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Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST
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Hey all, so as part of the whole focus on indoor training, we - in this case meaning both of my own "we's," Slowtwitch & Zwift - are launching a weekly indoor ride. We aim to get Dan to lead a bunch of these as well as a lot of other much more interesting pros, but as the resident Zwifter at Slowtwitch and resident Slowtwitcher at Zwift, I figured it was appropriate that I lead week 1...

For those of you who have never done a group workout in Zwift, we alter the way the game works so that everyone sticks together regardless of power output. As long as you are pedaling, the game keeps you together. So it allows people to ride together regardless of actual power output.

For those of you have never done a workout of any kind in Zwift, we tailor all workouts to your FTP, so we're all set to do the same % of FTP for each block of the workout.

Happy to answer any questions. If you are a Zwifter, you can register for the event in ZML; just filter by Group Workouts and swipe ahead to next Tuesday.

Hope you see some of you there.

http://zwift.com/events/view/37632


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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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very cool! thanks to everyone involved organizing these.

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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Wouldn't mind trying that but 4pm PST is midnight GMT so the timing isn't going to work for me. Hope it goes well.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Same here ... but what's wrong about sitting on your trainer @ midnight!? ;-)
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [motorcity] [ In reply to ]
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An angry partner waiting in bed and having to get up for work at 6am?!
Other than that, I'd be fine with it!
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome, do we get to use the disc wheel? This is slowtwitch after all....
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Would your partner typically not sleep by midnight? ;-) But I get the 6am-getting-up-issue. 6am for work or for a workout?!? ;-)
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [motorcity] [ In reply to ]
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motorcity wrote:
Same here ... but what's wrong about sitting on your trainer @ midnight!? ;-)

perhaps we could have TWO slowtwitch weekly rides. one for the brits and other people who ride their trainers on the correct side of the road, and the other for weirdos like me. and maybe a third for the aussies, who are none of the above.


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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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No matter if left or right or in the middle is the correct side of the road. But I want to make sure that I do not want to be recognized as driving on the left side of the road! ;-)

Well, not sure about others, but typically 7 or 8pm might work for most Europeans, I guess. So, 10 or 11am PST.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [motorcity] [ In reply to ]
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motorcity wrote:
No matter if left or right or in the middle is the correct side of the road. But I want to make sure that I do not want to be recognized as driving on the left side of the road! Well, not sure about others, but typically 7 or 8pm might work for most Europeans, I guess. So, 10 or 11am PST.

that i could do. 10am pacific sounds pretty good to me.


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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [motorcity] [ In reply to ]
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motorcity wrote:
No matter if left or right or in the middle is the correct side of the road. But I want to make sure that I do not want to be recognized as driving on the left side of the road! Well, not sure about others, but typically 7 or 8pm might work for most Europeans, I guess. So, 10 or 11am PST.

But then it's 10am to 1pm everywhere in mainland USA. 99% of us are at work.

Maybe there should be a North American-centric ST ride and a Euro-centric ST ride. Have Jordan/Dan/Whoever captain the N.A. ride and some well known Euro ST'er captain the Euro ride.

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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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that's 8pm my time. Nice!

I should be able to swing it, but will have to talk it over with my wife to switch my tuesday masters swim night to another night of the week. and actually sign up for zwift....

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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
motorcity wrote:
No matter if left or right or in the middle is the correct side of the road. But I want to make sure that I do not want to be recognized as driving on the left side of the road! Well, not sure about others, but typically 7 or 8pm might work for most Europeans, I guess. So, 10 or 11am PST.


But then it's 10am to 1pm everywhere in mainland USA. 99% of us are at work.

Maybe there should be a North American-centric ST ride and a Euro-centric ST ride. Have Jordan/Dan/Whoever captain the N.A. ride and some well known Euro ST'er captain the Euro ride.

