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Argon 18's real world Cd sensor looks to be close to production
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milesthedog
Mar 27, 17 11:39
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https://www.bikerumor.com/...aller-more-portable/

and looks like it could go on any aerobar extension. Seems you could do w/kg / Cd to control for wind, air density, road surface quality, etc. or a comparison between power meter measured force in watts can be compared to force in watts calculated by the sensor's measured coefficient of drag x the sensors measured air density x the cyclist's velocity. I'll be really interested to see how they make this information useful.


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GreenPlease
Mar 27, 17 12:26
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I'd imagine you'll simply input your weight and the resulting output will be a CdA. It's not just Argonne fwiw. Zipp has something in the pipeline and it appears our own SkippyKitten might have something in the works as well :)
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Morelock
Mar 27, 17 12:33
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Marc is an ST member as well fwiw
My Blog - http://leegoocrap.blogspot.com
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Chuckie M
Mar 27, 17 13:40
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they need a decent integrated drinking system like Canyon or Scott for the front end
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trail
Mar 27, 17 18:46
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't iBike been doing this for many years now. Wind speed sensor + "direct force" power meter to give you realtime CdA?


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timbasile
Mar 27, 17 19:16
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Is this where someone asks...

"What's the aero penalty of that sensor?"
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GreenPlease
Mar 27, 17 19:55
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Nope, because everyone in this thread already knows :)
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marcag
Mar 28, 17 2:19
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timbasile wrote:
Is this where someone asks...

"What's the aero penalty of that sensor?"

this was something verified multiple times in CFD, in the velodrome and at the A2 tunnel a few weeks ago.
Data will be provided upon release but what it was so small we could not really see it.
There is also a quick way to remove it for racing if you choose to do so.
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marcag
Mar 28, 17 2:24
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GreenPlease wrote:
I'd imagine you'll simply input your weight and the resulting output will be a CdA. It's not just Argonne fwiw. Zipp has something in the pipeline and it appears our own SkippyKitten might have something in the works as well :)

You are right that several people are working on real time CDA. While it's a very important feature of the system it is just one of many metrics and sensors being produced. As well Argon sees this as much as a platform for other vendors sensors to connect to get all the data in one place.
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SkippyKitten
Mar 28, 17 9:59
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Yes, still very much at it. Thanks for remembering me! Lots going on over here of which the sensor system is a major part.

Interesting times.
Developing aero, fit and other fun stuff at Red is Faster
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