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Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52)
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B/c it has yet to be mentioned and deserves being pointed out


55-59 and runs 2:52

I know boston isn't eligible for WR's but GEEZ what is the WR for the ladies in that age group? Meb kicked some serious ass and so did Joan!!

Mad props all around.

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
B/c it has yet to be mentioned and deserves being pointed out


55-59 and runs 2:52

I know boston isn't eligible for WR's but GEEZ what is the WR for the ladies in that age group? Meb kicked some serious ass and so did Joan!!

Mad props all around.


Has Joan EVER ran a marathon slower than 3 hours?
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/...etics#Marathon_Women, the record is 2:52:14 by Rae Baymiller.

Samuelson ran 2:52:10. If she sticks with this marathon thing, she just might make something of herself.
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [markg] [ In reply to ]
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probably not!!!

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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Found the answer...ONCE!! From Wikipedia:

"On October 10, 2010, she ran 2:47:50 for 43rd place at the Chicago Marathon...Later that month she ran in the Athens Classic Marathon for fun and finished in 3:02, the slowest time of her career,"

Definitely another one in the BAMF category...
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [markg] [ In reply to ]
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I live in Cape Elizabeth, ME where she is from, very nice lady.
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [blueraider_mike] [ In reply to ]
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A gentleman I know had an old picture of his daugther and Joan when Joan ran the Litchfield Road Race abouyt 15 years ago. Recently, he sent a copy of the photo to Joan to ask for a signature. Joan sent back the photo signed with a really nice letter. She is a legendary athlete...and by all accounts a better person.
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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craigj532 wrote:
According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/...etics#Marathon_Women, the record is 2:52:14 by Rae Baymiller.

Samuelson ran 2:52:10. If she sticks with this marathon thing, she just might make something of herself.

So she set the record? Amazing!
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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craigj532 wrote:
According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/...etics#Marathon_Women, the record is 2:52:14 by Rae Baymiller.

Samuelson ran 2:52:10. If she sticks with this marathon thing, she just might make something of herself.
Haha.

She's awesome.

I was in Los Angeles in 1984 and got to saw her win the Olympic marathon (first-ever for women, IIRC).


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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
B/c it has yet to be mentioned and deserves being pointed out


55-59 and runs 2:52

I know boston isn't eligible for WR's but GEEZ what is the WR for the ladies in that age group? Meb kicked some serious ass and so did Joan!!

Mad props all around.

Thanks Marky for pointing this out. This is so awesome...almost as awesome as winning the olympic 1984 marathon only weeks after knee scope surgery! I'd just love to run when I am 58 forget about run fast!
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [markg] [ In reply to ]
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markg wrote:
Found the answer...ONCE!! From Wikipedia:

"On October 10, 2010, she ran 2:47:50 for 43rd place at the Chicago Marathon...Later that month she ran in the Athens Classic Marathon for fun and finished in 3:02, the slowest time of her career,"

Definitely another one in the BAMF category...

Figures that it would be Athens. That course is uphill from mile 6 though 20+ and your legs are fried for the last downhill 6 miles into Athens. She probably could have gone sub 3 at almost any other race with that effort (except Pikes Peak & Great Wall).
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
55-59 and runs 2:52

Someone just informed me that "Marathonguide calls that an age-graded 2:14:32. At Boston. Yeah."

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [randymar] [ In reply to ]
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randymar wrote:
MarkyV wrote:
55-59 and runs 2:52


Someone just informed me that "Marathonguide calls that an age-graded 2:14:32. At Boston. Yeah."

I love the age graded calculations, but the always over estimate the impact of aging...no way if we beamed Joan back to 1984 and made her do her training that she just did (based on percent Vdot, not actual pace today) that she'd go faster than she ever did....I'd assume that her training load was much higher at her peak (relative to Vdot then) then it is now.
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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She was the celebrity guest at a local HM a couple weeks ago. I got to run directly beside her for about two miles until she dropped me. Spoke to her briefly after the race and she was very nice. She ran a 1:28 that day. Just a nice practice I suppose!

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [BionicMan] [ In reply to ]
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BionicMan wrote:
She was the celebrity guest at a local HM a couple weeks ago. I got to run directly beside her for about two miles until she dropped me. Spoke to her briefly after the race and she was very nice. She ran a 1:28 that day. Just a nice practice I suppose!

This made me laugh - She's such a BA, she can outrun the Bionic Man. :-D

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [TriMyBest] [ In reply to ]
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TriMyBest wrote:
BionicMan wrote:
She was the celebrity guest at a local HM a couple weeks ago. I got to run directly beside her for about two miles until she dropped me. Spoke to her briefly after the race and she was very nice. She ran a 1:28 that day. Just a nice practice I suppose!


