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Friends who want to borrow your race wheels
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I had a friend hit me up to use my set of race wheels for his race this weekend. I said no because I didn't buy them for other people to use. I hate being selfish, but does anyone else feel like letting someone use your wheels is about like letting someone bang your girlfriend?
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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T3_Beer wrote:
I had a friend hit me up to use my set of race wheels for his race this weekend. I said no because I didn't buy them for other people to use. I hate being selfish, but does anyone else feel like letting someone use your wheels is about like letting someone bang your girlfriend?

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Craftsmen don't lend their tools just because it's their day off.
That "RULE" applies here.

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [othegrch] [ In reply to ]
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how good of a friend he's he? Does he have the money to replace them if he dammage them?

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I have loaned everything i have ever owned, except my wife, and i certainly do not own her. In the rare instance that i have to borrow something, i make sure as with my loaning, that it is understood that if you break it, you bought it. I think with that understanding in mind, loaning things to friends is fine.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [monty] [ In reply to ]
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The only problem with that idea is when you go for a ride on your previously loaned-out wheels and notice a problem sometime after your ride.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I'd let him pending if he broke it he bought it. That and a case of my favorite beer. I would hope my tri friends would do the same for me.

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Only an ass would ask this. If he can replace them if he breaks them then he should buy some.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I lend out pretty much all of my race equipment, being bikes, snow boards, etc. but only to people I know well enough to treat my stuff with respect. Some people are less fortunate than me but that doesn't mean they are less deserving.


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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [othegrch] [ In reply to ]
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othegrch wrote:
Craftsmen don't lend their tools just because it's their day off.
That "RULE" applies here.

I think that is a silly analogy. Craftsmen use their tools to earn a living. Most triathletes use race wheels for weekend hobbies.
If one has to ask the OP's question, it begs the question as to how do you define "friend"?
I'd lend any physical possession I have to a friend. Friends are more precious than race wheels. Even if they are sweet-ass carbon toroidal whatchamacallits.
Of course, this is all merely my opinion and I am sure someone can explain why I am wrong.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [00gauge] [ In reply to ]
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Qoute :"Some people are less fortunate than me but that doesn't mean they are less deserving".....Nice quote 00guage.
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Stuff is made to be used.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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If I am not using them I will let my friends borrow them, sure. Some of you need to get the stick out of your ass.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously?

Some friend.

Yeah, friends can borrow whatever from me - wheels, bike, car, helmet, etc.

Hey, you asked for opinions.

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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If I was asked to borrow my wheels (or anything else of significant value) my response would depend 100% on who was asking.

Just a few considerations:

How close of a friend are they?
Are they generally a responsible person?
How do they treat their own stuff?
Would I consider asking to borrow something of theirs?
Do they have the resources to replace the item if it gets damaged?

BTW - if I don't know them well enough to know the answers to those questions, then the answer would be "sorry, but...."
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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T3_Beer wrote:
I hate being selfish, but [ . .]

Clearly.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Everyone has their own opinion, but I'm with the OP here. No offense to the following brand(s) [if I owned them], but I wouldn't mind lending my race-worthy Flo wheels, but I would mind lending, say, my Firecrest set. I might lend my friend a car, but not my Ferrari (no, I don't own one).

If you don't mind lending your wheels, then go ahead and lend them. If you don't want to, then don't. I wouldn't think you are overly selfish or generous either way.

[But if he lends you his girlfriend... ?]
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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A set of brand new Firecrest 404's to ride Battenkill, well, I might come up with a lame excuse (even though I'd admittedly have no problem using them in that situation myself). But to use in a race or even just to try 'em out in reasonable riding conditions, no problem.

Does your girlfriend know you put her at the same level as your race wheels? I'd spend some time thinking about the relative value of relationships and material possessions.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I was once protective of my stuff. Now, I pay it forward. I don't wait for friends to ask- I offer.

Currently, I gave a cross bike to a plumber working n my rental Ouse who is a friend of a friend. I told him to consider it a long term borrow. I'll ask for It back someday. I have some xtr brakes and a mt. Bike wheel set lent to a friend. He has been winning some local races. Years back, I lent a bike to a marathoner training or a half ironman.

I figure, being self employed- every day is a risk. I make or lose money. What is the difference. If I'm in a position to help a friend, I will.

BTW- I recall that Eskimos share their wives with guests sleeping over!
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [One and Done] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn't hesitate to let someone borrow them and would expect the same from any of my pals.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I would likely lend them. For the right friends I would be inclined to offer them if I knew that they had a big race. However, I would never ask such a favor of a friend. So yeah ... all around pretty much like the girlfriend analogy.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I would never ask to borrow someone's wheels, but many times I have insisted friends use my race wheels if I knew they didn't have any. I've never insisted that a friend who was horny bang my wife, so I don't think it is the same thing.
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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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If you feel the same way about your race wheels as you do about your girlfriend...well...you are hopeless.

Lend the wheels. Someday you may need to borrow something from him. Just tell him if he breaks he buys.

If he starts asking every weekend then talk to him about buying his own. Otherwise, chill and enjoy the fact that your wheels are racing when you aren't.

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I've borrowed race wheels, but never asked. I wouldn't ask either, for fear of a situation like this. I don't lend things to all my friends, but i do have some friends I'd lend anything to (minus the wife.). Even let a dude take a road trip in my brand spanking new STi (at the time it was my prized possession and a huge purchase for me. Only two people could have gotten away with that.)

I'd wager theres one of 3 scenarios here: You're buddy overestimated his worth in your friendship. He's an idiot. You're stingy.

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Re: Friends who want to borrow your race wheels [rroof] [ In reply to ]
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rroof wrote:
Seriously?

Some friend.

Yeah, friends can borrow whatever from me - wheels, bike, car, helmet, etc.

Hey, you asked for opinions.

I agree. I loaned a pair of my ZIPPS to a friend who did his first Im in LP this year. Did I have to? No. But it made me feel good to help a friend and to play a little part of a pretty special day for him.



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