Pretty sure this video series won't work for the same age group at IMCDA. If you're M35-39 and going to CDA, don't bother with watching this. :)

I'm a few videos into the series. It starts slow but definitely good info in there. One of the references he mentions, swimsmooth.com, has some good stuff too!

Thanks so much, what a great speaker!

Great videos,- thanks! Technique stuff was mostly reinforcement and clarification of what I've been aspiring for (with a couple solid indications of useless crap I need to quit), and the stuff about training planning/balance/duration/frequency/consistency was a major eye-opener. As a lousy swimmer, this made me want to re-evaluate everything and make some big changes. [reply

Thanks for posting. Here's a link to Joel Filliol's top 20 that Gerry mentions at the beginning of the second video:

http://joelfilliol.blogspot.com/2012/01/most-popular-post-on-this-blog-is-is.html

amazing video series.

Mind you, the 4x1000 workouts he mentioned with two blocks of 10x100's inside at 85-90% output do not sound like fun at all.... but to be honest it inspires me to do something like this to push through the 1:25/100m range that im at.

Half way through that video series it gets quite good.... thanks for posting.

I'm pretty sure he never said it was easy ;) haha consistency and triathletes don't swim fast enough were the two big things I got out of it for sure. Glad you enjoyed them.

Brent

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Excellent, thanks for posting.

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came across this video of him on vimeo. good stuff.

http://vimeo.com/49203338


Wish we had this where i live.

Does anyone know exactly what the 4 x 1000 set was? I wrote it down afterwards from memory and think it was something like this but can't recall exactly where and in which video it was>
20 minutes warm up
4 x 250 band, buoy and snorkel 20 sec break. 70-75-80-85%
10 x 100 @ 85% HR 3-7 secs rest
2 x 500, buoy and snorkel @ 75% focus on mechanics
10 x 100 @ 90% 30-60 secs rest b/w intervals
What is the break between each 1000?

That's pretty much the set that he described. I think it was something like 30-60 seconds in between the sets. I liked his description of the first set of 100's - the 'shit and go' set, where you touch the wall, look at the clock, say 'oh shit,' then go again.

For me, as a slower swimmer (34 min HIM swim), I made his sets into 4x800 (4x200, 8x100, 2x400, 8x100). With a warmup and brief cool down, I get around 4200 yards in 1:15 or so. It has actually made my swims this past week go pretty quickly, as I'm just focusing on the current set.

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Might I suggest you amend the tittle to "Tower 26 Swimming Lecture with Gerry Rodrigues"? This series is too good to not be easily located easily with a search.

I particularly liked the 'no drills' part. I am pretty sure that drills have done very little for me except allow me to claim that time as part of a swim workout without helping me get faster.

Thanks for posting this.

I am going to attempt to use this program in prep for next season. I like the big 90 minute session, and was able to copy that down. I'll definitely be starting with the 4 X 600 sets!

My question is, besides this big set, what are some of you doing for the other 2 - 3 weekly sessions? Shorter high intensity technique sessions with the buoys and snorkel? Repeat - repeat?

A second question. In the videos he briefly touches on getting the arm from horizontal to vertical to start the pull. Getting from horizontal to vertical has always been a challenge. The other day I was experimenting with timing this action with the entry of the opposite arm. Is it a timing thing, or is it more of a strength issue to get the arm from horizontal to vertical?

My 2 cents. For me, it seems that the main limitation on attaining the EVF position is one of shoulder flexibility - being able to internally rotate the shoulder enough to attain the proper position early in the stroke. If you have tight shoulders, the best you can do is LVF. Many adult onset swimmers just do not have the flexibility to do what seems easy to long time swimmers. Once you can attain the position, then you need to build the strength, because it is a movement unlike anything else in sports. Peter

Thank you for the positive feedback.

Regarding elbow position, the two two key points are:
1) make sure your elbow is always above your wrist;
2) Keep your finger tips pointed toward the pool's bottom.

