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Having to have a USAT membership to race! Pointless.That's not pointless at all.
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Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Bandade]
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That's not pointless at all.
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Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [stephenj]
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stephenj wrote:
Slowman wrote:
Hydrosloth wrote:
A thread for the folks who have been around... a bit. What have been some of the things that ... turned out to be a waste of time or money, ineffective, or just plain silly.reading the opinions of 11hr ironman racers on the silly, ridiculous, nonsensical habits of 8hr ironman racers?
i love you all! i love us all! just, one thing i've noted in 18 years of running an internet site is how devastatingly smart we all are! and how devastatingly insipid the behavior all those are who are 30 percent faster than we are!
So..........are you saying that CNC cranksets were a good idea then?
Stephen J
are you asking me whether i think every manufacturing idea in history was a good one?
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [davejustdave]
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davejustdave wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
Well, you've got a point there but if news publicity is the standard then Mike Rossi has got to be in the running as well with several articles in the Philly press. But I give you Kip Litton whose duplicity was unparalleled and earned him this feature article in the New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/...2/08/06/marathon-man
Julie Miller may be the biggest fraud in triathlon, but if we cast our net a little wider to endurance sports in general, I think Kip Litton is the King of Cheaters!
Litton. 'nuff said
I agree
To create a fictitious race, and then to create an entire online presence for that race, including a results sheet, populated with fictitious participants, is a level stratospheres above and beyond the kind of nonsense Mike Rossi was up to after his antics at VIA and the Turkey Trot
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Slowman]
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Anyone mention Ben Hobbs / Therealstarky yet? For biggest fad, obviously.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [synthetic]
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synthetic wrote:
Geek_fit wrote:
RandMart wrote:
tallswimmer wrote:
How are we this deep in a thread about frauds and nobody's mentioned the IronCowboy yet?FWIW, I had Julie Miller at Post #123
Serious question. What is fraudulent about IronCowboy?
He uses an elliptical for the run part of an Ironman.
To add to this thread, compression socks. How many races did Andy Potts lose by seconds when he could have skipped putting on those silly socks?
HAHA. I did not know that.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [NordicSkier]
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NordicSkier wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
RandMart wrote:
tallswimmer wrote:
How are we this deep in a thread about frauds and nobody's mentioned the IronCowboy yet?FWIW, I had Julie Miller at Post #123
Don't forget Lance Armstrong.
Huge fad but not a fraud since everyone else was doping.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Arch Stanton]
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Biggest fraud? I'm gonna say "Fill in the blank" "elite" triathlon team...where you pay retail to wear our stuff and promote our brand...provided of course you post on Facebook 19 times each quarter
Most useless product? Beet juice...or perhaps Endurox R4
Most ridiculous service offering? Any coaching service with more than 1 price and attention level...silver, gold, platinum, yada...."$1000 per month with 2 phone calls each day with Coach Justin" (who completed 2 IM races in 12 hours each)
Most stupid mistake almost everyone including me makes and still makes: using sleeved wetsuits in any race over 70 degree water temp
Coach at KonaCoach Multisport
Most useless product? Beet juice...or perhaps Endurox R4
Most ridiculous service offering? Any coaching service with more than 1 price and attention level...silver, gold, platinum, yada...."$1000 per month with 2 phone calls each day with Coach Justin" (who completed 2 IM races in 12 hours each)
Most stupid mistake almost everyone including me makes and still makes: using sleeved wetsuits in any race over 70 degree water temp
Coach at KonaCoach Multisport
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Arch Stanton]
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Arch Stanton wrote:
NordicSkier wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
RandMart wrote:
tallswimmer wrote:
How are we this deep in a thread about frauds and nobody's mentioned the IronCowboy yet?FWIW, I had Julie Miller at Post #123
Don't forget Lance Armstrong.
Huge fad but not a fraud since everyone else was doping.
