Not sure about Sitero. But yes, it's slightly tilted up... at least for me. You weight compresses the material and it levels out while your on it. Remember, the whole point is that you ride near the front edge of the seat and I think you end up sitting more on the front of your sit bones. Overall it's been great for me. Only 300+ mile weeks do I start to get some saddle sores...but then again, I usually don't use chamois creme either and have a lot of older cheaper shorts I rotate through. I think 1/2 of my shorts are between 8 and 15 years old.

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Thanks as far as padding I used a Vflow mad which wasn't very firm, a podium which was firm and sitero which is firmer. How does the padding on the JOF feel? I seem to prefer very firm over the long haul.

The JOF 55 has been a real game changer for comfort for me this season. After a few rides in the mountains, I only wished it was a few mm narrower for the sitting-up & climbing position. In aero position you don't notice it. But sitting up yeah...that said, I think I need to look into the Cobb Randee...it seems to be the JOF 55 only narrower up front. If the aero position has the same or similar feel while solving the climbing or seated position width issue, it would be bang on perfect. If not, I'm plenty happy with the JOF to say I wouldn't be riding anything else of all the saddles I've used EVER.

*Note, just before I bought the JOF 55, I had the Fizik TriTone & even after some break in miles, it was like a torture device. The TriTone was THE worst saddle I've ever owned (and yes, I had a ReTul fit by one of the top tri-specialist fitters in the state).

I have the jof

Amazing saddle for tri and road actually

You can sit back or sit twds the front

Very comfy during my half distance race.

I even changed out my road bike saddle on my century ride last week and used the jof. My stuff didn't get sore!

Highly recommend it.

Going to pick up the water bottle cage system. It does seem very overpriced though $60

I found mine to be most comfortable with a slight downward tilt. As with most saddle stuff, it seems to be an individual preference. I have also noticed that little or no padding, such as with tri-shorts is the most comfortable, with really thick padding I'll get a bit of irritation.

As for padding of the saddle itself, I'd say it trends toward firm.

I do like it.

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I've got the JOF on my road bike and love it. I also use the vflow on my TT bike.

Cobb JOF pilot here. I really like mine tilted down a tad and ride in the very front it seems to be more comfy with a thin chamois and a fair amount of lube.

   I just retired my Cobb V-flow max after my last race (which I have like very much for 4yrs) . Recently talked to John Cobb about a saddle replacement for the V-flow and also what he would recommend for me on a road-bike. He recommended the JOF for my tri-bike and the Randee for the road-bike...

are you tiliting down on the top with a level or by the rails? I'm just looking for a starting point and all the pics show the saddle rails level which looks like the top is nose up a bit.

Can anyone post nose to nose photos of these saddles?

I have the bontrager hilo saddle and wonder if one of these would be better.

I ordered the JOF and it will be her this week. I'll do a couple of pics once it comes in

awesome! thanks.

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First impressions; the JOF and sitero about the same width up front, the jof keeps that width a bit longer before going wider. The sitero is more blunt, the JOF more round. Padding is firm on both. The JOF looks like it will hold up better, the sitero is sort of rubbery. Both are pushed way up front on the rails compared to my adamo podium but the JOF sits taller (lowered my post about 1cm and may go more) so once the post was down the seat went back a bit to keep the same distance to the stem. The sitero has what feels like a slight inclined section at the nose even though it looks totally flat this sort of hooks you into the seat. The JOF does this as well it feels like though you can see it on the saddle.

I've only ridden it for a few on the trainer so I don't have much to go on but it felt ok to me. I liked the sitero but it started falling apart pretty quick.

Thanks. Really appreciate it. I think I might look for a lightly used jof.

I have a Cobb Max on two bikes and have worn them both totally out (material ripping on the side of the nose). Probably took me 4 years to do it. I am going to be trying the 55 JOF as a replacement soon. if it goes well, I will buy 2 of them.

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I have the JOF 55. I've tried the Sitero. I found the Sitero to be uncomfortably hard. I find the JOF to be a little too soft at times (so I sink in a bit). For me, the JOF could stand to be just few mm more narrow and slightly more firm. I get some rubbing on the side of my groin area from it. I like the JOF better than the Adamo Prologue that came with the bike. I had the Plus and the Max as well. When I'm fatigued in the JOF, I feel like I want to rest in the aero position. When I am rubbed sore from the Max I feel like I want to end my ride early. Personally I'm still not 100% satisfied and think I will try a Dash and perhaps find a more narrow Adamo. Sometimes I wish I had a Ken Doll-like underside so this whole process would be more simple.

Where was your soreness with the max? I ask because I am also going from max to JOF. For me, max hurts the "soft tissue" almost on the leg and way in the back area. I am hopping that the JOF will be wider and that this area of concern will essentially sit without motion on it. We will see. 90 day returns still, so nothing to lose.

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On the max my saddle sores were on either side of the taint area. I ended up with lots of missing skin there. On the Jof it's more rearward and outward, on the lower buttcheeks and sometimes upper inner thighs.

What was it that made the Tritone "the worst saddle I have ever owned". You comment that the JOF55 is a few mm wider than you would like for seated climbing. When in the climbing postion, how does the JOF 55 compare to the Tritone?

Thanks for the insight

I had the max a ways back, I don't thing the jof is wider but I think the "noses" are, meaning the fingers are thicker. Due to this the cutout section isn't as wide.

I road mine today for an hour and they both feel very similar. I think if someone hates one, the other won't be the answer. But if you like one, one may better than the other. There's some difference to feel but I think its subtle.

Any other user comments...

One of my training partners used the Sitero for a while and he raved about his position and comfort. Then his fitter put him on a JOF and he raves even more about the JOF - he can't stop talking about his glutes and staying aero all day. I really want to try it out some day just so I am more knowledgeable but I still really enjoy the Max after many many years and have no reason to switch.

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