I believe the statement by Dan was:
  • "one for the brits and other people who ride their trainers on the correct side of the road": Brit (and Europeans)
  • "and the other for weirdos like me": US
  • "and maybe a third for the aussies, who are none of the above.": Aussies

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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
I might have to finally join Zwift!! It has been over two years since I tried it at the Kona Slowtwitch party. Very cool. Will all the group rides be no-drop rides?
I ride lots on Zwift but haven't tried the group workouts yet. As I understand it they shelve the normal power based speed physics model and just set a speed for the group so that everyone goes the same speed so long as you keep pedaling. I think you only get dropped if you actually stop pedaling.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [motorcity] [ In reply to ]
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motorcity wrote:
Would your partner typically not sleep by midnight? ;-) But I get the 6am-getting-up-issue. 6am for work or for a workout?!? ;-)
6am for work.
We usually go to bed about midnight but I'm up for work between 5:30 and 6:30, it varies. I don't normally do morning training.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Don't forget UK and Ireland are on Western European time (GMT/UTC) while most of Europe such as France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Austria, Poland, etc are all on Central European time (UTC+1) and then there are the countires further east that are another hour ahead but let's ignore them ;)

I'm guessing 18:30 to 21:00 local time is the window that will catch most people. I'd certainly have difficulty making anything earlier than 18:30 most days.

I think a start time of 18:30 UTC will accommodate most people for for the Europe targeted ride. That'll be 18:30 in Ireland & UK, 19:30 in Central Europe, and 20:30 in Eastern Europe.
19:00 would be best for me personally but then Eastern Europe is getting late.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Are there any free Zwift codes longer than the 7 days ?
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Just a pet peeve, but is there a reason they are not promoting helmet use? I see riders with no helmets and don't feel that's a very smart or healthy way to promote. Maybe the old man in me, but drives me nuts.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not sure I agree with the "not promoting helmet use." Zwift is not real. You can't crash. You do not need a helmet. The idea that somehow by not wearing a helmet in the virtual world that we are somehow encouraging a lack of helmet use just doesn't seem to me to have any actual evidence supporting it.

Reminds me a lot of the discussion about violent video games and real world violence, something where the evidence just isn't very strong in terms of showing correlation or causation: https://www.health.harvard.edu/...mes-and-young-people

Certainly, in my own case, I never wear a helmet in Zwift. But I would never even consider not wearing a helmet outside. And that's true of most of the folks that I know. By which I mean, I do not know a single cyclist who would ride without a helmet outside. But it's pretty mixed in terms of who does and doesn't wear a helmet on their avatar.


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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, but can't agree with your opinion. Sets a bad precedent IMO.
Also your article does not say there is no link, and other sources say otherwise, so a bad choice of example.
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Precedence for what exactly?

Did you actually read what Jordan said or do you prefer simply regurgitating the same thought independent of helpful commentary that happens to not agree with your own?

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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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ggeiger wrote:
Sorry, but can't agree with your opinion. Sets a bad precedent IMO.

Seriously??? It's a damn video game, FFS.

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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Chill dude. My opinion, so you could care less. Fine with me. Not my thing anyway but was surprised given the times. Feel the wind through your hair...... :-)
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Re: Slowtwitch Indoors - Group Workout Series on Zwift: Starts Tue, Jan. 16th @ 4PM PST [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Rappstar wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with the "not promoting helmet use." Zwift is not real. You can't crash. You do not need a helmet. The idea that somehow by not wearing a helmet in the virtual world that we are somehow encouraging a lack of helmet use just doesn't seem to me to have any actual evidence supporting it.

Reminds me a lot of the discussion about violent video games and real world violence, something where the evidence just isn't very strong in terms of showing correlation or causation: https://www.health.harvard.edu/...mes-and-young-people

Certainly, in my own case, I never wear a helmet in Zwift. But I would never even consider not wearing a helmet outside. And that's true of most of the folks that I know. By which I mean, I do not know a single cyclist who would ride without a helmet outside. But it's pretty mixed in terms of who does and doesn't wear a helmet on their avatar.


Ha! Speak for yourself! I’ve fallen off the trainer before! I still don’t wear a helmet in Zwift though... it messes up my sweet hair.
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