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If I read this correctly, seems it is a subjective rule, which if so, many not be a good rule.

The was this is written now says I can have a cell phone one me like for tracking, or taking video, as long as I do not touch it or look at it?

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Yeah, that rule is too subjective.

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"In an effort to better define the rule prohibiting bare torsos during the bike and run, and to align with the global standard, uniforms with a front zipper must not be undone below the point of the end of the breastbone (sternum). If not remedied promptly, athletes will be issued a disqualification."

This one doesn't seem minor. DQ for a zipper down?

That's better than the open interpretation from before. I received a penalty at Augusta for having my suit unzipped.


http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._WTC_races_P6090152/


This at least provides a black and white rule (more or less) compared to the vague rule from before which didn't address a zippered tri suit at all.

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Sounds to me like you will be given a verbal warning to zip it up. As usual it is written too subjectively, and refs will handle it differently. Why not write: "Athletes who are repeatedly seen on the course with their zipper below the sternum; and/or who refuse to pull it up when requested by a referee will be issued a disqualification."

"Athletes who are repeatedly seen on the course with their zipper below the sternum; and/or who refuse to pull it up when requested by a referee will be issued a disqualification."

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I *think* because there is now not going to be options for you to repeatedly be on the course with zipper down. It's pretty simple:

You are running with your zipper down....Refs spot that and the following occurs:

Ref- tells you to rectify it now

You have 2 options- promptly zipp it up or be DQ'd. You don't get to think about it, you either do as the ref says when prompted to or you don't continue.

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What is the reasoning for that rule? Provided my number is displayed, why do they care if I want to unzip my top all the way, or even take it off? Also, what about back zip tri suits? Does it matter how far you unzip those?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32C0eKRQVt8

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How promptly is promptly? Is it instantaneously or are you allowed 5-10 seconds to process the command while you are in the fog of the IM marathon? The point is that while the intent is clear, the rule itself is not, and is subjective enough where one ref would DQ and another would not. Note further that there are full zip tri kits that if the zipper is at the point of the sternum, and depending on the stretch across the chest, they will start unzipping themselves.

IMHO this is a stupid rule that didn't need to change. Why not just go to rear zippers like ITU if a visible torso is so horribly offensive? Finally, do you think this rule helps attract customers to triathlon at a time of declining participation? Let them have at it at IM70.3 St Croix, Cozumel, Florida, Miami, Puerto Rico, etc. ... enforce it hard and see if that helps registration numbers.

They are trying to keep rules standardized for all IMs around the world. In the US nobody is going to care about a slightly bare torso, but in the middle east that can be offensive. The rule exists to avoid issues in locations where showing too much skin is considered inappropriate.

It's subjective if you want it to be subjective?

How quickly do you think prompt is? Like if an official tells you to do something, you simply do it. You don't argue, you don't complain, you do it. So do I think you get some time, of course you do. But arguing this rule is now subjective, give me a break.

Do we really need every rule to have exact details? Are you really arguing over the definition of "prompt"???? Seriously?

ETA: Like I said I already told you how the process will occur.....you get prompted by the official to zip up your jersey. If you do not choose to then yes you will be DQ'd. It's not that hard is it? That's how I read the rule. You obviously read it differently. Fair enough.

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I think it will go down as you say the majority of the time. I am also certain that there will be some refs that just DQ people without a warning because they got up on the wrong side of bed. Just wait. And I think this is just one more negative rule that harms participation. If USAT tried to adopt this rule in South Florida, they could single handedly decimate casual participation. I would say the majority of men race shirtless in the summer here and the women are in sports bras. ITU officials would be shocked, shocked!! Eff 'em.

And when that oddity actually happens like that, then fair game to call out the rule. Until then, simply do as your told by an official when told to. End of story and you won't have an issue.

I think this is not even an issue, why because people aren't even going to know this is a rule, until they get called out for it during the race. Maybe they hear about it in the *mandatory* race meetings, but it still won't even register to them until they have an official saying "Hey Huff, zip up your zipper".

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does this rule apply equally to men AND women ?

It never ceases to amaze me how low the threshold for outrage has gotten in the internet age.

Same in Texas. Most local races you see a lot of shirtless guys. But this rule is just brand-specific to Ironman, not USAT. USAT gives the RD's a lot of discretion for how they run their races so I don't think you'll see this be an issue outside of Ironman. Personally it doesn't bother me for a brand to have regulations like this that are uniform, pardon the pun.

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Where is the outrage? This merely rises to the level of 'eye rolling' at bureaucratic nonsense.

So... the ref can be trusted to know where my sternum is? Precisely? Or will he execute a quick grope to get it right?

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I guess I was confused by the multiple exclamation points and the, "Eff 'em"

This rule is BS and that rationale is infuriating if true. So should women cover up their faces as well? Is IM attire supposed to be more modest than a public beach or swimming pool? I don't see any benefit at all. But I guess Wanda can do as they like.

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Just need to look at Kona and the number of people in photos that would get warnings. As for women here not sure how it applies as a sports bra covers sternum.

http://www.slowtwitch.com/...un_images__6070.html

I've found the loophole! I'm going to keep the zipper in place and pull it up to my sternum.

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Really... my first response to the "inappropriate" comment was an intellectual "wait.. what???" I'd love to hear Jimmy back that one up, as I can't believe this is the reason. It's a stupid rule at any rate when talking about a zippered suit. Completely topless is a little silly yes but OK, I'd give them that one (I wouldn't race topless anyway).

There's lots of time on the run at Cozumel the zipper was below the sternum. It's cooler that way.