You must believe in miracles.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Terra-Man]
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Terra-Man wrote:
Biggest fraud? I'm gonna say "Fill in the blank" "elite" triathlon team...where you pay retail to wear our stuff and promote our brand...provided of course you post on Facebook 19 times each quarter Most useless product? Beet juice...or perhaps Endurox R4
Most ridiculous service offering? Any coaching service with more than 1 price and attention level...silver, gold, platinum, yada...."$1000 per month with 2 phone calls each day with Coach Justin" (who completed 2 IM races in 12 hours each)
Most stupid mistake almost everyone including me makes and still makes: using sleeved wetsuits in any race over 70 degree water temp
Yeah, I fell for that many times, but after burning up in my full in a one barely wetsuit legal IM, I set 70 as my new benchmark. At Penticton last month, I used a sleeveless when the vast majority were wearing fulls...water was about 71 and I felt so much better. A full is not faster when you are getting dehydrated in warm water.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Hydrosloth]
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Did we do Vibram Five Fingers Yet? Or more specifically racing in Vibram Five Fingers?
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Hydrosloth]
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Slowtwitch, I'm kidding btw.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [mochidomo]
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mochidomo wrote:
Slowtwitch, I'm kidding btw.everything else has been listed, so why not slowtwitch!
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [HuffNPuff]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
Terra-Man wrote:
Biggest fraud? I'm gonna say "Fill in the blank" "elite" triathlon team...where you pay retail to wear our stuff and promote our brand...provided of course you post on Facebook 19 times each quarter Most useless product? Beet juice...or perhaps Endurox R4
Most ridiculous service offering? Any coaching service with more than 1 price and attention level...silver, gold, platinum, yada...."$1000 per month with 2 phone calls each day with Coach Justin" (who completed 2 IM races in 12 hours each)
Most stupid mistake almost everyone including me makes and still makes: using sleeved wetsuits in any race over 70 degree water temp
Yeah, I fell for that many times, but after burning up in my full in a one barely wetsuit legal IM, I set 70 as my new benchmark. At Penticton last month, I used a sleeveless when the vast majority were wearing fulls...water was about 71 and I felt so much better. A full is not faster when you are getting dehydrated in warm water.
I raced the Cross Tri at Penticton when ITU said the water temperature was 22.2C non-wetsuit swim. I SURVIVED without my wetsuit! So, I'm going to Chattanooga now with a peace of mind.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Hydrosloth]
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Carbon
and hey dont hate on Trucker hats ---- you know why trucker hats came back into fashion? Because for a while there, every hat in the 2000s was so low profile it was like a yamaka with a brim on it.
Want: 58cm Cervelo Soloist. PM me if you have one to sell
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and hey dont hate on Trucker hats ---- you know why trucker hats came back into fashion? Because for a while there, every hat in the 2000s was so low profile it was like a yamaka with a brim on it.
Want: 58cm Cervelo Soloist. PM me if you have one to sell
Vintage Cervelo: A Resource
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Shambolic]
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Hello Shambolic and All,
That pic is so cool it make me want to go out an buy one ..
(A small piece of sponge rubber in the gap between the top tube and stem would be nice ..... )
Well done!
You could start a fad!
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=xuaza&s=9
Cheers, Neal
+1 mph Faster
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [nealhe]
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https://www.dimondbikes.com/product/aero-box/
For $140, Dimond will sell you one
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For $140, Dimond will sell you one
Make Inside Out Sports your next online tri shop! http://www.insideoutsports.com/
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [BryanD]
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Hello BryanD and All,
Ouch!
But indicates the visual and aero gap has been noticed .... he said .... attempting to be optimistic .....
Filling that gap is a trend not a fad in my view .... and I will quit here before I put my foot in my mouth.
Cheers, Neal
+1 mph Faster
Ouch!
But indicates the visual and aero gap has been noticed .... he said .... attempting to be optimistic .....
Filling that gap is a trend not a fad in my view .... and I will quit here before I put my foot in my mouth.
Cheers, Neal
+1 mph Faster
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Slowman]
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Slowman wrote:
stephenj wrote:
Slowman wrote:
Hydrosloth wrote:
A thread for the folks who have been around... a bit. What have been some of the things that ... turned out to be a waste of time or money, ineffective, or just plain silly.reading the opinions of 11hr ironman racers on the silly, ridiculous, nonsensical habits of 8hr ironman racers?
i love you all! i love us all! just, one thing i've noted in 18 years of running an internet site is how devastatingly smart we all are! and how devastatingly insipid the behavior all those are who are 30 percent faster than we are!
