I am curious to get my vocabulary correct. When someone uses the term "long course" are they referring to just 140.6, or is it 70.3 and 140.6?
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Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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50m
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Re: What is "Long Course" [JasoninHalifax]
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haha... I have never been in a 50m pool in my life. That is on my workout bucket list, but none are convenient for me.
Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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70.3 and up
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Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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70.3 = Long Course 140.6 = ultra
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Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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My understanding is that there is sprint distance, olympic (short course), middle distance (70.3) and long course (140.6). At least that's what they call it in Germany.
Re: What is "Long Course" [Im-a-miler]
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Im-a-miler wrote:
70.3 = Long Course 140.6 = ultrai would politely disagree. 70.3 / half-iron and IM / 140.6 / iron-distance = long-course. IM / 140.6 / iron-distance is not ultra. ultra, IMHO, is longer than that.
Re: What is "Long Course" [adablduya1]
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I do believe according to USAT Long Course=70.3 and Ultra-Distance=140.6
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Re: What is "Long Course" [Im-a-miler]
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Used to be the Nice distance that Mark Allen rulled at 4k, 120k, 30k
Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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ITU has a World Championship Long DISTANCE event that is 4K swim, 120k bike, and 30K run. Some people call this long course.
It is also used as a catch all term for races HIM or longer, but less than Ironman; frequently used by race directors since they can't use the term IronAnything. Note that Ironman distance is generically called ultra distance.
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It is also used as a catch all term for races HIM or longer, but less than Ironman; frequently used by race directors since they can't use the term IronAnything. Note that Ironman distance is generically called ultra distance.
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Re: What is "Long Course" [JasoninHalifax]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
50m :-)
Can't believe I laughed at that. What have I become?
Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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The opposite of IMTX
Re: What is "Long Course" [rsmoylan]
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rsmoylan wrote:
I do believe according to USAT Long Course=70.3 and Ultra-Distance=140.6USAT observes a course as "long course" that has a bike leg of 45km or longer. So Elkhart Lake here in Wisconsin, a race that has a 45k bike leg in an olympic distance race is considered "long course" by USAT.
Re: What is "Long Course" [DJRed]
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DJRed wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
50m :-)
Can't believe I laughed at that. What have I become?
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Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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personally i call anything olympic-ish and under short course, and anything 70.3-ish and over long course. This is more to differentiate the style of racing more than a finite term that defines length of race. I call myself a short course guy, a lot of people I train with are long course people. I worry about sucking in enough oxygen during a race, they worry about sucking in enough calories.
Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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anything longer what than i trained for :-)
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Re: What is "Long Course" [cyclenutnz]
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cyclenutnz wrote:
The opposite of IMTXHa! IMTX = Short Course IMCHOO = Long Course
Re: What is "Long Course" [MxRoe]
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Same in the U.K. So I assume it's just different for Europe in general. 70.3 is always called middle distance over here with 140.6 being long distance, very rarely hear the wording long course unless it's reference to 50m pools!
Re: What is "Long Course" [Pb]
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Pb wrote:
Same in the U.K. So I assume it's just different for Europe in general. 70.3 is always called middle distance over here with 140.6 being long distance, very rarely hear the wording long course unless it's reference to 50m pools!70.3 = middle distance
140.6 = long
That was always my understanding.
But maybe the US do it differently.
Re: What is "Long Course" [exxxviii]
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Re: What is "Long Course" [Im-a-miler]
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Im-a-miler wrote:
70.3 = Long Course 140.6 = ultraI politely disagree
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Re: What is "Long Course" [chuy]
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Any race that takes the the winner more than 2:20 to complete.
Re: What is "Long Course" [georgereid]
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totally agree with this
Re: What is "Long Course" [alfredallen]
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Long ends when Ultra begins, and Ultra-triathlon beginning with a double ironman distance ...
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Im-a-miler wrote:
70.3 = Long Course 140.6 = ultraThis was the old ITU delineation of distances. They now refer to Middle distance referring to 70.3 type distances, and Long distance referring to longer (IM, or ITU LD distances, which are a bit different).
According to the definitions in the current ITU rule book (as updated in Dec 2016): (all reported as S/B/R)
Super Sprint: 250-300m/5-8km/1.7-3.5km
Sprint: up to 750m/Up to 20km/Up to 5km
Standard: 1500m/40km/10km
Middle distance: 1900m-3000m/80-90km/20-21km
Long distance: 1000m-4000m/100km-200km/10-42.2km
There's considerable overlap between leg lengths, and realizing that non ITU championship events may straddle some of these categories... But what they do help guide are some of the application of rules (i.e. middle and long distance you get DQd on your 3rd drafting violation, whereas sprint and standard, you would get DQ'd after 2, etc.).
In terms of course, that can easily get confused with distance. I'm not sure about the OP, but a more accurate description would be single loop, out and back, point to point, or multi-lap. realizing that there can be large variation in the length of the laps on any of the segments from race to race. The terminology used by RDs is inconsistent, but if it's something that matters to you, you should be looking at the course maps before signing up for races (realizing that they are likely tentative) to ensure they meet your desires (some people get bored with multi-lap races, and want one big loop or 1 out and back lap, others want shorter multi-loop courses, so that friends and family get to see them more often... some want a balance, multiple loops for family and friends to see you, but the loops long enough that it doesn't feel like a track meet with too many loops of the same course)... and then some of us just want to race and don't care whether it's looped, out and back, point to point or multi-lap (my bias is in the last group, seeing as I spent years racing track and indoor track, and then criteriums, which meant being at peace with running or riding in circles)...