A lot of people will now know taking the IV is cheating/banned, until someone actually gets sanctioned for it. If one person openly violates things, others might view the practice to be mainstream and next thing you know, lots of folks with access to medical facilities are doing the IV thing.

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Calling out cheaters.

We go on these huge ST hunts for drafting, but these guys post a picture of them taking IV's the morning of the race, and people question why we are upset about it.

Get their results stricken from the record.

IVs
Drafting

All in one race, by two people that admitted to cheating.

Wouldn't that make the IV section of the med tent at an IM a major source of doping violations? Maybe the people there are just trying to dilute their PEDs in case they get a urine test.

Read the USADA link I posted.

Maurice

Read the USADA link I posted.

Maurice

Funny how people get pilloried for being naive enough to assume a doctor's prescription for testosterone makes using it while racing okay but someone who utilizes illegal IVs as a regular recovery method is given a free pass.

Just replying to you in general to follow through on my update.

Had a good telephone conversation with USADA. I just forwarded on the relevant information via email to USADA regarding prerace IV, along with results page to establish participation/completion of the HITS Kingston Half. USADA is planning to look into this since they have the photos, results, etc. (goes back to failing the stupid test).

I also spoke with Charlie Crawford at USAT - he deferred the issue to USADA, since it is a potential violation of Article 8 of the USAT rules (doping), for which enforcement responsibility lies with USADA.

I have not heard back from HITS.

That's all for now.

All I am saying is dropping a dime on some guys that aren't "racing" seems kind of Barney Fife(ish) to me.

So what you're saying is, breaking the rules is okay.

Your kidding right? Grab your bullet Barney...

At what point in your mind is the right time to say something?

When do you let breaking the rules go, vs telling someone about it.

I'm just curious as to where your line is.

Just go to Netflix and watch some Andy Griffith Show. I'm more Andy...that's my line.

At what point in your mind is the right time to say something?

When do you let breaking the rules go, vs telling someone about it.

I'm just curious as to where your line is.

At what point in your mind is the right time to say something?

When do you let breaking the rules go, vs telling someone about it.

I'm just curious as to where your line is.

Here is my take...I want them called out because I find the recreational use of IV's completely egregious. There is a national SHORTAGE OF IV'S where at hospitals they are sharing bags between patients or to a far lesser important venue LEGITIMATE IM races where people have dedicated a crap load of time to and come in damn near dying who won't be given them possibly. Pro's included. don't believe me? go ask the doctors at Galveston about the $hit fit Andy Potts threw because the doctors wouldn't give him an IV after the race. literally, threw a fit. So why on God's green earth is it acceptable for these a$$ hats to be out there doing this? seriously. there is a national shortage. Better yet, find the doctor or nurse who procured these and suspend their license. This is when I find the whole "oh wow he is doing this for a great cause" crap completely ridiculous. It is completely self serving.

Here is my take...I want them called out because I find the recreational use of IV's completely egregious. There is a national SHORTAGE OF IV'S where at hospitals they are sharing bags between patients or to a far lesser important venue LEGITIMATE IM races where people have dedicated a crap load of time to and come in damn near dying who won't be given them possibly. Pro's included. don't believe me? go ask the doctors at Galveston about the $hit fit Andy Potts threw because the doctors wouldn't give him an IV after the race. literally, threw a fit. So why on God's green earth is it acceptable for these a$$ hats to be out there doing this? seriously. there is a national shortage. Better yet, find the doctor or nurse who procured these and suspend their license. This is when I find the whole "oh wow he is doing this for a great cause" crap completely ridiculous. It is completely self serving.

Yes, they should clearly listen to your rants. How do you even know they're using saline solution?

If you want to worry about it to that degree, why not try to call out the more egregious violations of IV use, i.e. those who lie about their weight at registration or add extra weight in case they're actually weighed at registration (heavier clothes, boots, stuff in pockets, etc.), making it easier for them to appear as if they've lost more weight and get an IV at the end. That's definitely a more egregious violation than IC, who's not using race resources to obtain his IV and has used them as a safety measure to have appropriate hydration through an insane endurance feat. Go to any tri club and it will be no problem to find people who've done the former as a way to more quickly recover after an IM.


Yeah, who doesn't want an IV after a race. I know I would. As for the wearing extra clothes...I have never had to "weigh in" for an ironman so I am not familiar with this. I am sure there are tons of people who lie about their current "state" of hydration to receive one. Won't disagree with you on that. But the fact they are using them so readily is pretty disturbing when there are patients at hospitals who are getting half bags and giving another half to another patient because of shortages. That makes me scratch my head...like are you for real? whether they buy them or not, the person who has sold them to them or given them to him have to be aware of the shortage. The criteria they are using for people getting IV's is changing. Of course I am like WTF how can there be a shortage of saline solution. its water and salt!! haha.

If you want to worry about it to that degree, why not try to call out the more egregious violations of IV use, i.e. those who lie about their weight at registration or add extra weight in case they're actually weighed at registration (heavier clothes, boots, stuff in pockets, etc.), making it easier for them to appear as if they've lost more weight and get an IV at the end. That's definitely a more egregious violation than IC, who's not using race resources to obtain his IV and has used them as a safety measure to have appropriate hydration through an insane endurance feat. Go to any tri club and it will be no problem to find people who've done the former as a way to more quickly recover after an IM.

It is completely self serving.

uhhh, yeah doc. as is the entire sport of triathlon. so what's your point?

you also use the word legitimate. like some guy who's going to walk around lake placid next weekend for 16.5 hours is somehow more legitimate because he paid $750 to do it.

there's also a food shortage in this country, but i dont hear you going crazy about the amount of nutrition bars or gatorade that's given out at these legitimate events.

climb down from your pedestal

uhhh, yeah doc. as is the entire sport of triathlon. so what's your point?

you also use the word legitimate. like some guy who's going to walk around lake placid next weekend for 16.5 hours is somehow more legitimate because he paid $750 to do it.

there's also a food shortage in this country, but i dont hear you going crazy about the amount of nutrition bars or gatorade that's given out at these legitimate events.

climb down from your pedestal

Here is my take...I want them called out because I find the recreational use of IV's completely egregious. There is a national SHORTAGE OF IV'S where at hospitals they are sharing bags between patients or to a far lesser important venue LEGITIMATE IM races where people have dedicated a crap load of time to and come in damn near dying who won't be given them possibly. Pro's included. don't believe me? go ask the doctors at Galveston about the $hit fit Andy Potts threw because the doctors wouldn't give him an IV after the race. literally, threw a fit. So why on God's green earth is it acceptable for these a$$ hats to be out there doing this? seriously. there is a national shortage. Better yet, find the doctor or nurse who procured these and suspend their license. This is when I find the whole "oh wow he is doing this for a great cause" crap completely ridiculous. It is completely self serving.