Do that with force, and train it a lot; you'll get faster.

What jumper stated is correct.

Focus on a firm hand pushing water with force toward your feet. One of the biggest flaws in slower to moderate speed triathletes/swimmers is what I refer to as "petting the kitty" i.e. too gentle of a hand going through the power phase as if they are petting a kitten. It's too gentle, needing more force. Be gentle on your recovery, get to work when your hand is in the water.

Someone sent a direct message regarding drills. Drills are important but many of the conventional drills for SWIMMERS would not apply to triathletes. Drills that George Bovell (world class 50 m swimmer) does as mentioned in an article by another coach has little to no relevance to triathletes. Just as drills Usian Bolt does would have little relevance. Learn to hold your body tautly and keep it aligned (head, hips feet in a straight line), apply load, ie. proper training, and you'll get plenty fast for triathlon. Don't over complicate it.

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Hello Gerry, and thanks for replying to a question you must get asked a thousand times! I think I understand what to do once my arm is more or less vertical with my fingers pointing down. It's that 90 degree transition from roughly horizontal to the vertical fingers pointing down that I'm trying to get a feel for. The higher elbow puts my arm in a better position to start, I get that too, but what is that initiates the movement. Jumper mentioned that it is an un-natural movement for a late bloomer. It probably means I have a balance issue as well. That's why I was wondering if that 90 degree transition has to be co-ordinated with the opposite arm. Never mind, sounds like I'm making it complicated.

That aside, I really liked the way you presented your thoughts on tri specific swimming. The taught alignment is something I'm really focusing on. Thanks again.

Gerry,

Can you explain the comment about not dropping the finger tips at the start of the catch which differs from the advice of the Swim Smooth folks? IIRC, you said that the hand should remain in line with the arm with no break at the wrist.

Thanks,
Ian

Just an honest question -

Any triathletes out there actually man up enough to do that 4000 workout as Gerry recommended? That's a tough one!

Awesome serious. Permanent bookmark for me!

I really think that if you focus on...

- keeping your wrist in line with your forearm at all times
- fingertips pointed down as mentioned
- maybe ever so slightly lead with your fingertips downward at the beginning of the stroke
- press down with your entire arm
- actually keep a relatively straight arm

You won't have much of a bend in your arm or 'high elbow catch' until you get to 45 degrees or more below the surface of the water, and you certainly won't have an 'early vertical forearm'. I really think though that the number of swimmers who 'think' that they have an EVF is much much lower than you would think. Much much lower than a lot of coaches would have you think.

Grant Hackett has one yeah. Thorpe yeah. Janet Evans, nope at least in the terms that most people are talking about. But all of these swimmers and every decent swimmer have a 'high elbow' in the sense that it is always above their hand. The examples commonly used are great examples and ones that we can all learn from. But, they are all really really physically strong swimmers that are commonly used. And, they have massive massive kicks, which generally means they have a much slower turnover. Again, you can learn something from all of them.

Here's one that a lot of people probably use, or at least one very similar to this one. Hackett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhQfPokRMA0

And, here's Janet Evans. No offense to triathletes, but their physique is probably a lot more similar to Evans than Hackett/Thorpe/Phelps. And her technique is probably a bit closer to the 'high turnover' swimming that was brought up on a different thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71CN4yNMgtY

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Different link to the video series that includes a description of each of the videos:
http://www.purplepatchfitness.com/...t-us-page-guest-blog

Resurrecting an old thread here, but I noticed the videos are private. Do you or anyone else have another link to them?

Here are links to the Swim Smooth videos on an efficient freestyle stroke. They include some footage of Janet Evans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8SEJpvZSOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yiSZP4PQCs

Boo, these videos have gone private. Was going to send them to a friend

Unfortunate, these were a classic

I didn't get a chance to watch these before they went private. Are they going to be packaged for sale, or was there some other reason for them to be made private? I'd love to check them out based on the comments others have made.

PSA: Looks like these are back up!

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