This made me laugh - She's such a BA, she can outrun the Bionic Man. :-D

Ha! :)

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [blueraider_mike] [ In reply to ]
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As do I, she is very nice. I had a funny first way of meeting her:

When I first moved up to Cape Elizabeth I did a 10k in Freeport, ME. I was through the first two miles in 11:45 and this 50-something woman starts effortlessly gliding by. I think to myself:

1. Old enough to be my mother...
2. Doing 5:45 pace and not dying...
3. Really could only be one person, and that person has an olympic medal.
4. I'm gonna let it go :)

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [Zev] [ In reply to ]
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Zev wrote:
As do I, she is very nice. I had a funny first way of meeting her:

When I first moved up to Cape Elizabeth I did a 10k in Freeport, ME. I was through the first two miles in 11:45 and this 50-something woman starts effortlessly gliding by. I think to myself:

1. Old enough to be my mother...
2. Doing 5:45 pace and not dying...
3. Really could only be one person, and that person has an olympic medal.
4. I'm gonna let it go :)

The coolest thing about this entire thread is that even after all those years of cut throat competitive running, she still loves to run. She's not in the "been there, done that, nothing to prove" camp...she's in the "I am an athlete for life camp". Which camp do we want to be in?

Sure the times slow down (she's 2:52 now rather than 2:22) but she's still loving it and out there and pushing her body for what she can get out of it. In our sport, we have Mark Allen or Peter Reid in the former camp and we have guys like Molina and Glah in the latter camp. I kind of like what Molina and Glah are doing, while totally respecting that when you have put in so much to be a champion that you may no longer have that fire.
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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
The coolest thing about this entire thread is that even after all those years of cut throat competitive running, she still loves to run. She's not in the "been there, done that, nothing to prove" camp...she's in the "I am an athlete for life camp". Which camp do we want to be in?

Sure the times slow down (she's 2:52 now rather than 2:22) but she's still loving it and out there and pushing her body for what she can get out of it. In our sport, we have Mark Allen or Peter Reid in the former camp and we have guys like Molina and Glah in the latter camp. I kind of like what Molina and Glah are doing, while totally respecting that when you have put in so much to be a champion that you may no longer have that fire.

Speaking of "Athlete for Life"

This girl I've known since elementary school finished in 3:25



Not bad for someone who won Ironman Hawaii almost 20 years ago

Believe it or not, with all those IMs under her belt, this was her first Boston Marathon

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Zev wrote:
As do I, she is very nice. I had a funny first way of meeting her:

When I first moved up to Cape Elizabeth I did a 10k in Freeport, ME. I was through the first two miles in 11:45 and this 50-something woman starts effortlessly gliding by. I think to myself:

1. Old enough to be my mother...
2. Doing 5:45 pace and not dying...
3. Really could only be one person, and that person has an olympic medal.
4. I'm gonna let it go :)


The coolest thing about this entire thread is that even after all those years of cut throat competitive running, she still loves to run. She's not in the "been there, done that, nothing to prove" camp...she's in the "I am an athlete for life camp". Which camp do we want to be in?

Sure the times slow down (she's 2:52 now rather than 2:22) but she's still loving it and out there and pushing her body for what she can get out of it. In our sport, we have Mark Allen or Peter Reid in the former camp and we have guys like Molina and Glah in the latter camp. I kind of like what Molina and Glah are doing, while totally respecting that when you have put in so much to be a champion that you may no longer have that fire.

i think you've just outed yourself as an old fart. :) these were my exact same thoughts.

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [blueraider_mike] [ In reply to ]
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blueraider_mike wrote:
I live in Cape Elizabeth, ME where she is from, very nice lady.

I grew up in Cape and live in South Portland now... small slow twitch world.



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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [Zev] [ In reply to ]
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Zev wrote:
As do I, she is very nice. I had a funny first way of meeting her:

When I first moved up to Cape Elizabeth I did a 10k in Freeport, ME. I was through the first two miles in 11:45 and this 50-something woman starts effortlessly gliding by. I think to myself:

1. Old enough to be my mother...
2. Doing 5:45 pace and not dying...
3. Really could only be one person, and that person has an olympic medal.
4. I'm gonna let it go :)

Be honest Zev lots of Grandmas pass you, especially when you're out on that kawasaki green looking excuse for a TT bike....



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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [warwicke36] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds like someone's lost their sit-on-my-wheel privileges...

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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [Zev] [ In reply to ]
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Damnit... wait. You don't know who this is....that's what I'm going with



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Re: Joan Benoit Samuelson at Boston (58y 2:52) [warwicke36] [ In reply to ]
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Boy, to run like that at 58 is amazing. Good for her!
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