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Shit swimmers do........ Wow!
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Pretty incredible training stuff.....

At the AM practice, nearly everyone was using pullies, with different sets specificed to their training needs. Watch the video!
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Wow... just... wow...

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Coley Stickels is their new sprint coach. Highly regarded.
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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That's pretty cool. I wonder what the reduction ratio is on the pulleys, or if it's 1:1.

Any IU peeps know?

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think that most people realize how long college swim season actually is. We got in the water within the first week on campus, basically mid-August. Meets started sometime in late Sept- early Oct and continued through March. That's roughly 2-4 hours per day (depending on the schedule, if you had 1 or 2 practices that day) times 6 days per week for 6+ months. Coaches have to find something to break the monotony and keep practices from going stale. We experimented a lot with a plethora of ideas. Tethered swimming. Parachute swimming. Tie a bucket to your waist swimming. Have someone grab your ankles swimming. No actual swimming, only vertical kick sets in the deep end swimming. It goes on.






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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Tying your ankles to a team mate's and swim in opposite directions until somebody reaches a wall. Nothing like swimming backwards!

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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ggeiger wrote:
Pretty incredible training stuff.....

At the AM practice, nearly everyone was using pullies, with different sets specificed to their training needs. Watch the video!

You need a comma in the title, I read it a different way and thought you were speaking directly to me ;)


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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
ggeiger wrote:
Pretty incredible training stuff.....

At the AM practice, nearly everyone was using pullies, with different sets specificed to their training needs. Watch the video!


You need a comma in the title, I read it a different way and thought you were speaking directly to me ;)


Title should be "the shit swimmers do". You read it as "shitty swimmers do....."

;-)

ETA - hope that didn't come across the wrong way. I jest.

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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"Tethered swimming. Parachute swimming. Tie a bucket to your waist swimming. Have someone grab your ankles swimming. No actual swimming, only vertical kick sets in the deep end swimming. It goes on"

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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This seems to be all the rage these days. Here is a commercial version


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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [STP] [ In reply to ]
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Coley must be Ted Stickels kid? The Indiana connection is pretty strong.
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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I've always wanted to try those.

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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(Quote) "I don't think that most people realize how long college swim season actually is. We got in the water within the first week on campus, basically mid-August. Meets started sometime in late Sept- early Oct and continued through March. That's roughly 2-4 hours per day (depending on the schedule, if you had 1 or 2 practices that day) times 6 days per week for 6+ months." (Quote)

Actually, you're neglecting the fact that most D1 swimmers swim year-round, with maybe 2 weeks total off per year, e.g. they're swimming with a USAS club team during the "off-season" from college swimming. Only non-serious college swimmers swim 6-7 months/year. Regardless though, your point is well taken that swimmers need to do something outside traditional swim workouts just to keep their workouts quasi-fresh.


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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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75' pool. Wouldn't a 1:1 ratio mean they'd have to pull the stack 75' (- the distance from bench to pool) up?
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [140triguy] [ In reply to ]
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Yup, so unless the ceiling is 75' high there must be some kind of a reduction ratio going on?

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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yup, I used to swim against this machine that would actively pull against you while you went forward. My favorite was when I would swim with it and how good it felt to go faster than I was!
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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When I got on a swim team that tied us to the side with surgical tubing, my performances improved dramatically. We learned how many times each of us could wrap the tubing around the dive blocks to shorten them, making them harder. And then the goal was to try to swim to the other side. If you got it right, you were holding a maximum sprint for quite a while trying to just move one inch and grab the far wall.

For people that want to play with resistance but don't want to deal with all that pulley stuff, just order a drag chute off of Finis. They are around 20 to 30 bucks and work great. And they nearly double the effective length of your pool since you spend a lot more time swimming between turns.

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Maybe I missed it, did they show the 1 hr continuous swim group? Certainly had to be a large number of swimmers in that group.
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Probably not too many. The only real distance event is the 1650; I suspect the 500 freestylers swim as a mid distance group with the 200 swimmers. Much more similarity between the 200 and 500 than there is between the 500 and 1650.
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [ZenTriBrett] [ In reply to ]
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ZenTriBrett wrote:
For people that want to play with resistance but don't want to deal with all that pulley stuff, just order a drag chute off of Finis. They are around 20 to 30 bucks and work great. And they nearly double the effective length of your pool since you spend a lot more time swimming between turns.

And I'll add, don't act all ballsey & get the big chutes, using them is like swimming in quick sand even for proficient swimmers; the small chutes will provide more than enough resistance.
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [turningscrews] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I missed it, did they show the 1 hr continuous swim group? Certainly had to be a large number of swimmers in that group.

You're just messing with people now.


We didn't use pulleys, but we did use surgical tubing. So much relief to touch that wall and zoom back.
Good for overspeed training. We were low budget.
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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [Rumpled] [ In reply to ]
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Rumpled wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Maybe I missed it, did they show the 1 hr continuous swim group? Certainly had to be a large number of swimmers in that group.

You're just messing with people now.


We didn't use pulleys, but we did use surgical tubing. So much relief to touch that wall and zoom back.
Good for overspeed training. We were low budget.

They are messing with themselves.

We used surgical tubing too. Colanders. Pulling a teamate. But mostly we swam lots & we swam lots fast. I do remember some bigger schools having pulleys in the mid 90's.
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turningscrews wrote:
Rumpled wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
Maybe I missed it, did they show the 1 hr continuous swim group? Certainly had to be a large number of swimmers in that group.


You're just messing with people now.


We didn't use pulleys, but we did use surgical tubing. So much relief to touch that wall and zoom back.
Good for overspeed training. We were low budget.


They are messing with themselves.

We used surgical tubing too. Colanders. Pulling a teammate. But mostly we swam lots & we swam lots fast. I do remember some bigger schools having pulleys in the mid 90's.

Reminds me of Eddie Merckx's response to a question on how he became the best cyclist in the world: "Ride lots!!!"


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Reminds me of Eddie Merckx's response to a question on how he became the best cyclist in the world: "Ride lots!!!"

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Re: Shit swimmers do........ Wow! [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
That's pretty cool. I wonder what the reduction ratio is on the pulleys, or if it's 1:1.

Any IU peeps know?
Looks like 8:1. Just count the number of ropes on the blocks.
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