Velocibuddha wrote:
Let's say one typically does tempo runs at: 6:20 pace and mile repeats at 6:10 pace (at 2000ft).
This level of fitness would translate to: 7:00 tempo runs and 6:45 mile repeats (on hilly terrain at 6000ft).
I would assume that the fitness effects would be the same at 6000 vs 2000ft.
But effects on speed and muscle memory would differ.
What should be done to compensate for the low speeds and low power of high elevation training?
It has been 25 years since I was living at 7,200 feet above sea level and had a running coach with a post-graduate degree in high altitude training, but since then I have lived at sea level in two different states over 5,000 asl in two different states. I learned a lot from my coach and I learned from moving back and forth from the mountains and the coast.
Yes, you get the same training effect as 2,000ft asl doing 6:20 min/mi tempo pace as you do the equivalent pace, if and only if you are doing your total workout volume by time and not by distance. So...you have to run at a faster pace for a longer distance (but same time) at 2,000 ft to get the same work at as you would at 6,000ft.
When I have trained at seal level for races over 7,000 feet I have to adjust my training plans to add more volume. If I were to follow a marathon training at 6:20 pace but set my race pace at 7:00 minute pace to maintain the same effort I would only be trained for 23.7 mile mile time. So, I added 20% volume to my long runs each week if I am training for a race at elevation.
My first marathon at altitude I was really concerned about the race. I feared that I was have shortness of breath, my lunges would get the acid burn in them, that I would fatigue early, and that I would fade at the end of the race. None of that happened. I DID use an online altitude adjustment program to adjust my target race pace and I was fine. I felt like I was running at sea level. At the finish line I had to laugh at how concerned I was about the altitude. I just said to my self "What altitude? I didn't feeling any altitude".
Tempo runs are usually paced better by feel than by a clock. If your training plane prescribed 6:20 pace and you are feeling like you are doing a tempo run at 6:45 pace you are probably fine at 6:45 pace. I always see my tempo run pace drop about 40 second/mi from the beginning of the season to the end of the season. The tempo runs usually feel a lot easer at the end of the season even though I may be doing 6:45 pace when I start a training plan and 6:10 pace when I start to peak. 7:00 min/mi seems too slow for a 4,000 adjustment from 6:20 min/mi. My training paces are a little faster than yours by I only see about a 1 second a mile difference for every 1,000 feet of elevation change. That would put me at about 6:24 if I were making a 4,000 foot adjustment. It sounds like your "hilly" course may be the bigger problem. There are grade adjusted paces too, but if you are running by feel you don't need to get overly weighed down in the adjustments. Just go and train. The fitness will come.
Note: Here are results of my last two 5K results. Elevation difference was 5,200 feet. Difference in pace was 4 sec/mi. The HR got higher on the course with more hill and more elevation. The one sec/mile for every 1000 ft of elevations held pretty close. The race at altitude was a better performance. I do my interval training by feel. My training paces were about 7-8 sec/mi slower at altitude. :-)
1) Trained: Sea Level
Raced: Sea Level
Hills: 8 feet
Time: 17:13
Pace: 5:32 min/mi
HR: 165 BPM
2) Trained: 5,200 ft
Raced: 5,200 ft
Hills: 50 feet
Time: 17:21
Pace: 5:35 min/mi
HR: 169 BPM