases of somebody (coach, SO, friend, etc.) running or biking along side a runner for 100+ yards, giving encouragement, splits, placing, etc.

Well according to the rule book, you get DQd after three penalties. So there were likely two prior occurrences of other rule violations throughout the race for him before the Chap Stick incident. So yeah, there's likely more information being left out of the story.

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Perhaps I'm the only person in the world who owns a Garmin watch and uses that watch to help pacing? What the hell do I need my wife to run beside me for?

Imagine she may have been tracking the others in his age group and letting him know splits.

Or more?

What's the difference between this action, and having a local resident spray runners down with a garden hose as they pass? In 94 degree heat, that's certainly "outside assistance." If the latter is an offense, half of last week's Augusta field would be DQ'ed.

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Aha...

I hope that's not illegal. I do that for my wife all the time. In races that end with an out-and-back run, I always count the women and tell her what place she's in and how far back/ahead she is.