So..........are you saying that CNC cranksets were a good idea then?
Stephen J
are you asking me whether i think every manufacturing idea in history was a good one?
No; more of a statement about the boutique billet Al CNC cranks that were made back in the early - mid 90's that often broke. Even a hack such as myself figured that out pretty fast.
Stephen J
I believe my local reality has been violated.
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Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [nealhe]
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Lol I posted because it seems I'm living with all the fads and now I could be responsible for starting one. Oh the irony. How about looking as cool AF when racking your bike as a fad?
My previous Dimond features under #10 complete with stem/frame spacer.
https://www.trizone.com.au/20161109/10-reasons-why-you-should-buy-a-dimond-bike/
My previous Dimond features under #10 complete with stem/frame spacer.
https://www.trizone.com.au/20161109/10-reasons-why-you-should-buy-a-dimond-bike/
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [BryanD]
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BryanD wrote:
https://www.dimondbikes.com/product/aero-box/ For $140, Dimond will sell you one
They fit the Brilliant not the Marquise. I had one on my old Brilliant.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [Shambolic]
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Shambolic wrote:
Lol I posted because it seems I'm living with all the fads and now I could be responsible for starting one. Oh the irony. How about looking as cool AF when racking your bike as a fad? My previous Dimond features under #10 complete with stem/frame spacer.
https://www.trizone.com.au/20161109/10-reasons-why-you-should-buy-a-dimond-bike/
Did you just describe yourself "as cool AF?"
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [fat]
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Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [davetallo]
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davetallo wrote:
Shambolic wrote:
Lol I posted because it seems I'm living with all the fads and now I could be responsible for starting one. Oh the irony. How about looking as cool AF when racking your bike as a fad? My previous Dimond features under #10 complete with stem/frame spacer.
https://www.trizone.com.au/20161109/10-reasons-why-you-should-buy-a-dimond-bike/
Did you just describe yourself "as cool AF?"
I quoted myself as looking as cool AF.
Re: Triathlon's biggest fads and frauds [stephenj]
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stephenj wrote:
Slowman wrote:
stephenj wrote:
Slowman wrote:
Hydrosloth wrote:
A thread for the folks who have been around... a bit. What have been some of the things that ... turned out to be a waste of time or money, ineffective, or just plain silly.reading the opinions of 11hr ironman racers on the silly, ridiculous, nonsensical habits of 8hr ironman racers?
i love you all! i love us all! just, one thing i've noted in 18 years of running an internet site is how devastatingly smart we all are! and how devastatingly insipid the behavior all those are who are 30 percent faster than we are!
So..........are you saying that CNC cranksets were a good idea then?
Stephen J
are you asking me whether i think every manufacturing idea in history was a good one?
No; more of a statement about the boutique billet Al CNC cranks that were made back in the early - mid 90's that often broke. Even a hack such as myself figured that out pretty fast.
Stephen J
i consider the machined crank era the bike industry's version of the leisure suit era. i was a bike maker right in the center of all of that. there was a way to do it: smack the billet it with a forging press first, and then machine it. unfortunately a lot of crank makers (and pedal spindle makers, etc.) neglected that first part of the process.
not the industry's finest hour.
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
I remember a training partner receiving titanium bidon cage screws as gift when buying some other bike equipment. We laughed about it but a week later when out riding, I asked her "You put them on your bike, didn't you?" She replied with a sheepish yes.
Some of the revolutionary things promoted in the tri mags of the mid '80s were hilarious, even at the time. The one I wish I had bought were tinted swim goggles that had vents on the side. You would open the vents after the swim to allow airflow on the bike and run, where they doubled as sun glasses. Apparently saved masses of time in transition.
Not sure why they didn't catch on.
Some of the revolutionary things promoted in the tri mags of the mid '80s were hilarious, even at the time. The one I wish I had bought were tinted swim goggles that had vents on the side. You would open the vents after the swim to allow airflow on the bike and run, where they doubled as sun glasses. Apparently saved masses of time in transition.
Not sure why they didn't catch on.