Not enough money to pay top level pros. In Tri, most of the top level guys have multiple sponsorships, but most pro runners just have one big one, which costs a fair bit more.

first - u have the shoes -why don't you try and make your own mind, everyone is dfifferent. But please read the small print and don't go for 16miler in your new shoes as you can kill your calves...

secondly - with athletes sponsorship is a big factor

thirdly - have you seen how much newton cost vs other running shoes

and lastly i think tri scene has been proven as very willing to try to adapt to new fads much quicker; its a smaller community of early adopters - markters wet dream

i have no factual information to back this up, but i'd guess that's right. they all have sponsorships from other companies - adidas, asics, etc. i bet if newton made them a good enough offer, they'd take it.

Fad?? Natural running/Chi running is hardly a fad. It's just becoming mainstream as exercise, running, triathlons become more popular in the US.

It's more of people having an awareness and knowledge than a fad. It's not like anyone is going to learn to run correctly and decide 2 years from now to give it up because it's "played out" or whatever happens to a fad.

so all the people who are not running in newtons are running wrong and have not figured out how to run correctly? I wonder how fast the Kenyons would be if they became enlightened?

for most people, newtons shoes dont work for them.

you can run "correctly" as you put it in any shoe, not necessarily newtons;

however my argument here wasn't derogatory - I mean triathletes as such are much more prone to be happy to try something totally new - like newton or now on running - as a group tri people are early adopters

and as mentioned before everyone is different, i tried newtons and they didn't work for me although i am forefoot striker - but have training partners who fly in them. Each to their own.

I started using Newtons this spring and it took awhile to adopt to the running style and to get the legs used to that running style but after that initial building into the shoes, I was and am hooked. I'm a big believer in the shoe. He is a report and granted it may need to be taken with a grain of salt but come up with your own conclusion.

http://newtonrunning.com/...ce/shoe-test-results

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Where did I say everyone had to wear Newton's? I think I said "natural running/Chi running" isn't a fad didn't I? There are plenty of people who run this way without Newton's.

My point is that Natural running and the awareness of it isn't going away. It will only get more popular keeping Newton shoes in demand as they help introduce runners to natural running.

Holy. Shit.

because newtons are a fad, so all of a sudden this shoe company comes out they the others dont know about? its hilarious to me, how most triathletes will buy into all the geeky gear..its not rocket science with getting faster :) ...has def pushed me away from the sport the last few years...

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You forgot the pink font. You're joking, right?

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newton's light weight racer is around 8.5 ounces. Most elite runners are in shoes that come in around 6-7 ounces for a marathon flat. They don't need to lugs. They already have great form. That's why they're elites. Triathletes are generally crappy runners.

Now that I think about it... now that Crowie got a proper aero bike, maybe next year he'll drop Newton as a sponsor and put on a proper pair of racing flats and go 2:39!

1. Please spellcheck. Sorry, but I'm an equal-opportunity critic when it comes to posts constructed as poorly as yours.
2. As others have said, you should definitely formulate your own opinion about the shoes, as opposed to relying on the opinions of others. You have 60 days to evaluate the shoes...use them.
3. One of the reasons African marathoners don't use Newtons is that it is illogical to put on a shoe that weighs something like 2-3 times as much as their current racing flats. Their run technique is brilliant in spite of, not because of the shoes they wear, and they don't need a shoe that weighs 10oz to accomplish what they could already do in a 4oz shoe. One of my professors, a pro marathoner himself, says that until he got sponsored he was just going out and buying the simplest cushioning shoe he could find for training. Once he got sponsored, the only difference was that someone was buying those shoes for him...When your run technique is as efficient as the top marathoners', a more "complicated" shoe would probably be worse, not better.

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This might be difficult to do considering he signed a lifetime contract with Newton......

Actually, you have it backwards. They have a racing flat that is 5.8 onces.

http://www.newtonrunning.com/...shoes/men-racers/mv2

Funny...

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Now with that out of the way...Newton's are a love/hate game. You either buy wholesale into their shoe design, or you don't. I tried it; doesn't work for me. Puts me a little too far forward, and the ride's too unforgiving out back. But if the shoe matches your technique, then great.

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A decent percentage of triathletes will buy anything that claims to make running easier without having to run more, regardless of the cost. Despite not showing any improvement, they will then generally argue strongly that the product makes them faster.

It depends on your definition of elite, but my kid's x-country coach was a NCAA all American and just qualified for the Olympic trials marathon. He runs in Newtons

(He offers the kids a deal, but doesn't push the shoes on them..I think 1-2 are running in the Newtons as well)

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If you look at the top marathoners sponsored by Nike, Adidas, and Asics - they all race in shoes with < 5mm drop (Nike Streak 3's, Adidas Rockets, Asics Piranha's). Basically the same foot strike pattern without the raised pods. I don't know if the raised pods are really necessary - I tried on the zero drop Altra's and liked them. They're essentially doing the same thing without the raised forefoot pods.

To your point on drop, not so fast: Streaks are 10 mm, Piranhas are 5, Rockets are 6.

There's also the Hasegawa study showing that the majority of elites rearfoot strike...but that's probably throwing some gasoline in this thread.

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I'll say it's a fad. Everyone locally who "preached" barefoot running/chi/natural/pose/etc all now go towards "Minimalist" running. They've all redefined Pose/Chi as a method of running.

You know what they all say now? Pretty much what rroof, barryp and the other "running" guru's on here say. Keep the barefoot to striders on the grass. If you can do minimalist shoes do it, but not everyone can use them (I'm one of them). You do NOT need newtons to learn how to run properly.

There's also a common misconception (sorry CJAthey) that "heel striking" involves the heel touching the ground at all...period. I've only heard that from barefoot/chi/natural/post/newton guys. I've never heard that from a running coach.


I ran in the Brooks Ghost (poor man newtons) and liked them, but didn't see the need for lugs. I got 2nd at a local 5k where 10+ guys (all triathletes) showed up in a full race kit and newtons. Their form was awful and they all got chicked many times. Maybe if they ran in supportive shoes, they would have gotten 2nd place like me.

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