Sort of my point, though not for the same reason as you perhaps.

This case is overwhelming, against a rich, white guy who chose to not even try attacking it head on, because he was so guilty.

Any suggestion of aligned fates between LA and the sort of person who, though innocent, gets executed, says more about the person trying to make the comparison than anything else. Dangerously ignorant.

So lets see the USADA are ok with riders that apparently confess to doping, letting them ride on, continue to race, continue to hold team places while riders that are clean are forced to watch them perform.......Shame on USADA, you cannot ever let someone compete against other athletes when you know they are dirty.....is that not the one sole job they have, to protect clean athletes from athletes that dope.

And I don't want to hear about this is the way the U.S. justice system works, protecting witnesses, these were dirty riders, they had no place competing anywhere in the world when the USADA knew they were dirty, not US justice, but world justice demands that....Shameful....Makes me wonder what other deals the USADA might have done.....Any athletes that respresented the US anywhere in the world, in a sport governed by the USADA can now be doubted, thanks to this action...Shameful, but true, how can we know that anyone on the 2012 US Olympic team was really clean, they might have done a "deal"....Hopefully WADA will demand that all known dirty athletes be named, or not allow any US athletes to compete anywhere.

Notice I didn't mention him ?.......don't need too, he was banned as soon as they had evidence, so should all the others.....back dated suspensions is pure BS

What's a snitch/informant?....not much difference here is there. Both riders and informants are 'dirty' but get reduced sentences (if any) for providing info to take down the big guns.

My point is that.... after this.....How can any US athlete compete anywhere without now being under suspicion ?....he might be a snitch, he took drugs but the USADA gave him a hall pass....not just cycling any sport......and think about athletes that have been directly affected by US cyclist that were known drug cheats taking a place in a race that should have gone to a clean rider.....could someone's career been affected forever by this....someone please tell me that ALL of the US Olympic team was clean, that none of them had a 'deal" with the USADA.....Prove it, because from now on, I will look at every single US athlete and wonder......is the USADA giving a cheat a free run ?.......I would love the UCI to ban all US riders, until the USADA provides evidence that they are individually clean

Sure about that? Could be $8m right here:

http://www.velonation.com/...idering-options.aspx

Looks like Lance "alllegedly" made Kristen hand off drugs to riders in tin foil.

No wonder she left his ass.

"Armstrong took legal action and eventually won because the original SCA Promotions contract didn’t include stipulations about doping. The company ended up paying the sum in question as well as an additional $2.5 million in interest and legal fees."


I'm of course no lawyer, but I don't see how being convicted of doping would change this one bit......since the original verdict was made payable since the contact didn't include a doping stipulation.

Michael

To me it's more like worshiping your catholic priest, finding out there is overwhelming evidence of him being a child-molestor, and then having to defend him as he denies it over and over. And, no, I'm not trying to equate doping/lying/cheating/bullying/etc. with abusing children.

I would think that ST would the best place for the most rabid conversation on this topic.

But his lame thread only has 250+ posts.

Over on ESPN's comment thread:

http://espn.go.com/...armstrong-usada-says

there is already 1250+ comments! My favorite one so far (just from a cursory look):

"if everyone on the Postal team doped, how come my mail doesn't come on time?"

ST has got to pick it up!

You're delusional. What USADA has done here with an investigation into a team from their own country is unprecedented. Athletes will generally be under greater suspicion if they are from countries who exercise no oversight into doping.

If there does turn out to be some useless punishment for these other riders, I think that is a mistake. Though it's hard to balance the need of encouraging riders to be open with their past with the desire for some form of punishment.

I would think that ST would the best place for the most rabid conversation on this topic.

But his lame thread only has 250+ posts.

Over on ESPN's comment thread:

http://espn.go.com/...armstrong-usada-says

there is already 1250+ comments! My favorite one so far (just from a cursory look):

"if everyone on the Postal team doped, how come my mail doesn't come on time?"

ST has got to pick it up!