Well getting old just continues to be a disappointment. I thought my AARP card was going to somehow translate into an 'ARP wave' at my next race. A wave of nothing but AARP card holders....shit.

Think you already got that after the 55 -59 AG.

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I treated an athlete for 2 separate injuries that posted a blog (on his own blog). His blog is
http://www.ozonexterra.com/

You will have to put in the words "ArpWave" in his search box.

He had excellent results with it.

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Well getting old just continues to be a disappointment. I thought my AARP card was going to somehow translate into an 'ARP wave' at my next race. A wave of nothing but AARP card holders....shit.

I was thinking, "finally, a meaningful benefit to AARP membership." But no.

I have done one session with it, and I think it has promise. I'll check out the blog

The arpwave website is http://ArpWave.com but I thought you would want a unsolicited opinion from another triathlete.

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Chris Scarborough CSCS
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What do you mean by "the prolo people?"

I do prolotherapy (I think it might work, but am not convinced)
I do not do/have/recommend Wave.


My problem with things like Wave is too much voodoo science talk. If their message was, "eccentric strengthening works for rehabilitation of tendinopathy and Wave makes it easier to do eccentric strengthening," I would look at it more carefully. Instead they talk about how their waveform is "harmonious with the body" and helps to "repair short circuits." That's ridiculous.

Andy

The "harmonious" part is due to the fact that it is a DC current -- the same as you body produces to send neuromuscular signals. Most all estim is AC and causes concentric contraction of muscle. ARPWave causes eccentric contraction (lengthening). I know nothing of prolotherapy (don't use it either) and cant say one way or the other.

But having used AC tons (and thinking it was a band-aid for pain), the ARPWave works. We will often find injuries that have problem spots on the opposite side -- especially in the case of a muscle strain -- the opposite muscle is what is too concentrically contracted.

Bottom line -- the thing works.

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Doing some prolotherapy to get a hamstring tendonosis back in working order. I don't think this along will fix it though.

The ARP seems to have merit, it tagged the hot spots I thought would exist, and several others I didn't.

Certainly painful, but similar to deep tissue

Good to hear from someone who has worked with this. I am going to pursue this along with prolotherapy to fix my tendonosis and other issues. 2+ years of physical therapy and chiro has netted 0 results.

Do you have any feedback on frequency? I can only get to the clinic on weekends, but my boss does own a machine which I may be able to borrow... I am guessing the more you get, the faster you progress. Thoughts?

You can do up to 4 sessions per day, however, you will have to eat protein like crazy to feed the muscle. I recommend 2 or 3 sessions per day to treat the injury. Make sure you know how to find the hot spot -- it is not usually right where you hurt.

Put another post if you want help finding the hot spot and I can talk you through it.

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My issue is getting more than one per week, do you think this would be at all effective?

Did an hour of ARP this weekend, hot spots on gleut med both sides, and same just below the knee cap and high on shin.

Also going to be doing 300 reps/5 min romanian dead lifts (light weight) to strengthen hamstrings.

Trying to work on the frequency of treatment.

Glad you got to use it. Use it as often as you can. Make sure you eat lots of protein to feed the muscle after you are done.
This is the same treatment Dwight Freeny used to help him get back to the Super Bowl from an injury that should sideline him 2 to 3 months.

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One note for the SB watchers out there - DF had a 3rd degree ankle sprain (typical 16 week recovery).

He was out there on down 1 and made a difference. He's been ARPing since the injury to fix

http://arpwaveaustin.com/testimonials/

Chris - I have to say that the DC current cannot "cause" an eccentric contraction. Muscles only contract once activated. The lengthening or shortening of the muscle itself relates to the action the body part is performing at the time of the contraction. Go up on your toes, and your calf muscles are shortening; come back down to a flat foot, and the calf muscles are lengthening. In both cases, however, it is the calf muscle that is contracting to permit/perform the action of going up or down on your toes.

Just food for thought.

-chris ramsey, PT, DPT, OCS

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Though it would be pretty sweet if you could build "push" muscles instead of just "pull"

I will replace "eccentric" with the word "lengthen".

In the gastroc example, the anterior tib muscles and toe extensors would lengthen the gastroc and soleus. If the ARP finds the gastroc to be the problem spot, the body is encouraged to shorten the anterior tib and dorsiflex the ankle, lengthening the gastroc.

You are correct that it does not cause it, but it can be an incentive.

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thanks for making me laugh this morning :)

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Just a note of personal experience with the ArpWave training in our family. My son (a strong Division I basketball prospect) tore his ACL, had surgery, completed PT for 6+ mos, and then tore his MCL and 'stretched' the ACL hamstring graft. An extremely depressing event in our family. Very tough. VERY tough.

We decided to embrace ArpWave instead of the multiple doctor-recommended re-surgeries. After just a few short weeks of training, he was running full out 25 yard sprints. He continued to progress through the next 4-6 months and now plays Division I basketball! Nothing short of amazing. I've decided to purchase/license another unit for him (a POV unit) to take to college for continued training and, we will be using his RX 100 unit for our family's miscellaneous athletic needs (my chronic back pain, my other son's knee's patellar tendinosis (a Division III college basketball player) and, for my daughter, so she can get ready for the rigors of a Division I college lacrosse season.

Jay Schroeder in Arizona does the training and Denis and Colt Thompson in Minneapolis did the initial ArpWave therapies. We actually flew out to Minneapolis to train firsthand with Denis, and Jay just happened to be there also. Their intentions were admirable and sincere. Truly an answer to prayer.

We thank God daily for this 'second chance' that has been given to our son. I would encourage others to seek out this difficult, yet truly amazing, therapy for athletic injuries and/or training.

Thanks for your post on the ARP about your kids. So, I am a head coach (and 42 years old) who loves performance training and sprinting drills, etc., I've used the original ARP before they were split into the POV Sport and the medical ARP. Since you posted that you got your son the POV Sport, can you tell me what it does that's different than the other ARP. I really want to purchase one - especially for loosening. Loosening is my biggest issue right now because I am constantly tight and sore, I am very unflexible. I've noticed remarkable differences when I loosened with the original ARP. Can you tell me what exactly the POV does? Does your son use it to loosen before and after practice/games? Thanks so much.

Great minds think alike. I was thinking the same thing. Only reason I opened the thread. AARP wave! COOLIO!

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i'm using ARPWave now for posterior tibial tendinitis (PTT)

- its excruciatingly painful
- its extremely expensive
- its working

its knocked out all PTT pain after 4 sessions. have 6 sessions left of strength building.

spend my afternoons dreading the eventual session. but, everything ends sometime.

POV is not good for loosening, if anything it is doing more concentric work. The ARP Trainer or RX100 is better for doing the loosening protocols, don't buy a POV, in my opinion they are still working out the kinks in what it is actually doing to the body.

I hear that the patent for the ARP Trainer is up and there are people starting to manufacture them at a much cheaper price than the ARPwave company.

Let me know if your looking to get one.